Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IIS Worm

2004-09-07 Thread Dan Patnode
get those automated programs that crawl IP's and test for hundreds of vulnerabilities, this tool rejects every last one of the attempts before it actually reaches IIS for processing under our configuration. Matt Dan Patnode wrote: IIS Worm  We’ve spent the morning battling a worm.  Here’s

[Declude.JunkMail] IIS Worm

2004-09-07 Thread Dan Patnode
Title: IIS Worm We’ve spent the morning battling a worm.  Here’s the news: Its designed to exploit a vulnerability in Microsoft IIS (we use it for delivery) that is so new it doesn’t yet have a name.  Its not yet in wide circulation, we just push so much mail we’ve seen it already.  MS doesn’t

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature request: COMBO tests

2004-05-20 Thread Dan Patnode
I for one am quite happy with the "workaround" for TESTSFAILED/END. I can't speak to which versions should support it, but with Matt's guidance and the permutation builder I posted here yesterday: http://www.subterrane.com/permgen.shtml I've found remarkable precision and dexterity. Just be sur

[Declude.JunkMail] Permutation Table Generator

2004-05-18 Thread Dan Patnode
For those building TESTSFAILED multi test combination configurations, here's a web site for constructing custom permutation lists with any designators you specify: http://www.subterrane.com/permgen.shtml Dan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --

Re: SPAM: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] countmein.com

2004-05-12 Thread Dan Patnode
------- > Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude and Imail. > > > Quoting Dan Patnode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The Institute of Biotechnology, University of Helsinki Finland just sent my >> abuse lin

[Declude.JunkMail] countmein.com

2004-05-12 Thread Dan Patnode
The Institute of Biotechnology, University of Helsinki Finland just sent my abuse line a report suggesting a new client of mine is a spammer. I'm not in the business of protecting these guys from each other. Has anyone heard of countmein.com as a spammer? Here's the report if you're curious

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Anything special for Imail 8.1?

2004-05-04 Thread Dan Patnode
To confirm, you're talking about Declude 1.79? > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 09:35:35 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Anything special for Imail 8.1? > > >>> There are no known issues with IMai

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Products Training

2004-05-04 Thread Dan Patnode
Samantha, You have 4 basic options: 1) Invest occasional time and run with the basic configuration. 2) Invest daily time, collaborating with the excellent help on this list, including Scott. 3) Outsource all or part of your configuration with a company like Mail Pure. 4) Outsource your entire

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Address Protection

2004-04-28 Thread Dan Patnode
Here's a clever web site for obfuscating addresses hosted on web sites: http://www.colmgallagher.com/encode_all.html Ironically, it uses the same "http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters

2004-03-29 Thread Dan Patnode
Nice. > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:10:52 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters > > >> Between the words are space like characters that aren't spaces. I can only >> view them usi

[Declude.JunkMail] Crazy Characters

2004-03-29 Thread Dan Patnode
Has anyone noticed these yet: Subject: Lower  your monthly  payment today ! Between the words are space like characters that aren't spaces. I can only view them using symbol or dingbat fonts and my email client can't even search for them in a folder of messages. I'm inclined to make a filter f

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail enhancement ideas

2004-03-16 Thread Dan Patnode
#4's a tricky one I've been watching for some time. Turns out its a generic server failure such that were a filter in place to look for it and you had a real server failure, every message would trip the filter. What's needed is a way to prevent the errors, which seems to be easier said than done.

[Declude.JunkMail] Zombies 101

2004-03-16 Thread Dan Patnode
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,8901975%5e15388%5e%5enbv%5e, 00.html Spam zombies on the rise Anick Jesdanun MARCH 08, 2004 NEXT time you're looking for a culprit for all that junk mail flooding your inbox, have a glance in the mirror. Spammers are increasingly exp

[Declude.JunkMail] Comcast Update

2004-03-10 Thread Dan Patnode
Seems they're actually aware of the problem: http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/03/10/comcast/index.php?redirect=10 78943859000 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Some good info on the Verislime coup

2003-09-19 Thread Dan Patnode
Interesting points, There's a name for industries where more than one supplier isn't practical: natural monopoly. I can't recall a single example where a natural monopoly improved after privatization. In economics terms, systems for maximizing profit (capitalism) don't work with systems where

