That's great Dinesh.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when
> I hear back.
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> >
> > Hi Aizhamal
> >
> > The rules are that a
I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I
hear back.
Dinesh
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
>
> Hi Aizhamal
>
> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per
> organisation - and we are asking for the
Hi Aizhamal
The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per
organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint
not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the
possibility that we get allocated only 1.
My thought
On 2019/04/03 04:47:24, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Hello Dinesh,
>
> According to
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/terms/program-rules
> 1.13 "*Organization*" means the open source organization that registers for
> the Program as an organization.
>
> I believe this is the ASF
>
I've seen a couple of threads about this sort of unsolicited email. Is
there an easy "what to do" doc my colleagues or I could follow? I am
especially perturbed because this went to u...@beam.apache.org.
Kenn
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From: Amber Horvath
Date: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at
I am slightly confused here. I believe each ASF project that wishes to
participate can qualify as an organization. If the whole of ASF were to be
enrolled as an organization, that would limit the ASF to 1 technical writer.
Can someone please clarify what the rules are?
Dinesh
> On Apr 2,
If I'm not mistaken rules are:
one tech writer - 2 mentors
So I doubt all proposals will be covered
We have to wisely choose best proposals, and hopefully next year we will
get more tech writers
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 04:57, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
wrote:
> Hi Sharan,
>
> We plan to prepare
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:44 PM Griselda Cuevas
wrote:
> To the point of no calls...
>
> How does the board meet and make decisions?
That's a very fair question.
The board practice is to assemble all of the reports, suggested motions etc
days and sometimes weeks before the synchronous meeting.
To the point of no calls...
How does the board meet and make decisions?
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 5:43 PM Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> Sam suggested a call, so that's why I initiated.
>
>
> I think a call will help work out quickly a document we can socialize in
> the mailing list.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr
Sam suggested a call, so that's why I initiated.
I think a call will help work out quickly a document we can socialize in
the mailing list.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 1:27 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Can I recommend instead of a call, using the newly created
> mailing list... In general, Apache
Hi Sharan,
We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
I’m happy to chat
Hi All
As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today and
I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers. Google
will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer mentored (which I
Can I recommend instead of a call, using the newly created
mailing list... In general, Apache tries to avoid the use of
sync communication medium except when absolutely required.
I think that esp for such a topic as D, starting the effort off
using a method that inherently disenfranchises people
Hi Trevor
The mentors will need to register separately. I will start a new thread and
share the required links.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2019/04/02 19:37:48, Trevor Grant wrote:
> We have another volunteer to mentor on Apache SDAP-Incubating
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:44 PM
Hi Dinesh
I've started on the ASF application and will start a new thread as there are
some things that need to be setup.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2019/04/02 17:44:31, "dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.INVALID"
wrote:
> They're taking applications now.
> Dinesh
>
> On Saturday, March 30, 2019, 9:08:50
Hi everyone,
Following up the original thread that sparked the creation of a Diversity &
Inclusion committee in the ASF [1], I'm coordinating a call/videocall to
discuss the proposal details to the board.
*Action by April 5th, 2019 @ midnight PST*
If you're interested in being part of the
We have another volunteer to mentor on Apache SDAP-Incubating
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:44 PM dinesh.jo...@yahoo.com.INVALID
wrote:
> They're taking applications now.
> Dinesh
>
> On Saturday, March 30, 2019, 9:08:50 AM PDT,
> wrote:
>
> Excellent and thanks Maxim! :-)
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
Craig, I was tempted to ask the same but in reverse re divers...@apache.org.
I am wary of dropping the "inclusion" aspect.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 19:48, Craig Russell wrote:
> Before we get locked into this JIRA, could we consider changing its name
> to DIVERSITY instead of DI ?
>
> Craig
>
> >
Outreachy is great and we should add that to a list of things to look into
re our efforts, working with them, etc. I met Karen Sandler in person once
and she is good people.
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 19:56, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:59 PM Mark Thomas wrote:
>
> > I asked
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 2:59 PM Mark Thomas wrote:
> I asked the D folks at $dayjob for some advice / suggestions and got
> back the following:
>
> 1. Mozilla have been doing some work in this area. It was suggested we
> reach out to them to get the benefit of their experience. Anyone have
> any
iirc there were discussions about public lists and their suitability
for the kind of changes and audiences involved, positive
discrimination, outreach efforts, etc...
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
>
> Any highlights, take aways or tips on what to look for?
>
> On Tue,
Before we get locked into this JIRA, could we consider changing its name to
DIVERSITY instead of DI ?
