Re: Continuation invalidation strategy

2005-05-12 Thread Torsten Curdt
But seriously: I tried to explain why you cannot remove the parent continuation :-) some experiments showed me that it is possible to remove parent continuations in flowscript. Hm... if the flowscript implementation only stores modifications this should not be possible :-/ One

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 11 mai 05, à 21:10, Sebastien Arbogast a écrit : ...So WDYT ? Stefano ? Bertrand ? Sylvain ? Upayavira ? Helma ? Others I forgot ? ... My position has not changed: I think our documentation tools are adequate today (I didn't say perfect), see [1]. But if people don't contribute

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
...I've been thinking about ways we can keep documentation current: * It strikes me that folksonomy offers developer communities some help here. If documentation can be continuously re-tagged then it's usefulness will evolve... This is maybe the one tool that we're missing: a way to add

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 mai 05, à 06:33, Sebastien Arbogast a écrit : ...FYI we have already come up with 13 very interesting ideas about a potention new common documentation effort for Cocoon.. Would you guys be able to at least try writing/reorganizing some docs in the current system [1] before inventing

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 12 mai 05, à 06:33, Sebastien Arbogast a écrit : ...FYI we have already come up with 13 very interesting ideas about a potention new common documentation effort for Cocoon.. Would you guys be able to at least try writing/reorganizing some docs in the current system

Re: First draft questionnaire

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
You gonna do this with a Yahoo poll? Seems like a lot of work to manually tabulate this. But I'd be interested in the results. Ralph Mark Leicester wrote: Hi everyone, Here is a first draft of a questionnaire that I intend to distribute on the Cocoon Users' and Developers' mailing lists

Re: code formatting issue

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
Leszek Gawron wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: is there a common line width to be kept? 78 characters in one line is hell of a readability problem and a little bit archaic. WDYT? +1, I use 150 :-) me too :) eclipse creates a total mess when formatting the code with 78

Re: code formatting issue

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Ralph Goers wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: is there a common line width to be kept? 78 characters in one line is hell of a readability problem and a little bit archaic. WDYT? +1, I use 150 :-) me too :) eclipse creates a total mess when formatting the

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Sebastien Arbogast
But if people don't contribute content/reviews/reorganization, nothing happens. More tools with no one to use them won't bring anything, in the end someone has to do the work and this is not happening ATM. But if people don't contribute content/reviews/reorganization I see two conclusions to

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Nathaniel Alfred wrote: -Original Message- From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2005 18:04 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon Joerg Heinicke wrote: Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes:

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
It suddenly dawned on me that the code below is synchronizing on the session, not a local object. Duh! Still, this seems like a very, very bad idea to me, as I'm not sure how that would impact the servlet container. public Session getSession(boolean create) { // we must assure a 1:1-mapping

Re: [RT] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: In the current #{$cocoon/request/request/protocol} thread we (again) discuss problems with the environment access in JXTG. The problems comes from that we have copied part of the servlet api in our environment abstraction and that it contains methods of the type Object

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
I ran through this thread and made some observations: 1. There can only be one Cocoon Session per HttpSession. Creation of this must be thread safe. 2. The code propsed will not work: public Session getSession(boolean create) { // we must assure a 1:1-mapping of server session to cocoon

Re: CForms view model? (was Re: Externalizing JXTG tag configuration)

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: and why producing SAX events is a mixing of concerns? It would not nececarilly be a mix of concern, but in CForms it IMO is because the Widget mainly is about content in the form of Java data structures, but it also make

Form macros used without flowscript

2005-05-12 Thread Reinhard Poetz
I have the need for using form macros but my application doesn't use flowscript as controller. AFAICS line 11: jx:set var=form value=${CocoonFormsInstance}/ makes it impossible to access the form object as my controller (an action) doesn't set the variable CocoonFormsInstance. Is there any way

Re: Form macros used without flowscript

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Reinhard Poetz wrote: I have the need for using form macros but my application doesn't use flowscript as controller. AFAICS line 11: jx:set var=form value=${CocoonFormsInstance}/ makes it impossible to access the form object as my controller (an action) doesn't set the variable