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Internal Mail

2003-09-19 Thread Dan Patnode
Darryl, You can run Declude on its own server in front of clients' email servers, as a gateway. Only external email then gets scanned for spam. Dan On Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:01, Darryl Koster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The hosting business I run deals mainly with business and I

[Declude.JunkMail] Disposable Domains

2003-09-15 Thread Dan Patnode
Spammers put links in the body of messages and more recently are creating them by the pound, changing to new ones multiple times/days. Is it possible to have a test that checks the age of domain names in the body? This information is available from a number of places: http://www-whois.interni

Re: SPAM: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
Looking at my "spamples" I don't see any prefix letter: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?QnVzeSBhdCB3b3Jr?=? Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?RGlzY3JlZXQgT24gTGluZSBQaGFybWFjeSwgVmlhZ3Jh?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?b?RndkOiBUaA==?=e 24th o=?ISO-8859-1?b?ZiB0aGk=?=s month Subject: =?iso-8859-1?b?SG93IGRvZXMgU2lsZGVu

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
Follow-up, Used in a high weight soft test, 3 of Q subject tests FPd this morning. It seems that Japanese encoded messages like lots of mixed up letters. More testing... Dan On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 19:20, Dan Patnode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I did a scan of all unca

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit

2003-09-11 Thread Dan Patnode
box" >server and try to "offload" all outbound or relay functions to >the MS SMTP. > >Best Regards >Andy > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 0

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
s the SMTP >client and Webmin as the interface.  I don't though dispute >Sandy's faith in MS SMTP, and it can be run on the same box as >IMail. > > Matt > > > > > Dan Patnode wrote: > >FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France &

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
their own). We could then build profiles, adding all the different behaviors paricular spams share, regardless of which tests define those behaviors. I would love, for example, to combine an IPFILE listing US broadband IPs with NONENGLISH. Dan On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 16:57, D

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange Subject

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
FYI, I pulled this test 3 weeks ago after a email from France came through (or rather didn't) with this subject: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?RW5qb3kgc3VtbWVyIHVudGlsIGl0cyB2ZXJ5IGVuZCE=?= There's definitely is a correlation here among spammers, ?B? encoded subjects, disposable domain names, and not

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
Any opinions on Exim?: http://www.exim.org/ Dan On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 15:36, Matthew Bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dan Patnode wrote: > >>Should have been more specific, I'm looking for something used >by larger ISPs that gives me the confidenc

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:34 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit > > >I'm running Declude as a gateway for various IPs and just hit a limit. >Under &g

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
e an L was replaced with an I and it showed up in attachment PDF code. Dan On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 13:36, Matthew Bramble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dan Patnode wrote: > >>Good point, >> >>The goal then should be to differentiate numbers used as codes

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test request

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
Good point, The goal then should be to differentiate numbers used as codes from numbers used to confuse. The former tend to be contiguous while the later (in my experience), tend to be mixed in with letters. Perhaps if the test counted numbers with letters on both sides? Dan On Wednesday,

[Declude.JunkMail] SMTP Relay Limit

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Patnode
I'm running Declude as a gateway for various IPs and just hit a limit. Under Addresses specified here are to be considered local addresses for mail gatewaying Adding entries to Access Control under SMTP, the 100th entry produces an error: Maximum table size reached So now, no more

[Declude.JunkMail] Name/Whois Server Test?

2003-08-30 Thread Dan Patnode
I keep seeing generic word payload domains that have generic words followed by short codes: manual3a.com infowebdd4.com saless1d.com seaccc1.com saleon1.com greatdf45.com greatinfo33f.com greatbizss3.com biz34er5.com clearsale12.com bigsalesxz.com The interesting part, is that their Internic.ne

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: Attention mail server administrators

2003-08-29 Thread Dan Patnode
It won't help with Lawyers and the like who need a server stamp and the users will need to go between work and home, but there is a way to make life easy: Make up a sub domain, something like cox.mydomain.com for each blocking ISP. On the LAN (private IP), point cox.mydomain.com at the private

[Declude.JunkMail] Spoofed Subjects

2003-08-28 Thread Dan Patnode
Heads up to anyone using "undeliverable" subjects for whitelisting, pharmacysale.biz is trying to sneak around, some more subtle than others: Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Subject: Undeliverable: Online Pharmacy - Lowest Prices - Prozac and More! Subject: Delivery Status N

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OSRELAY question.