Craig
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:06 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
>
> @joan - I also get a Pony, I requested the Jira ;)
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 10:03 AM Joan Touzet wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
They're taking applications now.
Dinesh
On Saturday, March 30, 2019, 9:08:50 AM PDT, wrote:
Excellent and thanks Maxim! :-)
Thanks
Sharan
On 30. 03. 19 16:45, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Hello Sharah
>
> I can help :)
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019, 22:33 Sharan Foga wrote:
>
>> Hi Kenn
>>
Any highlights, take aways or tips on what to look for?
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 9:09 AM Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Not sure how many people were around back in the day,
> but it would be good to learn whatever can be learned
> from the women@ "experiment":
>
>
I don't know why I missed Mark's email, it appeared in a different thread
in my Gmail.
I will take your suggestions Mark and embed them into a proposal in the new
Jira board.
Thank you!!! This is inspiring, motivating and amazing.
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Mark Thomas wrote:
> I asked
Thank you!
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 10:12 AM Daniel Gruno wrote:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?divers...@apache.org
>
>
>
> On 02/04/2019 12.03, Joan Touzet wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Daniel wrote:
> >
> >> Requested, and should be ready within an hour or two.
> >
> > Thank you! You get a pony!
Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> @joan - I also get a Pony, I requested the Jira ;)
Of course you do!
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^^
-Joan "Caaan do!" Touzet
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?divers...@apache.org
On 02/04/2019 12.03, Joan Touzet wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Requested, and should be ready within an hour or two.
Thank you! You get a pony!
-Joan "JFDI" Touzet
-
To
@Sam - let's arrange a date & time. I am on my phone (currently at
FlinkForward), but when I get my laptop I'll send a Doodle in a new thread
to schedule.
Thanks all for chiming in and helping move this forward, all get ponies :)
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 10:06 AM Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> @joan - I
@joan - I also get a Pony, I requested the Jira ;)
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 10:03 AM Joan Touzet wrote:
>
>
>
> Daniel wrote:
>
> > Requested, and should be ready within an hour or two.
>
> Thank you! You get a pony!
>
> -Joan "JFDI" Touzet
>
>
Daniel wrote:
> Requested, and should be ready within an hour or two.
Thank you! You get a pony!
-Joan "JFDI" Touzet
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Let's you and I find some time to chat, possibly with ross and others, and
we can bring a proposal back to the list.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 12:44 PM Griselda Cuevas
wrote:
> +1 to divers...@apache.org
>
> I want to move forward on creating a president's committee. How do I do
> that?
>
> On Tue,
On 02/04/2019 11.37, Joan Touzet wrote:
Daniel Gruno said:
On 02/04/2019 11.34, Joan Touzet wrote:
Daniel said:
On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote:
On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote:
Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
Daniel Gruno said:
I'd recommend a separate mailing
Daniel Gruno said:
> On 02/04/2019 11.34, Joan Touzet wrote:
> > Daniel said:
> >> On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>> On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote:
> Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
>
> Daniel Gruno said:
> > I'd recommend a separate mailing
+1 to divers...@apache.org
I want to move forward on creating a president's committee. How do I do
that?
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 9:36 AM Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 02/04/2019 11.34, Joan Touzet wrote:
> > Daniel said:
> >> On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>> On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan
On 02/04/2019 11.34, Joan Touzet wrote:
Daniel said:
On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote:
On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote:
Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
Daniel Gruno said:
I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) and a
JIRA,
perhaps some place to put
Daniel said:
> On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote:
> >> Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
> >>
> >> Daniel Gruno said:
> >>> I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) and a
> >>> JIRA,
> >>> perhaps some place to put
On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote:
On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote:
Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
Daniel Gruno said:
I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) and a JIRA,
perhaps some place to put documents (either within the comdev svn
area,
or
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 5:39 PM Griselda Cuevas wrote:
> ...this rationale still treats the effort to embrace the need for a
> Diversity and Inclusion strategy as a proof of concept, expecting it will
> die...
FWIW that's not my angle. I was just trying to keep things simple, and
small reversible
On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote:
Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
Daniel Gruno said:
I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) and a JIRA,
perhaps some place to put documents (either within the comdev svn
area,
or somewhere else if spun off), and then...just get
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>
>
> The specific organizational structure does indeed seem like a moot topic.