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Ralph Goers Ralph.Goers at dslextreme.com writes: serverSession is a local variable. Synchronizing it accomplishes nothing since every caller gets their own copy. Sytnchronizing on a member of the HttpRequest object also accomplishes nothing. Huh? Why shall synchronization not work? It is

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: This approach has the problem of entering a synchronized block each time getSession is called. Although this may not that be much a problem in this particular case because it's unlikely that many parallel requests exist for a single request, we

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: Or more simply we could store the wrapper in the session itself using an attribute. That way it would be guaranteed to be created only once. Yes, that's another possibility I also had in mind. But on the one hand this smells a bit

RE: [CForms] having more control over showing/processing a form

2005-05-12 Thread Bart Molenkamp
Does it answer your need? Yes it does, thank you! Sylvain -- Sylvain WallezAnyware Technologies http://apache.org/~sylvainhttp://anyware-tech.com Apache Software Foundation Member Research Technology Director Bart.

Re: Hackathon at ApacheCon EU 2005? (was Re: [CANCELLED] Hackthon London 30 April/1st May 2005)

2005-05-12 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
I'd come earlier if we start earlier. :-) (after all it is just a two hours drive from here). Speaking of a location: The KDE people were at the Filmakademie Ludwigsburg (http://www.filmakademie.de/) for their last KDE summit (which is quite close to Stuttgart). They even got some support from

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33637] - i18n messages don't work for required fields

2005-05-12 Thread bugzilla
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Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: Or more simply we could store the wrapper in the session itself using an attribute. That way it would be guaranteed to be created only once. Yes, that's another possibility I also had in mind. But on the one

RE: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
-Original Message- From: Sebastien Arbogast [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2005 23:16 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Community health Personally I think of mailing lists as really old-fashioned ways of communicate, all the more so as they are more and more often

Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a streamer object to JXTemplate - assign this object to a variable - call the toSAX method and pass the content

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a streamer object to JXTemplate - assign this object to a variable - call the toSAX method and

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a streamer object to JXTemplate - assign this object to a variable -

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a streamer object to JXTemplate - assign this

Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
As explained in a private mail to Sebastien, I've taken up the http://www.cocoondev.org/handbook site that Steven graciously set up for me. I intend to work on the mid-level tutorial that was the initial goal for the Cocoon In Action project. Doing it in Daisy is much easier for me, since it

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Leszek Gawron wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: If you want to make it even simpler we could either have another instruction that parses strings to SAX, or have some attribute on jx:out for parsing the argument. jx:out value=${str} xmlize=true/ ? Almost one liner.. some users

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Leszek Gawron wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a streamer object to

Re: Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Linden H van der (MI) wrote: As explained in a private mail to Sebastien, I've taken up the http://www.cocoondev.org/handbook site that Steven graciously set up for me. I intend to work on the mid-level tutorial that was the initial goal for the Cocoon In Action project. Doing it in Daisy is much

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: Can it be that difficult to stream a string as SAX events in JXTemplate, or did I overlook a simpler solution? - implement your own streamer object with a toSAX method - pass a

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: If you want to make it even simpler we could either have another instruction that parses strings to SAX, or have some attribute on jx:out for parsing the argument. jx:out value=${str} xmlize=true/ ? Almost

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Agree, but we should implement them first ;) one question only: what do we do with jx:out value=roottagbroken/mispelledtag/root parse=xml/ 1. generate SAX events - if value is invalid this breaks the whole view 2. parse to DOM, catch exceptions, use @lenient to throw or

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Sylvain Wallez wrote: or even better: jx:out value=${str} xmlize=true strip-root=true/ Ahem... back to another hot thread: would be good to update the docs to mention these two little attributes I wasn't aware of and can be s useful. I think they haven't been implemented yet, at least if I

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Ugo Cei
Il giorno 12/mag/05, alle 14:08, Leszek Gawron ha scritto: what do we do with jx:out value=roottagbroken/mispelledtag/root parse=xml/ 1. generate SAX events - if value is invalid this breaks the whole view 2. parse to DOM, catch exceptions, use @lenient to throw or silently omit. Either 1 or give

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 12/mag/05, alle 14:08, Leszek Gawron ha scritto: what do we do with jx:out value=roottagbroken/mispelledtag/root parse=xml/ 1. generate SAX events - if value is invalid this breaks the whole view 2. parse to DOM, catch exceptions, use @lenient to throw or silently omit.

