Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Hank Grabowski
You would think so, but Java 6 hasn't been updated since early 2013 and is still a quarter or more of the installed Java base. The support for highly scalable parallel operations that the new Java 8 language features get is very tempting though. Could we have a Java 8 branch on the core library

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread venkatesha m
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 10:45 PM, Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:05:27 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: You would think so, but Java 6 hasn't been updated since early 2013 and is still a quarter or more of the installed Java base. The support for

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Hank Grabowski
As much as I would like to I'm very new to the Apache development universe. I've actually been involved through one release cycle and only as a contributor. I wouldn't mind working with a more seasoned person batting around ideas offline to then present to the group though. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 15/01/15 16:15, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:52:11 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: Good call, Silviu! The most recent version of their survey of Plumbr installations (823 in total) was May of last year, only a few months after Java 8 came out (link below). At that time the break down

Re: [math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02:32 +0100, Adriean Khisbe wrote: Hi, Working on a project I had to capture current state of a DescriptiveStatistics, and choosed to use a StatisticalSummaryValues to hold the value. I looked it if was possible to do it in one short method call, but didn't found the

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:05:27 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: You would think so, but Java 6 hasn't been updated since early 2013 and is still a quarter or more of the installed Java base. The support for highly scalable parallel operations that the new Java 8 language features get is very

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:42:43 +0100, Luc Maisonobe wrote: Le 15/01/2015 17:15, Gilles a écrit : On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:52:11 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: Good call, Silviu! The most recent version of their survey of Plumbr installations (823 in total) was May of last year, only a few months

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 09:32:25 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: If you are referring to default functions on interfaces, it's not going to be like multiple inheritance C++ style. Their rationale is to help for backwards compatibility with upgraded interfaces that add methods. Obviously it could be

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:52:11 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: Good call, Silviu! The most recent version of their survey of Plumbr installations (823 in total) was May of last year, only a few months after Java 8 came out (link below). At that time the break down was: Java 5 at 0.4%, Java 6 at

Re: Question about: IOUtils.skipFully(InputString,long)

2015-01-15 Thread dan bress
Thomas, Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the info/link. Dan On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Thomas Neidhart thomas.neidh...@gmail.com wrote: Explanation can be found here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IO-355 Thomas On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, dan bress danbr...@gmail.com

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Luc Maisonobe
Le 15/01/2015 17:15, Gilles a écrit : On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 07:52:11 -0500, Hank Grabowski wrote: Good call, Silviu! The most recent version of their survey of Plumbr installations (823 in total) was May of last year, only a few months after Java 8 came out (link below). At that time the

Jenkins build is back to stable : Commons Math #33

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Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Hank Grabowski
Actually conflict resolution on multiple default methods is a little more complicated (just fast forward to the 20 minute mark for the discussion on that): http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/1113272518001 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Hank Grabowski h...@applieddefense.com wrote:

Re: [Math] Java version (Was: [MATH] Jenkins build)

2015-01-15 Thread Thomas Neidhart
On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote: Hi. Raising this issue once again. Are we going to upgrade the requirement for the next major release? [ ] Java 5 [x] Java 6 [x] Java 7 [ ] Java 8 [ ] Java 9 A while ago I thought that it would be cool to switch to Java 7/8 for some of the

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Bruce A Johnson
I’m very happily starting to use Java 8 and am making lots of use of JavaFX (not so relevant to Math), and lambdas and streams (playing around with a little numpy like interface to Math). So, on the one hand I’m all for Java 8, but on the other hand there are things I’d rather see done for the

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Ole Ersoy
How many of the mobile developers have to have a 4.0 release? I suspect that 90% would be fine using 3.4, and the remaining 10% can wire the results of the calculation using alternative means such as a REST or Socket service. Cheers, - Ole On 01/15/2015 11:32 AM, venkatesha m wrote:

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Apache Commons Net - Apache Commons (Maven 3 Build Definition (Java 1.5))

2015-01-15 Thread Apache Continuum
Online report : https://continuum-ci.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=39223projectId=107 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Ok Started at: Thu 15 Jan 2015 23:20:28 + Finished at: Thu 15 Jan 2015 23:20:50 + Total time: 22s Build Trigger: Schedule

Re: [math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-15 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/15/15 9:50 AM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02:32 +0100, Adriean Khisbe wrote: Hi, Working on a project I had to capture current state of a DescriptiveStatistics, and choosed to use a StatisticalSummaryValues to hold the value. I looked it if was possible to do it in one short

Re: [Math] Java version (Was: [MATH] Jenkins build)

2015-01-15 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/15/15 2:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote: Hi. Raising this issue once again. Are we going to upgrade the requirement for the next major release? [ ] Java 5 [x] Java 6 [x] Java 7 [ ] Java 8 [ ] Java 9 A while ago I thought that it would

Re: [All] Animal sniffer (was: [math] Arrays.copyOf is Java 1.6+)

2015-01-15 Thread sebb
On 9 January 2015 at 15:22, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 January 2015 at 10:01, Thomas Neidhart thomas.neidh...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/09/2015 02:00 AM, sebb wrote: On 9 January 2015 at 00:47, Bernd Eckenfels e...@zusammenkunft.net wrote: Am Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:38:31 + schrieb sebb

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:41:11 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 2:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote: Hi. Raising this issue once again. Are we going to upgrade the requirement for the next major release? [ ] Java 5 [x] Java 6 [x] Java 7 [ ] Java 8

Re: [Math] Java version (Was: [MATH] Jenkins build)

2015-01-15 Thread Ole Ersoy
On 01/15/2015 03:24 PM, Thomas Neidhart wrote: On 01/08/2015 12:34 PM, Gilles wrote: Hi. Raising this issue once again. Are we going to upgrade the requirement for the next major release? [ ] Java 5 [x] Java 6 [x] Java 7 [ ] Java 8 [ ] Java 9 A while ago I thought that it

Re: [math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 15:09:29 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 1/15/15 9:50 AM, Gilles wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:02:32 +0100, Adriean Khisbe wrote: Hi, Working on a project I had to capture current state of a DescriptiveStatistics, and choosed to use a StatisticalSummaryValues to hold the

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-15 Thread Peter Ansell
The Clerezza team were all notified about the effort to put a common RDF API together on GitHub and they responded positively at that point. The only sticking point then and now IMO is the purely academic distinction of opening up internal labels for blank nodes versus not opening it up at all.