> What matters is that wherever this take place, the group is given *space and
> freedom* to get some work done. I'd be fine with it being within ComDev, I'd
>
Trying to cut through the bikeshedding:
Daniel Gruno said:
> I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) and a JIRA,
> perhaps some place to put documents (either within the comdev svn
> area,
> or somewhere else if spun off), and then...just get to work :)
This is what Griselda
what I liked about Mark's proposal for a VP D is that it sets a very
clear top-down message that the Board is taking this matter seriously and
that ongoing monthly reports are something we are committing to
I think that is diluted somewhat in both intent and impact if this is
"relegated" to a
On 02/04/2019 10.57, Jim Jagielski wrote:
I don't think anyone expects it to die, but rather that D be one of
the core aspects of community development and not an effort,
in and of itself. If it reaches critical mass and warrants being
spun out (due to clear division of tasks between D and
Not sure how many people were around back in the day,
but it would be good to learn whatever can be learned
from the women@ "experiment":
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?wo...@apache.org
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Ah. Ok. That's fair. I retract my comment.
I was seeing going the full top-level committee thing as being a
bureaucratic stumbling block, and not in this light. I have no strong
preference one way or the other and merely wanted to remove obstacles.
Your reasoning is compelling and right. Go for
I don't think anyone expects it to die, but rather that D be one of
the core aspects of community development and not an effort,
in and of itself. If it reaches critical mass and warrants being
spun out (due to clear division of tasks between D and ComDev)
then I think everyone would support that.
Top-post:
Couldn’t this be made a President’s committee now and the board can chat about
it elsewhere until the next board meeting in a few weeks? The board could even
defer until there are Policy recommendations.
(I’m not excited about reading yet another passionate Jim/Sam debate about
On 4/2/2019 8:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
...
It's just that the comdev PMC is responsible for oversight and
reporting on those new initiatives, and it keeps things simple for
now.
That is exactly what troubles me about making the new initiative part of
ComDev.
There seems to me to be
I agree with Sam that if we do not formalize this as a committee it will
die.
I understand and acknowledge the reasons why this being part of ComDev
makes sense: simplicity and agility to get off the ground.
However, this rationale still treats the effort to embrace the need for a
Diversity and
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:57 PM Sam Ruby wrote:
> ...My feeling is that it will die here...
IIUC what's been proposed so far is a new mailing list and issue tracker.
Both can very well be owned by comdev and that shouldn't limit
progress in any way.
It's just that the comdev PMC is responsible
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:48 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:53 PM Rich Bowen wrote:
> > ...In the spirit of small reversible steps, starting as a ComDev
> > initiative, and then, if needed, graduating to its own entity later?...
>
> Good point, that's what I was
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:53 PM Rich Bowen wrote:
> ...In the spirit of small reversible steps, starting as a ComDev
> initiative, and then, if needed, graduating to its own entity later?...
Good point, that's what I was trying to say, but better said ;-)
-Bertrand
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
>
> On 4/2/19 7:05 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> Does it need to be its own entity? Why can't this be a task/effort under
>> ComDev's control/charter? It certainly seems to fit under the
>> concept of comdev and the people are already here...
On 4/2/19 7:05 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Does it need to be its own entity? Why can't this be a task/effort under
> ComDev's control/charter? It certainly seems to fit under the
> concept of comdev and the people are already here...
In the spirit of small reversible steps, starting as a
Hi Chris,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:43 PM Christofer Dutz
wrote:
> ...CS40 - In Apache projects, vetoes are only valid for code commits and are
> justified
> by a technical explanation, as per the Apache voting rules defined in CS30
I wrote that bit as that was my understanding until very
Hi Sam,
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:25 PM Sam Ruby wrote:
> ...My recommendation at this time is that it becomes a committee,..
> There are early talks about this group having a budget and hiring a
> vendor. The organizational structure chosen should be one that
> enables that...
Ok, let's wait
IMO, this sounds like a cmmt that will defining and implementing
policy... which is a board prerogative. My pref would be, if this
really does need to be outside of ComDev, it be a board cmmt
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:32 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
>
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 3:32 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
>
> We've had problems in the past with lists becoming orphaned after some
> time because they didn't clearly belong to one of our PMCs.
My recommendation at this time is that it becomes a committee,
complete with requirements to produce
Does it need to be its own entity? Why can't this be a task/effort under
ComDev's control/charter? It certainly seems to fit under the
concept of comdev and the people are already here...
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Griselda Cuevas wrote:
>
> Another update.
>
> I'm writing the note to
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:13 AM Sam Ruby wrote:
> ...What would you like for the name of the list? divers...@apache.org?
> da...@pache.org? d...@apache.org? If you pick a name, you can request
> this yourself...
We've had problems in the past with lists becoming orphaned after some
time
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