Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> Previously these were automatically deleted by SmarterMail and we > never saw them. Now they're building up in the error directory. But that's completely at odds with the claim that _not_ quarantining them was resulting in spam leakage. So what's the real lowdown here? This should become

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Matt
Mark et al., SmarterMail shouldn't be leaving this trash around, and it shouldn't be passing this trash to Declude.  While having a work-around in Declude is nice in lieu of a fix from SmarterMail, this really should be fixed in SmarterMail if I am understanding the issues properly. Matt M

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Strother
Okay. I can confirm that all 20,000 messages have failed in the header file. My problem now seems to be that this directory is pretty large in size. A lot of these messages are larger than our maximum allowed size. I'm guessing that when SmarterMail receives an email larger than the maximum allowed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Mark, try this. Go to Windows Search function. Search files *.hdr Search text in files failed Search only the error directory. Once you run the search, select all, cut, past into a temp directory. You can now view the error directory to see if there is any file there that does not have fail

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> As long as someone is working on this. I have 20,000 messages in the > error directory from the past 48 hours. That's totally inappropriate. Degrade gracefully, people. At least make this a configurable option. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Strother
As long as someone is working on this. I have 20,000 messages in the error directory from the past 48 hours. Obviously there is no way we can sort through this volume of mail. Randomly looking at samples it appears as though every messages has the Failed text in the .hdr file. I can only hope that

[Declude.JunkMail] Quoted Printable Decoding problems

2006-07-11 Thread Scott Fisher
Will there every be improvements to the decoding of the message body? I'd really like to see quoted printable improvements.   Example:   email contains quoted-printable encode   declude=2e.com filter contains body 50 contains declude.com   filter does not fire.   I have to manually add body

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
Gary, >From time to time I feel like the Declude pinyada but in this instance we have provided a solution for what is happening in SM. And as I have said we are working with them to resolve this between us. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Gary Steiner
I don't have an answer to this question. I just know that it is a problem. But what I find amusing is, here is another instance of two vendors of interacting software products who point the finger at each other, both saying "it's the other guy's fault." Original Message >

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests

2006-07-11 Thread Nick Hayer
Hi Mike, Here is my understanding of the 2 tests: If an email originates from a country it will fail the COUNTRY test If an email passes through a country it will fail the COUNTRIES test -Nick Mike N wrote: I looked in the 4.x Junkmail manual, and couldn't find an authoritative definition o

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Although I do not use SmarterMail, my take is these are like T files in Imail where it is not a complete message, but for some reason SmarterMail is allowing Declude to have them even though they are not complete. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- >

RE: SPAM-WARN: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20

2006-07-11 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Also, doesn't 3.1 have a problem with writing headers under specific conditions (possibly identified in 4.2 as headers sometimes not written with copyfile)? See Declude ticket [30A-0C30A9AC-1BB6].   Michael ThomasMathbox978-683-67181-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
Yes there will be further 3.x fixes for a period of time. However we have encouraged customers to move to 4.x as that is where future development will be focused.   David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:36 PMTo: dec

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20

2006-07-11 Thread Scott Fisher
Will there be any more 3.x releases? - Original Message - From: David Barker To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20 No version

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Reimer
So 3.10 does not have a buffer overflow in BANEXT for EVA?   Mark Reimer IT Project Manager American CareSource 214-596-2464   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:07 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Kevin Bilbee
GotCha. I then like the move to the error folder. Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Barker > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:54 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Re

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
No version 3 is still 3.10 are you experiencing any of the same problems exhibited by 4 ? David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark ReimerSent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:01 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Has a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests

2006-07-11 Thread chris
David is quick - Original Message - From: "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests See if this helps: http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=6 and this may be of some use: http://support.d

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests

2006-07-11 Thread chris
See if this helps: http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=6 and this may be of some use: http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=42 -chris - Original Message - From: "Mike N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subj

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBSearch.aspx?search=COUNTRY&categoryid= 0 David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:57 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMai

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:57 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Country tests I looked in the 4.x Junkmail manual, and couldn't find an authoritative definition of

[Declude.JunkMail] Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as 4.2 build 20

2006-07-11 Thread Mark Reimer
David, Has a 3. version been released with the same fixes as in 4.2 build 20?     Mark Reimer IT Project Manager American CareSource 214-596-2464   ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "u

[Declude.JunkMail] Country tests

2006-07-11 Thread Mike N
I looked in the 4.x Junkmail manual, and couldn't find an authoritative definition of the Country tests. I have found a number of archived messages, but it is tricky to know if the reason that things are documented is that they are being deprecated or whatever. Is there a Kbase article or

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
That is exactly what was happening prior to the fix and it created a deluge of spam ending up in SmarterMail inboxes. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 3:49 PM To: declude.ju

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Kevin Bilbee
How about if the message has failed in the .hdr file declude just ignores the file to let SmarterMail process it as it see fit??? Kevin Bilbee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Barker > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:26 PM >

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread David Barker
Not sure who you spoke to at SmarterTools but I do NOT believe this is true. Declude will not pick up a message until it is completed writing both the .hdr and .eml files, that is the reason why SmarterMail while writing the header will have the .eml file as .em_ (while writing) so that when the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006

2006-07-11 Thread Gary Steiner
Here is SmarterTools take on the problem: > Failed is written to the .hdr if the message was not succesfully recieved via > SMTP. For > instance, if the connection is closed mid transmission. These(and > corresponding .emls) are > normally just deleted by SmarterMail. The only reason you are n

[Declude.JunkMail] COPYFILE / Not Inserting X-HEADERS

2006-07-11 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I am noticing the COPYFILE does not add everything to the headers. One of the things its missing is my custom XINHEADERS. Is this by design? As my expectation is that all of the XINHEADERS would be added as they really help reviewing messages. Lastest version of Declude 4.2.20/IMAIL and I

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest All_LIst.dat file

2006-07-11 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Thanks Nick/Chris(Declude). I got the new file. Darrell Nick Hayer writes: There is a much more recent avail you can download from 'my account' on the declude site. If you cannot find it let me know and I will send it to you. -Nick Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What is the lat

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest All_LIst.dat file

2006-07-11 Thread Nick Hayer
There is a much more recent avail you can download from 'my account' on the declude site. If you cannot find it let me know and I will send it to you. -Nick Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What is the latest all_list.dat file. Mine is dated 9/28/2005. I am seeing an issue with 67.111.13

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest All_LIst.dat file

2006-07-11 Thread Chris Asaro
Darrell, The latest version of that file is available on Declude's site. Once you log into your account, you will see it on the right hand side of the page, about half way down. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROT

[Declude.JunkMail] Latest All_LIst.dat file

2006-07-11 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What is the latest all_list.dat file. Mine is dated 9/28/2005. I am seeing an issue with 67.111.134.133 which is in Reston, VA. Howeverm Declude thinks its in Korea. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imai

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Move Files (Free Utility For Imail/Declude Users)

2006-07-11 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Comment's inline. Darrell John T (Lists) writes: Couple of questions: Does it run in an active session, such as the console, or does it run even if logged off? It runs in an active session. If you log off the program will be closed by windows. However, once started its interactive so