2003-08-28 Thread Dan Patnode
There was a report in the last few days about relays.osirusoft.com going sour in some way. I didn't pay much attention until I had a dozen OSRELAY false positives staring me in the face. I've turned off all relays.osirusoft.com based tests (I used two) Dan On Tuesday, August 26, 2003 17:14,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs

2003-08-26 Thread Dan Patnode
banned extension >Declude Virus vulnerabilities >Declude JM >Imail Rules >Delivery > >John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA >Engineer/Consultant >eServices For You >www.eservicesforyou.com > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs

2003-08-25 Thread Dan Patnode
ed >extensions before it goes to the virus scanner in order to save >processing power? > > Matt > > Dan Patnode wrote: > >Matt, by this: > > > >This does tie back into processor utilization though, because >before the definitions were available, the banned ext

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs

2003-08-25 Thread Dan Patnode
cott, > > I know this is the wrong discussion group, but since we're on >the topic, would it make more sense to test for banned >extensions before it goes to the virus scanner in order to save >processing power? > > Matt > > Dan Patnode wrote: > > >Matt, by this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs

2003-08-23 Thread Dan Patnode
Thanks for all the great feedback. I'm still drowning in 50,000+ SoBig message/day but at least I now have them balanced over both 5gig servers instead of just one. What kills me is that the vast majority are headed for a single customers info@ address. Matt, by this: > This does tie back i

[Declude.JunkMail] Multi Server Configs

2003-08-21 Thread Dan Patnode
I'm running twin dual Xeon 2.4s and was nearly wiped out today by all the extra virus/worm activity. Its midnight and I'm still clearing out the overflow, to the tune of 2 dozen Declude processes. Rather than running them in parallel as we had before (setting them up with the same MX weight),

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude stats

2003-08-01 Thread Dan Patnode
If you're describing % of false positives/negatives, it can't be done automatically. Any system smart enough to tell what should have from what shouldn't have to calculate the difference would simply do as it should and be 100% accurate. I get my numbers by taking the total messages and dividin

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist own IP or domain

2003-08-01 Thread Dan Patnode
Some-much of this local/remote distiction can be resolved by running Declude infront of/seperate from your actual email server. The negative is that it kills auto whitlising. Dan On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:01, Karen D. Oland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I agree. We have the same problem he

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Why the challenge/response measure wont work

2003-08-01 Thread Dan Patnode
Looks like they expired the link, only the domain reveals what you saw: http://tfexp.com/ I have a perspective client considering challenge/response, another good reason not to. Dan On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:58, Omar K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I fell for it, so im assuming that joe bl

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] enhancement request: WORDFILTER URL keyword

2003-07-25 Thread Dan Patnode
I believe the hmtl decoding already takes care of the second example. As for the first, I've had great success targeting spoofing directly: BODY0 CONTAINShttp://7&# BODY0 CONTAINShttp://8&# BODY0 CONTAINShttp://9&# BODY0 CONTAINS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Patnode
Can't wait for this one! On Friday, July 18, 2003 11:10, R. Scott Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I have been looking at this trend and perhaps having another tool in our >>arsenal could help. >> >>Can there be a header or a variable we can assign weight to for DNS? >> >>A lot of spam house

[Declude.JunkMail] Musical MX Records

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Patnode
I run a gateway configuration with clients changing their entire MX record to my servers, which in turn point back to the client's server. In this way, clients don't need to change anything else on their end and everyone is happy. The original email server stays wide open and no one is the wis

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] XOUTHEADER shows up in the body

2003-07-16 Thread Dan Patnode
Reminds me of my weeks with Declude (over a year now). Turned out the format of my comments wasn't right, it was being rejected as header content, dropping into the body. As I recall, not all mail clients responded the same way - MS clients showing the problem. I never went beyond making ea

