Sure.
Ted
发件人: Hervé BOUTEMY<mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr>
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ok, waiting for y
vember 26, 2015 5:43 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache
> China Community
> There are many Chinese in ASF community who could help on this, We could
> engage them to help review.
> Count me as
vember 26, 2015 5:43 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
There are many Chinese in ASF community who could help on this, We could engage
them to help review.
Count me as one:-)
Thanks.
Luke
Bes
come a committer
> > of
> > > comdev to review and to be able to edit the content.
> >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:5
t; > -Original Message-
> > From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:56 PM
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> > China C
o review and to be able to edit the content.
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:56 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
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Yes, that's what we are hoping for. I'd also like to become a committer of
comdev to review and to be able to edit the content.
Ted
-Origin
Mainly the Chinese contents.
Ted
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发件人: "Ted Liu"
发送时间: 2015/11/25 16:22
收件人: "dev@community.apache.org"
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Yes, that's what we are hoping for. I'd also like to be
ubject: Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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yes, that's what I meant: anybody can send patch, a committer must commit
for me, "editing" was about publishing, ie requiring commit privilege.
but there is a feature I don't really ma
re, then send to a Chinese
> committer to proofread and edit the site.
>
> Ted
>
> 发件人: Hervé BOUTEMY<mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr>
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I don't exactly know what you mean by "crowd-source the tasks to the OSS
community in China": currently, you must be Apache committer to be able to
edit community site
Then the first steps to engage pe
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I don't exactly know what you mean by "crowd-source the tasks to the OSS
community in China": currently, you must be Apa
ofreading. As said earlier, this would greatly
> inspire the communities and devs here.
>
> Ted
>
> 发件人: Hervé BOUTEMY<mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr>
> 发送时间: 2015/11/22 0:11
> 收件人: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org&g
re willing can't do it
alone, they need support. That support should come from here.
-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:12 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache C
On 11/23/15, 11:01 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>It won't be a community if people are unable to follow the
>discussions. I think that it would be fine to handle user@ traffic in
>whatever language, but we need to enforce English as the language of
>community decision making.
Sure, once the d
It won't be a community if people are unable to follow the
discussions. I think that it would be fine to handle user@ traffic in
whatever language, but we need to enforce English as the language of
community decision making.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>
>>That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful
>>discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that
>>engagement. It wouldn't look all that much
On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful
>discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that
>engagement. It wouldn't look all that much different than the usual
>English Q&A here on dev@c a o.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> My apologies if misunderstood from Ted Dunning's earlier comment: " I was
> a mentor on kylin and worried about English being a problem for
> contribution. The real problem is that apache is partially defined by the
> use of English to allow as w
Got it. Will work with Sally for it. Ted
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From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:20 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
True that any
an unknown that younger generation
> > > contributors would not tolerate.
> > >
> > > The more challenging part is the culture differences where the sense of
> > > community, governance, contribution and the Apache Way are still at
> > > infant stage in Ch
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> Subject: Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache
> China Community
>
> One more important thing I would like to emphasize here is there are many
> people are
Ted
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发送时间: 2015/11/22 2:43
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On
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Lei Chang wrote:
> There are about 5 million college graduates each year in China, and i think
> there is
> a great potential to increase the number of contributors from Apache
> community in China.
Speaking of which: do you know what's the status of Google Summe
Han<mailto:luke...@gmail.com>
Sent: 11/21/2015 6:17 AM
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One more important thing I would like to emphasize here is there are man
he.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> used by 500M Wechat chatters on dail
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then IMHO some chinese speaking people should start writing a little
introduction on
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=community.a
ve China-specific scenario.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:56 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
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> Community
.@gmail.com>
> 发送时间: 2015/11/21 22:39
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>
> Hi Ted L,
> I don
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Hi Ted L,
I don't think "elites" is good idea here:) we just work very hard to
learn the Apache Way, to engage world wide community and develop our
project for people really
lto:luke...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:08 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> >>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache
Regards!
> -
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
>
>> Understood.
>>
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> 发件人: Ted Dunning<mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
>> 发送时
Exactly, it's more than just content translation. Ted
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From: Luke Han [mailto:luke...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:18 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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One
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:08 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
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>>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin
>>incubation
project and tr
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>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
>
> > p.s. The reason why a Wechat publ
Understood.
Ted
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On Sat, Nov 21, 201
the
> Chinese-originated projects like Kylin. So the localization priority is
> obvious.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:33 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@he
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> used by 500M Wechat chatters on daily basis to acquire/learn information.
> This is a very effective China-specific scenario.
>
Note that you can use ANY channel or medium
@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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thinking more about it
Imagine:
- a few localized pages in
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=community.apache.org&data=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft
Ted,
My further comments are in-line. Your explanation is helping understand
what your goals are.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> Hi Ted, Yes, we want to establish a bridge or a group (if the idea of
> "China Community" seemed to be intimidating or crazy) to help more devs
>
priority is obvious.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:33 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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Ted
I think apache can
contents and a streamline user
> > experience. Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:00 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Forming a comm
From: Ted Dunning<mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Sent: 11/21/2015 3:27 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org<mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Ross,
How d
e.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org<mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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Ross,
How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable
needs to maintain English as
ommunity.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> Localized content is a great suggestion.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58
r.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:46 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
&
Ross,
How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable
needs to maintain English as the language of apache with the need to allow
non-English speaking Chinese speakers to participate?
I can't.
To the extent that it is possible, I encourage English capable people
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:46 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Why do those pioneers need a place outside of
@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Localized content is a great suggestion.
-Original Message-
From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Localized content is a great suggestion.
-Original Message-
From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
I like the idea of
lture where the proposed China community/group can
> > contribute.
> >
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.
: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
+1 for a formal community project in China.
There are some experiences I can share when some apache committers in China are
developing the community for Apache HAWQ (in incubation).
A wechat
rday, November 21, 2015 1:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org; nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Hi Niclas,
It'd be appreciated an open and constructive discussion can be formed at ASF
instead of labeling or stereotyping. The
ity.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> +1 for a formal community project in China.
>
> There are some experiences I can share when some apache committers in China
> are developing the communit
Lei, Thanks. Ted
-Original Message-
From: Lei Chang [mailto:chang.lei...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:17 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
+1 for a formal community
d China community/group can
> contribute.
>
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Ap
blockers are language and
> non-Apache-Way culture where the proposed China community/group can
> contribute.
>
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: dev@c
om: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Ted,
2 things...
1. There were Apache Roadshows in Shanghai in 2010 and 2011.
2. I am glad t
Ted,
2 things...
1. There were Apache Roadshows in Shanghai in 2010 and 2011.
2. I am glad to see your enthusiasm of forming/creating organization. But
the ASF and many other open source projects are not command&control driven
top-down structures. So, there is very little "need" for "creation of
t;
> 发送时间: 2015/11/21 13:09
> 收件人: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> 主题: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community
>
> Hi Apache Community Development PMC,
>
> Wish to get some advices on how to form a community of Apache fans in
&
s and communications.
Ted
发件人: Ted Liu<mailto:t...@microsoft.com>
发送时间: 2015/11/21 13:09
收件人: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
主题: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community
Hi Apache Community Development
Hi Apache Community Development PMC,
Wish to get some advices on how to form a community of Apache fans in China.
Would a new China-specific project at the ComDev be possible? Please see the
background and thoughts outlined below.
Apache projects and technologies have been widely adopted in Chi
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