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 12/mag/05, alle 14:08, Leszek Gawron ha scritto: what do we do with jx:out value=roottagbroken/mispelledtag/root parse=xml/ 1. generate SAX events - if value is invalid this breaks the whole view 2. parse to DOM, catch exceptions, use @lenient to throw or silently omit.

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Sylvain Wallez sylvain at apache.org writes: This solution looks really cool and elegant. Unfortunately HttpSessionActivationListener is Servlet Spec 2.3. In Cocoon 2.1. we are still on 2.2 and I guess (and suggest) we will stay with that. So only the WeakHashMap solution remains. 2.2,

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Leszek Gawron wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: or even better: jx:out value=${str} xmlize=true strip-root=true/ xinclude has parse attribute: jx:out value=${str} parse=xml/ where parse is either text or xml. what about @strip-root attribute? Is there an equivalent? No :-)

RE: Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
As explained in a private mail to Sebastien, I've taken up the http://www.cocoondev.org/handbook site that Steven graciously set up for me. I intend to work on the mid-level tutorial that was the initial goal for the Cocoon In Action project. Doing it in Daisy is much easier for me, since

Re: Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Steven Noels
On 12 May 2005, at 14:01, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Linden H van der (MI) wrote: As explained in a private mail to Sebastien, I've taken up the http://www.cocoondev.org/handbook site that Steven graciously set up for me. I intend to work on the mid-level tutorial that was the initial goal for the

Re: Streaming strings in JXTemplate

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Leszek Gawron wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Ahem... back to another hot thread: would be good to update the docs to mention these two little attributes I wasn't aware of and can be s useful. not implemented yet :)) I will commit that ASAP. Oooops, sorry!! I though it was already there!!!

Re: Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler
Linden H van der (MI) wrote: As explained in a private mail to Sebastien, I've taken up the http://www.cocoondev.org/handbook site that Steven graciously set up for me. I intend to work on the mid-level tutorial that was the initial goal for the Cocoon In Action project. Doing it in Daisy is much

RE: Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joerg Heinicke Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2005 11:16 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon I have an implementation with map in HttpRequest and without double-checked

RE: [CForms] having more control over showing/processing a form

2005-05-12 Thread Bart Molenkamp
Well, I still have a little problem. Your solution works fine, as long as I add submit widgets to the form definition. This works fine for many case for me, but I still have a case where this isn't a solution. I have a form, and on that form there are two date fields, and an update action. Every

Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Mark Leicester
Hi Bertrand, I for one have been looking at the wiki regularly, making little tweaks here and there: nothing major, but it's a regular haunt of mine. You can verify this at: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/RecentChanges (Sébastien seems to have contributed a fair bit recently too!) Back when

Re: CForms view model? (was Re: Externalizing JXTG tag configuration)

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: snip/ Can you elaborate? What should be the view model The view model should IMO be a (minimal) read only subset of o.a.c.forms.formmodel.Widget and ContainerWidget, preferably POJO friendly. From such a view point the widget hierarchy is a simple

Re: [RT] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: As Vadim pointed out in an earlier discussion this is done in Java faces: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/api/javax/faces/context/ExternalContext.html So what I propose is that we extend o.a.c.environment.Request with: Map

Re: Feedback on SpreadCocoon, and a suggestion for CocoonGT.org

2005-05-12 Thread Steven Noels
On 10 May 2005, at 19:20, Mark Leicester wrote: Steven, it occurs to me that Drupal may be well suited to the CocoonGT site. Drupal offers ecommerce modules (Worldpay, Paypal, invoicing etc.) and plenty of people have used Drupal for exactly this kind of purpose (see