[Declude.JunkMail] Attack of the Hypens

2003-07-12 Thread Dan Patnode
After killing off the .biz domains, there seems to be a surge in hyphenated domains, with generic, systems or typical words. Anyone else seeing this?: COLO-JAN.NET linux-pros.net great-steals.com simply-4u.com media-permit.com bargain-bin.com e-member-services.com pret-ty.com on-thenet.net dns-

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] False Positives

2003-07-11 Thread Dan Patnode
When I checked last month I was doing about 1 in 20,000 (.005%), but this takes some fairly sophisticated tuning. Dan On Friday, July 11, 2003 9:18, Douglas Brantley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > New to list... > > We are considering purchasing Declude Junkmail. > > I am con

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Spam News

2003-07-09 Thread Dan Patnode
Thought these might be of interest: New site spoofs PayPal to get billing information http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/07/09/paypal/ Congress fights over spam opt-in rules http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/07/09/spam/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declu

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] REDIRECT configuration

2003-07-09 Thread Dan Patnode
The asumption is that multiple folders are needed, you are running multiple domains through the same gateway. I've been using REDIRECT for over a year and there are advantages to customization, being able to REDIRECt with some and SUBJECT with others, or different versions of each. Additiona

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bizarre DJM Pro Situation

2003-07-09 Thread Dan Patnode
.tpcper is Topica. They come out with new spamming domains continuously while keeping their IPs fixed. Blocking their IPs however, also blocks all the newsletters they publish. I've been testing their removal system for the last 2 months, if you enter the recipients email address here with th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Increased Spam?

2003-07-08 Thread Dan Patnode
I've seen as much as a doubling over the last 3 months but nothing in particular over the last week. Is your total/total up, or just the stuff getting through? Dan On Monday, July 7, 2003 9:48, Koree A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Was just curious if anyone else is seeing the HUGE increa

[Declude.JunkMail] Postage

2003-07-08 Thread Dan Patnode
Anyone else get this?: == Dear Sir/Madam I would like to inquire if you would be interested in incorporating email postage support to your product. It will allow your customers to enforce payment for emails that are not on their white list, or have a certain level of spam

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] open relay tester

2003-07-06 Thread Dan Patnode
So how good are these tests? I've been tracking spam from mail.fea.net for the last few days (over 40 in the last 12 hours alone), all seem to be relayed and fea.net seems to be a friendly neighborhood ISP. They don't show up in any DBs, so I had to block their IP. Dan On Sunday, July 6, 20

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] re: Strange logging

2003-07-04 Thread Dan Patnode
I don't know about log analyzers, but there's a way around message interlacing for manual log review. BBEdit shows search results in a new window, so I search for the messages code (like D06f811ed0094f08e) and every line with the code is isolated and displayed in a sigle concise package. I don

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] time-dependently hold weight

2003-06-29 Thread Dan Patnode
Wow, I can't believe you guys, this stuff is amazing. Now to figure out what grep is so I can use it! Would something written in php be as strong/fast? Dan On Saturday, June 28, 2003 20:09, Bill Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Okay, here is a small contribution to the list. Markus, this >

[Declude.JunkMail] Resolution

2003-06-29 Thread Dan Patnode
A general tip: If you find yourself wanting to split a weight amount, say 5 is to low and 6 is to high, you can't use 5.5, but you can increase the resolution. Take every weight in your entire configuration (EVERY weight at once, including all action files) and multiply them by the same numbe

[Declude.JunkMail] International SpamDomains

2003-06-28 Thread Dan Patnode
I have an uncaught spam with an interesting profile: HELO: x-stream.co.za RDNS: m48.net81-66-160.noos.fr FROM: arcticstock.no I'm wondering about a SpamDomains config that looks for mismatches in domains other than com/net/org. It would go beyond individual domains and nail whole countries at

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Getting Ready to Activate SPAMDOMAINS

2003-06-28 Thread Dan Patnode
Strategy: 1) Create a list (or start with Bill's excellent list) with a small weight, say half of what you use for open relay databases. 2) Increase the weight gradually until you start getting FPs, then back it down a bit 3) Create a second list/test, I call "SpamierDomains". When an uncaught