Re: [ALL] Too much traffic on the dev ML

2015-01-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi Gilles, 2015-01-16 1:47 GMT+01:00 Gilles gil...@harfang.homelinux.org: Hi. In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the traffic volume is a stumbling block. [For some time now, it has been a growing nuisance, and the usual dismissal about filters won't change the fact:

[continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Apache Commons Parent - Apache Commons (CP cannot use -Prelease; uses Java 1.5)

2015-01-15 Thread Apache Continuum
Online report : https://continuum-ci.apache.org/continuum/buildResult.action?buildId=39221projectId=131 Build statistics: State: Failed Previous State: Ok Started at: Thu 15 Jan 2015 19:20:29 + Finished at: Thu 15 Jan 2015 19:20:44 + Total time: 14s Build Trigger: Schedule

Re: svn commit: r1651525 - /commons/proper/validator/trunk/src/main/java/org/apache/commons/validator/routines/DomainValidator.java

2015-01-15 Thread sebb AT ASF
Note: a permanent solution (I hope!) has now been implemented. On 13 January 2015 at 22:32, sebb AT ASF s...@apache.org wrote: This reverts back to the 1.4 code (except for the reflection part) and fixes the test failures. However it is not a permanent solution. On 13 January 2015 at 22:30,

[ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi all, I just want to let you know, that I've joined the discussion, the github commons rdf community is currently having at github [3]. I think it is time for the PMC to take action here since it feels like there is a conflict in the beginning. Hello Commons RDF community, first of all, I'm

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-15 Thread Sergio Fernández
Hi Benedikt, On 15/01/15 09:40, Benedikt Ritter wrote: I just want to let you know, that I've joined the discussion, the github commons rdf community is currently having at github [3]. I think it is time for the PMC to take action here since it feels like there is a conflict in the beginning.

Re: your opinion on commons-rdf proposal

2015-01-15 Thread Minto van der Sluis
Sure! Reto Gmür schreef op 15-1-2015 om 10:06: Hi Minto, Thanks a lot for your valuable comments. Would you mind reposting to the mailing list as to have tis discussion public? Cheers, Reto On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Minto van der Sluis mi...@xup.nl mailto:mi...@xup.nl wrote:

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Hank Grabowski
Good call, Silviu! The most recent version of their survey of Plumbr installations (823 in total) was May of last year, only a few months after Java 8 came out (link below). At that time the break down was: Java 5 at 0.4%, Java 6 at 36%, Java 7 at 61% and Java 8 at 2.5%. I'm still looking for

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Evan Ward
From an API perspective we can design a functional programming API in Java 7, it will just be more verbose than in Java 8. One unique feature that Java 8 does bring is multiple inheritance. Now that interfaces can have method implementations classes can inherit methods from multiple super classes.

Re: [ALL][RDF] github Commons RDF vs. Apache Commons Sandbox RDF

2015-01-15 Thread Bruno P. Kinoshita
Hello! I feel like I can't help much in the current discussion. But just wanted to chime in and tell that I'm +1 for a [rdf] component in Apache Commons. As a commons committer I'd like to help. I started watching the GitHub repository and have subscribed to the ongoing discussion. I'll

Question about: IOUtils.skipFully(InputString,long)

2015-01-15 Thread dan bress
Commons IO developers, I am trying to use IOUtils.skipFully(InputStream, long) to skip a number of bytes on my input stream. Why does this method call read() on the InputStream, rather than skip()? In my case, the implementation of my InputStream does have performance benefits of calling

[math] suggestion: introducing getSummary method on descriptive statistics

2015-01-15 Thread Adriean Khisbe
Hi, Working on a project I had to capture current state of a DescriptiveStatistics, and choosed to use a StatisticalSummaryValues to hold the value. I looked it if was possible to do it in one short method call, but didn't found the method. However I found some equivalent in SummaryStatistics:

Re: Question about: IOUtils.skipFully(InputString,long)

2015-01-15 Thread Thomas Neidhart
Explanation can be found here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IO-355 Thomas On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, dan bress danbr...@gmail.com wrote: Commons IO developers, I am trying to use IOUtils.skipFully(InputStream, long) to skip a number of bytes on my input stream. Why does

Re: [Math] Java version

2015-01-15 Thread Hank Grabowski
If you are referring to default functions on interfaces, it's not going to be like multiple inheritance C++ style. Their rationale is to help for backwards compatibility with upgraded interfaces that add methods. Obviously it could be used to intentionally provide default methods from the very

[ALL] Too much traffic on the dev ML

2015-01-15 Thread Gilles
Hi. In the discussion that started about RDF, it seems that the traffic volume is a stumbling block. [For some time now, it has been a growing nuisance, and the usual dismissal about filters won't change the fact: Setting up a filter that will redirect stuff to /dev/null is a waste of