Re: [RT] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: In the current #{$cocoon/request/request/protocol} thread we (again) discuss problems with the environment access in JXTG. The problems comes from that we have copied part of the servlet api in our environment abstraction and that it contains

Re: CForms view model? (was Re: Externalizing JXTG tag configuration)

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: snip/ Depending on how it's done, it can be a good thing. IMHO, public XMLizable getLabel(); seems like a right approach to me; and templating language should be more than happy to work with XMLizable objects, so to render a label you don't need

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Mark Leicester wrote: Hi Bertrand, I for one have been looking at the wiki regularly, making little tweaks here and there: nothing major, but it's a regular haunt of mine. You can verify this at: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/RecentChanges (Sébastien seems to have contributed a fair bit

RE: Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Linden H van der (MI)
Great! Thanks for the offer, but let's wait until there is more than one or two pages of information. Bye, Helma -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 May, 2005 14:48 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Cocoon documentation (was: RE:

Re: [RT] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: In the current #{$cocoon/request/request/protocol} thread we (again) discuss problems with the environment access in JXTG. The problems comes from that we have copied part of the servlet api in our environment abstraction

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Tony Collen
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: Can it be shown that this downward trend is not a result of improving documentation? Or maybe it's because the documentation is still so messy (I'm sure it's going to change with the new effort but it's still the case) that more and more people try Cocoon, don't

Re: CForms view model? (was Re: Externalizing JXTG tag configuration)

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: snip/ Depending on how it's done, it can be a good thing. IMHO, public XMLizable getLabel(); seems like a right approach to me; and templating language should be more than happy to work with XMLizable objects, so to render a

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Steven Noels
On 12 May 2005, at 15:56, Sylvain Wallez wrote: - inline WYSIWYS (what you see is what you structure, i.e. htmlarea or something similar, but no wiki or XML syntax) Check. - version management, so that validated content can be published on cocoon.apache.org while newer versions are being written

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Upayavira
Steven Noels wrote: On 12 May 2005, at 15:56, Sylvain Wallez wrote: - inline WYSIWYS (what you see is what you structure, i.e. htmlarea or something similar, but no wiki or XML syntax) Check. - version management, so that validated content can be published on cocoon.apache.org while newer

[Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
To simplify and make the environment handling in flow, jxtg, modules and possibly other places more coherent, I propose that we extend the Cocoon environment apis with some utility methods that makes the environment more reflection friendly. See

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Sebastien Arbogast
Messy or poor documentation is a reason why some open-source software around here at my new job (a large regional medical care network) gets disqualified from use. If it takes the devs around here too long to figure out how to use it, out the door it goes. And it's totally normal because the

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
More specifically I propose is that we extend o.a.c.environment.Request with: Map getAttributes(); Map getParameters(); Map getHeaders(); and o.a.c.environment.Session and o.a.c.environment.Context with: Map getAttributes(); [+1] Go ahead and implement the environment extensions proposed

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Leszek Gawron
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: To simplify and make the environment handling in flow, jxtg, modules and possibly other places more coherent, I propose that we extend the Cocoon environment apis with some utility methods that makes the environment more reflection friendly. See

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2005 10:56, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, stop wasting your words ranting and tell me how you would solve the problems we have if you had commit access. Although I sympathize with your situation, but the 'tone' is a bit harsh, wouldn't you say. FYI, approx

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Steven Noels wrote: On 12 May 2005, at 15:56, Sylvain Wallez wrote: - inline WYSIWYS (what you see is what you structure, i.e. htmlarea or something similar, but no wiki or XML syntax) Check. - version management, so that validated content can be published on cocoon.apache.org while newer

Re: Cocoon documentation (was: RE: Community health)

2005-05-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Linden H van der (MI) wrote: As explained in a private mail to Sebastien, I've taken up the http://www.cocoondev.org/handbook site that Steven graciously set up for me. I intend to work on the mid-level tutorial that was the initial goal for the Cocoon In Action project. Doing it in Daisy is much