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-28 Thread Dan Patnode
M. > >Todd Holt >Xidix Technologies, Inc >Las Vegas, NV USA >www.xidix.com > > >> -Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode >> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:37 PM >> To: [EMA

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] time-dependently hold weight

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Patnode
Its been a horrible week, but I need the distraction... I've considered this a few times, every time I prepare to suggest it I remember what happened with my idea to test for long subjects, there just isn't enough uniformity. My concern isn't so much uniformity of technical things like tracking

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Patnode
Yahoo's and perhaps others, are blocking many of the confirmation e-mails consumers are supposed to receive to complete their online registration. On Friday, June 27, 2003 12:49, Dan Patnode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Stops the telemarketers (with some exceptions), debuted this >

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Patnode
Stops the telemarketers (with some exceptions), debuted this morning: http://donotcall.gov/ More junk stopping info: http://www.obviously.com/junkmail/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing l

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Political Spam

2003-06-26 Thread Dan Patnode
I preface this by saying that my techniques are based on studying and understanding spammers and the way they behave. More Sun Ztu than Zen: I've been noticing an increasing number of politically oriented spam, starting after the war with Iraq. The most wanted playing card spam turned into get

[Declude.JunkMail] .biz (followup)

2003-06-20 Thread Dan Patnode
Here's Kami's and one weeks worth of catches, all are BODY CONTAINS. I test/confirm all hard tests, so the second group has not yet been proven: athomerx.biz awesomeviagraprices.biz ayoungeryou.biz bestdealsonline.biz bizminder.biz cantlose-here.biz cheaptrips.biz desires4sex.biz discountbuyers

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Fraud Alert

2003-06-19 Thread Dan Patnode
I eventually got 4 copies from 3 IPs, 24.x.x.x plus: 68.82.235.252 81.202.170.237 No relaying. Interestingly, 3 of them got caught. Dan On Wednesday, June 18, 2003 23:24, J Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ask and ye shall receive... whether you want it or not.. ) > >~Header~ >Rece

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Fraud Alert

2003-06-18 Thread Dan Patnode
Watch out for this one, the underlying code looks like: href="http://www.your-instant-credit-reporter.org/fraud.html";>BestBuy.com/fraud_department.html The subject reads: BestBuy Order #1095619. Fraud Alert. The message reads: Dear customer,    Recently we have received an order made by usi

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Numeral SP00FING

2003-06-18 Thread Dan Patnode
I also considered something universal like every combination of letters next to numbers, but there are to many legit messages with codes, even if limited to the subject. It would work if the test were smart enough to measure the ratio of letters to numbers. Good luck with that. Dan On Wedn

[Declude.JunkMail] Numeral SP00FING

2003-06-18 Thread Dan Patnode
My .biz seach continues (more later), but I'm now interested in subject tests for words with numbers substituting for letters. A prime example: ST0P Paying T00 MUCH for 1NSURANCE Easy to stop, but its silly to make tests for every word in the dictionary. Anyone have some already assembled? D

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Tar Pitting

2003-06-18 Thread Dan Patnode
this not have the >same affect as tar pitting spammers? Especially since the pro spammers send >the same spam run through many different servers. > >Just thinking outloud. > >Rick Davidson >Buckeye Internet Inc >www.buckeyeweb.com >440-953-1900 ext: 222 > >- Origi

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Tar Pitting

2003-06-18 Thread Dan Patnode
Interesting Scott, I'm not sure I want to do "true" tarpitting, I want the spam to get through eventually (just in case its not), just way after the legitimate stuff. I use Netscreen firewalls and their technical info says throttling to less than 10kbps risks dropping the connection. The idea

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Tar Pitting

2003-06-18 Thread Dan Patnode
I'm intrigued by this idea. During a given minute of time I may get 1000 messages. 1/4 of them are slown down (occupying more SMTP/Declude sessions), but the burdon is spread out. Can this be applied to increase server capacity? If I throttle, at the firewall, the IPs of spammers, will the l

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to stop this...

