Cocoon marketing (was: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms)

2005-09-18 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 14.04.2005 15:19, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Now that Cocoon has Spring and Ajax support, we really should post an article on TSS ;-) I guess this has not happened yet ;) Cocoon was also the first web framework with continuations and never really made something out of it. We could really

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-06-23 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On 23 Jun 2005, at 10:23, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Jeremy Quinn wrote: I have seen other 'Ajax' type frameworks that allegedly work on Safari, so there must be some solution (?) Fixed! I added a workaround in Forms.js to always send something back to the browser, rather than just some

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-06-22 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Don't be! The issue with Safari is that its XMLHttpRequest doesn't seem to consider responses of length zero as valid, which Firefox and IE do. The problem is that fixing this will require to add an additional ajax-specific pipeline in each

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-06-22 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Jeremy Quinn wrote: On 22 Jun 2005, at 10:01, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Don't be! The issue with Safari is that its XMLHttpRequest doesn't seem to consider responses of length zero as valid, which Firefox and IE do. The problem is that

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-06-21 Thread Jeremy Quinn
Hi Sylvain, I get the same problems with Safari 2.0 (412) with Tiger. This is just a warning for anyone wanting to use this new Ajax stuff for real projects .. this stuff does not degrade gracefully, it just breaks in this browser. Sorry regards Jeremy On 23 Apr 2005, at 13:47,

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-06-21 Thread Tony Collen
Jeremy Quinn wrote: Hi Sylvain, I get the same problems with Safari 2.0 (412) with Tiger. This is just a warning for anyone wanting to use this new Ajax stuff for real projects .. this stuff does not degrade gracefully, it just breaks in this browser. Could try turning on the Safari

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-06-21 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Jeremy Quinn wrote: Hi Sylvain, I get the same problems with Safari 2.0 (412) with Tiger. This is just a warning for anyone wanting to use this new Ajax stuff for real projects .. this stuff does not degrade gracefully, it just breaks in this browser. Sorry Don't be! The issue

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-23 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On 14 Apr 2005, at 14:19, Sylvain Wallez wrote: I have turned on ajax mode on the following samples: - http://localhost:/forms-samples/carselector - http://localhost:/forms-samples/do-dynaRepeater.flow - http://localhost:/forms-samples/do-datasourceChooser.flow -

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-23 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Jeremy Quinn wrote: On 14 Apr 2005, at 14:19, Sylvain Wallez wrote: I have turned on ajax mode on the following samples: - http://localhost:/forms-samples/carselector - http://localhost:/forms-samples/do-dynaRepeater.flow - http://localhost:/forms-samples/do-datasourceChooser.flow -

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: Simply, wow, it is great! :-) I started to do something similar 4 days before you posted this solution! My main motivation was because repeater widget with comboboxes are very slow in 2.1.x. I saw a browser waiting around 2 minutes to show a form because the repeater data. The all form was

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Michael McGrady
Thought I'd pass on to the Struts list the great success and popularity Frank Zammetti's ideas are having on the Cocoon list. On 4/20/05, Antonio Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Simply, wow, it is great! :-) I started to do something similar 4 days before you posted this solution!

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: Simply, wow, it is great! :-) Thanks :-) (stupid Struts people that think the whole world reads their articles and mailing lists) I started to do something similar 4 days before you posted this solution! My main motivation was because repeater widget with

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Michael McGrady
SNIP On 4/21/05, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (stupid Struts people that think the whole world reads their articles and mailing lists) /SNIP What I like most about your writing, Sylvain, is your almost poetic innate sense of assonance. The article was quoted by the post I

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Michael McGrady wrote: SNIP On 4/21/05, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (stupid Struts people that think the whole world reads their articles and mailing lists) /SNIP What I like most about your writing, Sylvain, is your almost poetic innate sense of assonance. The article was quoted by

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Michael McGrady wrote: SNIP On 4/21/05, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (stupid Struts people that think the whole world reads their articles and mailing lists) /SNIP What I like most about your writing, Sylvain, is your almost poetic innate sense of assonance.