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Steven Noels
On 12 May 2005, at 16:36, Upayavira wrote: To validate whether a document should be published, i.e. to review it, which involves clearly seeing what the author changed. Check. A document has been updated: http://cocoondev.org/daisydocs-1_3/37 Document ID: 37 Branch: daisydocs-1_3 Language: en

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Sebastien Arbogast
Such management tools should allow people that have the responsibility to validate and publish content on the website to quickly grasp the job they have to do. For example, I may want to have a quick look at all changed documents that have the forms flowscript or sitemap tags, without having

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Tony Collen
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: snip And have you tried, Cocoon/Hibernate/Spring designed with AndroMDA ? This is wonderful the time you save. You just compile your UML model, write your business methods, create your forms, templates and flowscript and there you go. It's high-level, it's wonderful... as

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Mark Leicester wrote: I think you are right, I probably have dismissed the existing stuff a bit early. In that case, I pledge to keep in touch with the current effort. I certainly value ongoing dialogue. However, I wonder out loud: should we be putting documentation behind the barrier of

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: Such management tools should allow people that have the responsibility to validate and publish content on the website to quickly grasp the job they have to do. For example, I may want to have a quick look at all changed documents that have the forms flowscript or sitemap

CForms and XHTML

2005-05-12 Thread Ugo Cei
Hi, I'm currently developing a website which has some forms and of course I'm using CForms (2.1.7). The webapp uses the XHTML serializer (XHTML 1.0 transitional) and this breaks completely the rendering of forms (at least using Firefox). if I use the HTML serializer, forms are displayed OK but

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler
Steven Noels wrote: On 12 May 2005, at 16:36, Upayavira wrote: ... I was just chatting with Sylvain about this. We don't have time to create an xdocs export for Daisy, but if all goes well, we'll be doing Daisy Books (aggregation and book-like publishing) over summer. Those would target XSL-FO

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Sebastien Arbogast
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@cocoon.apache.org/msg05839.html http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11056873003r=1w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=106691291922337w=2 Thanks for the link, we gonna use it as an idea-source. There is very little that you guys said that hasn't

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Sebastien Arbogast wrote: Such management tools should allow people that have the responsibility to validate and publish content on the website to quickly grasp the job they have to do. For example, I may want to have a quick look at all changed documents that have the forms flowscript or sitemap

Re: CForms and XHTML

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ugo Cei wrote: Hi, I'm currently developing a website which has some forms and of course I'm using CForms (2.1.7). The webapp uses the XHTML serializer (XHTML 1.0 transitional) and this breaks completely the rendering of forms (at least using Firefox). if I use the HTML serializer, forms are

Re: [RT] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: The case of parameters however should be considered carefully, as ServletRequest provides getParameterMap() since servlet 2.4 (or 2.3?). Having it named getParameter() in our environment may be confusing for people used to the servlet API. That

Re: [RT] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: As Vadim pointed out in an earlier discussion this is done in Java faces: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/1.1_01/docs/api/javax/faces/context/ExternalContext.html So what I propose is that we extend

Re: Community health

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Tony Collen wrote: I asked, Why don't we just use Castor XML?, but the main arguments I got were A two-step process isn't neccesarily bad and Castor's documentation was bad. Perhaps I should have asked why we were using XML to interface with Oracle in the first place ;) Answer: This part of

Re: [CForms] having more control over showing/processing a form

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bart Molenkamp wrote: Well, I still have a little problem. Your solution works fine, as long as I add submit widgets to the form definition. This works fine for many case for me, but I still have a case where this isn't a solution. I have a form, and on that form there are two date fields, and an

Document publishing worklow (was Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined?)