2003-06-17 Thread Dan Patnode
Perhaps a test, that when there are 2 IPs, sees if they match? Dan On Monday, June 16, 2003 12:57, Bill B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You can set up a filter to add a weight for that IP >speciffically: > >HELO 10 CONTAINS 216.220.106.24 > >Or you could set up a filter to add a weight to any

Re: SPAM: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] .biz Super List

2003-06-15 Thread Dan Patnode
://ftp.XYZ/IMail > >Replace XYZ with the domain of my email address. > >Regards, >Kami > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode >Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 6:18 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:

[Declude.JunkMail] .biz Super List

2003-06-15 Thread Dan Patnode
.biz is getting worse with time. By in large, these are sent from general purpose (dialup and broadband) US based accounts, referencing Asian IPs. To counter this, I've begun harvesting .biz domains from the bodies of captured spam - for use in hard tests. My first day's catch: BODY0

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Held Spam Management

2003-06-12 Thread Dan Patnode
One other option is not to hold the mail at all. I use these in my action files ROUTETO[EMAIL PROTECTED] Where caught messages are delivered to accounts, one for each domain. There's less control and this may not work if the those getting the spam aren't checking it. Dan On Thursday, J

[Declude.JunkMail] SpamDomains FP

2003-06-12 Thread Dan Patnode
This one came out of no where: Msg failed SpamDomains (Spamdomain '@mail.com' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid .). Dan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsu

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RFC-IGNORANT Test

2003-06-10 Thread Dan Patnode
Kami, Would this be different tests from whats seen by http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/, or just an all inclusive version? Dan On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:31, Kami Razvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Scott: > >Have you ever considered adding a test that simply detects rfc-ignorant >setup? > >This

[Declude.JunkMail] DECODE OFF

2003-06-10 Thread Dan Patnode
I finally have enough clients to have a load on my overflow server. Turning DECODE on and off, OFF cuts the length of the big CPU load plateaus by a half. The little plateaus are reduced back to spikes. Is anyone else trying and seeing this? I'm running 1.70 (no i). Dan --- [This E-mail was

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamIPs Test Idea

2003-06-08 Thread Dan Patnode
>..rr.com .rr.net > >would required a REVDNS that contains ".rr.com", to use a >HELO string containing either ".rr.com" or ".rr.net". Or >perhaps the other way around. > >Bill > > >-Original Message- >From: Dan Patnode &g

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamIPs Test Idea

2003-06-08 Thread Dan Patnode
Thanks for the question Bill, Looking back at my original posting, I showed RNDS, then said "all the domains those IPs use". The intent is to ignore MAILFROM (which Spam Domains already checks) and compare only IP with RDNS. Scott, Would that still be effective? Dan On Sunday, June 8, 2

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamIPs Test Idea

2003-06-08 Thread Dan Patnode
Bill, Thats a good thing to keep in mind, however it wouldn't compare IP to MAILFROM, it would compare only IP to RDNS. It would only check for forged RNDS, not carring if you use @webmail.us. Here's an example from Road Runner: 24.88.0.13ae88-0-013.sc.rr.com Someone on this IP sending

[Declude.JunkMail] SpamIPs Test Idea

2003-06-07 Thread Dan Patnode
Scott, Another idea for a new test, a close cousin to the SpamDomains test: >Received: from styggen.com [24.208.153.243] by mx2.spamsoap.com >(SMTPD32-7.15) id A288E80090; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:42:32 -0700 This message came from a road runner IP. How about a test where we build a list of CIDRs f

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
work just fine. > >Bill >- Original Message - >From: "Dan Patnode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:33 PM >Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list > > >So then these also won

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
So then these also won't work: @2die4.com outblaze.com @accountant.com outblaze.com @adexec.com outblaze.com @africamail.com outblaze.com @allergist.com outblaze.com @alumnidirector.com outblaze.com @archaeologist.com outblaze.com @arcticmail.com outblaze.com @artlover.com out

[Declude.JunkMail] .biz

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
I take back what I said, I do have a low weighted test for .biz based links: BODY0 CONTAINS.biz/ Dan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamdomains list

2003-06-06 Thread Dan Patnode
Markus, I've been giving the subject of @'s in spamdomain tests some thought. With the original one column test, there was no way an @ was going to be in the RDNS so using it meant automatic failure. With the new two column format, this should now work: @tin.itTin.it @tin.itTuttopmi.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
Thats interesting, I upgraded both of the problem servers to 1.70 two days (about 36 hours) before this hit. I'm going to see if I can switch back to 1.69iX to see if there is a difference. Dan On Wednesday, June 4, 2003 14:50, Frederick Samarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have noticed th

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Stats on .biz, .us?