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Michael McGrady wrote: SNIP On 4/21/05, Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (stupid Struts people that think the whole world reads their articles and mailing lists) /SNIP What I like most about your writing, Sylvain, is your almost poetic innate sense of assonance.

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Jue, 21 de Abril de 2005, 3:07, Michael McGrady dijo: Thought I'd pass on to the Struts list the great success and popularity Frank Zammetti's ideas are having on the Cocoon list. Hi Michael, Unfortunately, I need to tell this just for the records: In cocoon XmlHttpRequest was first saw in

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Michael McGrady
Well, my real interest was in letting Frank Zammetti on the Struts list know about the work on Cocoon. I did not know I had to be real careful to make sure that Sylvain's sense of under-privilege was not hurt. I did not even notice he was part of the equation, frankly. I certainly don't think

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Michael McGrady
I did not say what you say was not true Gallardo. I should have been more careful and I would have been had I known there were fragile people out there who might be hurt. As it was, I do not take myself so seriously as some others do. Anyway, I sure did not mean to suggest that Cocoon was built

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Michael McGrady wrote: Well, my real interest was in letting Frank Zammetti on the Struts list know about the work on Cocoon. I did not know I had to be real careful to make sure that Sylvain's sense of under-privilege was not hurt. I did not even notice he was part of the equation, frankly. I

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Michael McGrady
You're right. Peace! On 4/21/05, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael McGrady wrote: Well, my real interest was in letting Frank Zammetti on the Struts list know about the work on Cocoon. I did not know I had to be real careful to make sure that Sylvain's sense of

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-21 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Jue, 21 de Abril de 2005, 23:53, Michael McGrady dijo: I did not say what you say was not true Gallardo. I should have been more careful and I would have been had I known there were fragile people out there who might be hurt. As it was, I do not take myself so seriously as some others do.

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-17 Thread Mats
Great initiative! Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the XmlHttpRequest + JS + XML combo [2]. snip/ Two

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-17 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Mats wrote: Great initiative! Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the XmlHttpRequest + JS + XML combo [2].

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Ben Pope
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the XmlHttpRequest + JS + XML combo [2]. snip/ Two days hacking, most

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Leszek Gawron
Ben Pope wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the XmlHttpRequest + JS + XML combo [2]. snip/ Two

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Leszek Gawron wrote: Ben Pope wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the XmlHttpRequest + JS + XML

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Leszek Gawron
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Ben Pope wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Sylvain Wallez wrote: snip/ Doh! I understand why you say promising :-( I tested it successfully with Firefox 1.0 on MacOS and Windows and IE 6. The behaviour you describe with Firefox is what I had to fight a lot with: Node.importNode() effectively imports nodes, but that doesn't mean they're

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Ben Pope
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: It looks really promising. I was not able to run the samples. Firefox has rendered the retrieved list as text (outside selection widget). IE just showed javascript error and did nothing. Doh! I understand why you say promising :-( I tested it

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ben Pope wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: It looks really promising. I was not able to run the samples. Firefox has rendered the retrieved list as text (outside selection widget). IE just showed javascript error and did nothing. Doh! I understand why you say promising :-( I

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Ben Pope
Sylvain Wallez wrote: This is the XHR-powered carselector Ugo added months ago as a first experiment. Try the regular carselector, and also dynamic repeater, datasource selector and task tree (right column). I did wonder, as it wasn't what you'd mentioned. However, Firefox renders carselector

Re: Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-16 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Ben Pope wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: This is the XHR-powered carselector Ugo added months ago as a first experiment. Try the regular carselector, and also dynamic repeater, datasource selector and task tree (right column). I did wonder, as it wasn't what you'd mentioned. However, Firefox

Transparent and automatic AJAX support for CForms

2005-04-14 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Hi all, I've been thinking for a few weeks to add AJAX support to CForms. Ajax is the current buzzword in the blogosphere since Google maps [1] started and the folks at Adaptivepath found this name for the XmlHttpRequest + JS + XML combo [2]. At first this looked like a complex problem,