2005-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I like the notion of daisy - forrest - out makes very good sense. Now we just need to find a way to automate a little that workflow, but without introducing security vulnerabilities. How about this (bullet summaries followed by textual description. Daisy as editing

Re: Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Nathaniel Alfred Alfred.Nathaniel at swx.com writes: I think there is a memory leak in http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=169806view=rev. There is a strong reference session.wrappedSession from value to key in // create new wrapper session = new

Re: CForms and XHTML

2005-05-12 Thread Marco Rolappe
hi, encountered the same problem. my rough idea, before also switching to the html serializer, was that somehow the order of stuff in head seems to be important, and using cforms the stylesheets wildly mixed links and scripts. Ugo Cei schrieb: Hi, I'm currently developing a website which has

RE: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: To simplify and make the environment handling in flow, jxtg, modules and possibly other places more coherent, I propose that we extend the Cocoon environment apis with some utility methods that makes the environment more reflection friendly. See

Re: ApacheCon / Hackathon / Blockathon

2005-05-12 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Maybe we should talk about our goals for the Blockathon first. From my POV these are: - What's a block? - What's Cocoon core? - How to implement real blocks? Consider different alternatives like Eclipse OSGi implementation, Pier's kernel, etc. talk

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
[+1 ] Go ahead and implement the environment extensions proposed above. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, SN AG http://www.s-und-n.de http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: More specifically I propose is that we extend o.a.c.environment.Request with: Map getAttributes(); Map getParameters(); Map getHeaders(); What about cookies? (There is Map getCookieMap() but naming convention is different). and o.a.c.environment.Session and

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 mai 05, à 16:48, Daniel Fagerstrom a écrit : [+1 ] Go ahead and implement the environment extensions proposed above. -Bertrand smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined? [WAS: Community health]

2005-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 mai 05, à 15:04, Mark Leicester a écrit : ...As I said above, over the next few weeks I'll attempt to demonstrate what I imagine to be the myriad of potential benefits of the Drupal approach... Sounds interesting - I'll stay tuned! -Bertrand smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Please cast your votes: [X] Go ahead and implement the environment extensions proposed above. [ ] Implement the environment extensions but use the *Map() syntax instead. [ ] Don't extend the environment. Sylvain -- Sylvain WallezAnyware

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
In addition, I really don't like the implementation that was checked in. Frankly, this is a case where I would look into leveraging backport-util-concurrent (http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/dcl/util/backport-util-concurrent/) if that code can be made to work in JDK 1.3. What I would look to do

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: More specifically I propose is that we extend o.a.c.environment.Request with: Map getAttributes(); Map getParameters(); Map getHeaders(); What about cookies? (There is Map getCookieMap() but naming convention is different). It would be natural

Re: [IMP] synchronization on session object in Cocoon

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
In addition, I really don't like the implementation that was checked in. Frankly, this is a case where I would look into leveraging backport-util-concurrent (http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/dcl/util/backport-util-concurrent/) if that code can be made to work in JDK 1.3. What I would look to do

This mailing list

2005-05-12 Thread Ralph Goers
I seem to be having serious problems with this mailing list. Yesterday I noticed I seemed to be getting messages twice and the volume seemed a little low. Last night I posted a few messages, the first of which showed up in my in box 4 hours after sending them. This morning I woke up to

Re: This mailing list

2005-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 12 mai 05, à 18:38, Ralph Goers a écrit : ...Is it just me? I'm able to send messages to other places just fine... I haven't noticed any problems yesterday or today. -Bertrand smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: More specifically I propose is that we extend o.a.c.environment.Request with: Map getAttributes(); Map getParameters(); Map getHeaders(); What about cookies? (There is Map getCookieMap() but naming convention is different). and o.a.c.environment.Session and

Re: [Vote] POJOfied Environment

2005-05-12 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: More specifically I propose is that we extend o.a.c.environment.Request with: Map getAttributes(); Map getParameters(); Map getHeaders(); What about cookies? (There is Map getCookieMap() but naming convention is

RE: Document publishing worklow (was Re: Expert pre-defined/community post-defined?)

2005-05-12 Thread Conal Tuohy
Ross Gardler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I like the notion of daisy - forrest - out makes very good sense. Now we just need to find a way to automate a little that workflow, but without introducing security vulnerabilities. How about this (bullet summaries

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