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
I played with a content body test for .biz/ and had FPs in no time. You can play with a low weight test with these, but their use will only increase with time. I treat them the same as .net/.org/.com, one [painfully slow] iteration at a time. Dan On Wednesday, June 4, 2003 6:19, Kami Razvan

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
Scott, The servers in question are not [yet] running Declude Virus so what happened should be a purely Declude JunkMail question. With as lean as Declude is, looks like the only way to test this is in the moment. During yesterdays "moment", it was tuff to sit by turning off one test at a time

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-05 Thread Dan Patnode
t; >I am interested to see if this helps you if you try it. > >Regards, >Kami > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode >Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:36 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Declude.JunkMai

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Processes & Server Load

2003-06-04 Thread Dan Patnode
We added about 350 users to our 2000+ user dual server configuration in the last week and were doing pretty well until this afternoon. Suddenly the CPU load graph stopped looking like its normal Donky Kong video game simulation (up and down) and more resembled a 100% highway with a few dips. D

[Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains

2003-05-30 Thread Dan Patnode
I generally avoid sounding like a cheer leader, but this test is sweet! (inside a weighting system) The structure of the text file is a simple list of domains, like: Ameritech.net Amrer.net Angelfire.com Aol.com When a domain FPs on a predictable variation, just tab over and put in the domai

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist & blacklist problem

2003-05-28 Thread Dan Patnode
Tommi, There seems to be a feature for this built into Imail, but as usual, tests outside of Declude aren't really useful. I got into trouble last week when the default setting bounced a non spam. Dan On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:50, Tommi Penttinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 08:54 26.05.

[Declude.JunkMail] Obfuscated Addresses

2003-04-05 Thread Dan Patnode
For those you who track obfuscation techniques: Besides http://% be sure to add a test for http://w%77w. it case the actual address starts with http://www. Dan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Q: help with fixing client-side?

2003-03-21 Thread Dan Patnode
I have some insight on the date issue. Macs tell time by counting the amount of time since a date in 1903 (something to do with the Wright Brothers), used as time zero. It makes them automatically y2k savvy, but it also means that when a particular machine's been around long enough for the c

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Comments Test

2003-03-20 Thread Dan Patnode
I've seen a newsletter with 27 comments (motely fool), but there seems to be a sweet spot between 10 and 20. Just make sure you use it as a weighted test. I'm expecting the rationale & configuration that works with html counting to also work with the new subject count tests, for similar reasons

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spaced Out

2003-03-20 Thread Dan Patnode
wrote: >Dan, what is the "mailfromSTRICT" test? > >Bill >- Original Message - >From: "Dan Patnode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:31 PM >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spaced Out

Re: * [Declude.JunkMail] Declude JunkMail v1.68 (beta) released

2003-03-20 Thread Dan Patnode
Kami, I requested this. I see many spam and more importantly, spam thats not getting caught by other tests, with exceptionally long subject names, often with ten words or more. This idea is, of course, completely untried/untested, but my hopes are high. Dan On Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:23,

[Declude.JunkMail] Spaced Out

2003-03-20 Thread Dan Patnode
A new spammer technique, though he still managed to fail: mailfromSTRICT MAILFROM HELOBOGUS SouthAmerica Asia SPAMHEADERS :) U N I V E R S I T Y D I P L O M A S O b t a i n a p r o s p e r o u s f u t u r e , m o n e y e a r n i n g p o w e r , a n d t h e a d m i r a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Good ISP?

2003-03-11 Thread Dan Patnode
Should have figured there were ISPs on this list. Let me get more specific on needs ((please reply off list. Non ISPs, let me know if you want to see the results)): We have our own servers and do hosting for ourselves and several hundred other businesses and people. We need about 5U of spac

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