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> Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache
> China Community
> There are many Chinese in ASF community who could help on this, We could
> engage them to help review.
> Count me as one:
Sure.
Ted
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ok, waiting for y
t we are hoping for. I'd also like to become a committer
> > of
> > > comdev to review and to be able to edit the content.
> >
> > > Ted
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> > >
r 26, 2015 5:43 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
There are many Chinese in ASF community who could help on this, We could engage
them to help review.
Count me as one:-)
Thanks.
Luke
Best Reg
o edit the content.
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
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Yes, that's what we are hoping for. I'd also like to become a committer of
comdev to review and to be able to edit the content.
Ted
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As said earlier, this would greatly
> inspire the communities and devs here.
>
> Ted
>
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15/11/25 8:38
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I don't exactly know what you mean by "crowd-source the tasks to the OSS
community in China": currently, you must be Apach
end to a Chinese
> committer to proofread and edit the site.
>
> Ted
>
> 发件人: Hervé BOUTEMY<mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr>
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can't do it
alone, they need support. That support should come from here.
-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:12 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful
>discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that
>engagement. It wouldn't look all that much different than the usual
>English
It won't be a community if people are unable to follow the
discussions. I think that it would be fine to handle user@ traffic in
whatever language, but we need to enforce English as the language of
community decision making.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> My apologies if misunderstood from Ted Dunning's earlier comment: " I was
> a mentor on kylin and worried about English being a problem for
> contribution. The real problem is that apache is partially defined by the
> use of
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Hi Ted L,
I don't think "elites" is good idea here:) we just work very hard to
learn the Apache Way, to engage world wide community and develop our
project for people really need.
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then IMHO some chinese speaking people should start writing a little
introduction on
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=community.apache
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Lei Chang wrote:
> There are about 5 million college graduates each year in China, and i think
> there is
> a great potential to increase the number of contributors from Apache
> community in China.
Speaking of which: do you know what's
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> used by 500M
d.dunn...@gmail.com>
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> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu <t...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
Understood.
Ted
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On Sat, Nov 21, 201
an [mailto:luke...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:08 PM
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> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
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> >>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of
Exactly, it's more than just content translation. Ted
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From: Luke Han [mailto:luke...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:18 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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One more
Ted,
My further comments are in-line. Your explanation is helping understand
what your goals are.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> Hi Ted, Yes, we want to establish a bridge or a group (if the idea of
> "China Community" seemed to be intimidating or
com]
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Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
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>>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin
>>incubation
project and trust that
Han<mailto:luke...@gmail.com>
Sent: 11/21/2015 6:17 AM
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One more important thing I would like to emphasize here is there are
@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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thinking more about it
Imagine:
- a few localized pages in
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=community.apache.org=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com
> Chinese-originated projects like Kylin. So the localization priority is
> obvious.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:33 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhma
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> used by 500M Wechat chatters on daily basis to acquire/learn information.
> This is a very effective China-specific scenario.
>
Note that you can use
ation is an unknown that younger generation
> > > contributors would not tolerate.
> > >
> > > The more challenging part is the culture differences where the sense of
> > > community, governance, contribution and the Apache Way are still at
> > > infant stage in Ch
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> China Community
>
> One more important thing I would like to emphasize here i
Got it. Will work with Sally for it. Ted
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From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:20 AM
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True that any
发件人: Roman Shaposhnik<mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org>
发送时间: 2015/11/22 2:43
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On Sat,
Localized content is a great suggestion.
-Original Message-
From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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I like the idea
Ross,
How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable
needs to maintain English as the language of apache with the need to allow
non-English speaking Chinese speakers to participate?
I can't.
To the extent that it is possible, I encourage English capable people
@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Localized content is a great suggestion.
-Original Message-
From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
here the proposed China community/group can
> contribute.
>
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Ap
re the proposed China community/group can
> > contribute.
> >
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
>
Phone
From: Ted Dunning<mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Sent: 11/21/2015 3:27 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org<mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
November 21, 2015 1:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org; nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Hi Niclas,
It'd be appreciated an open and constructive discussion can be formed at ASF
instead of labeling or stereotyping. The ask of fo
onsider what contents and a streamline user
> > experience. Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:00 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: RE:
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:46 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
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Why do those pioneers need a place outside
Lei, Thanks. Ted
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From: Lei Chang [mailto:chang.lei...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:17 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
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+1 for a formal community
: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
+1 for a formal community project in China.
There are some experiences I can share when some apache committers in China are
developing the community for Apache HAWQ (in incubation).
A wechat
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Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
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Ross,
How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable
needs to maintain English as the
Ted,
2 things...
1. There were Apache Roadshows in Shanghai in 2010 and 2011.
2. I am glad to see your enthusiasm of forming/creating organization. But
the ASF and many other open source projects are not command driven
top-down structures. So, there is very little "need" for "creation of
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