Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I don't think there's a better place for that transition than moving to 3.0, though. It's already a huge change with the CLI and plugins and the rest. Also one of the key advantages to splitting up the core into plugins is that we wanted to separate the permissions so that Cordova apps don't ask fo

Re: [cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
Permissions require more clever handling than naive XML injection. I'll be talking about that somewhat later. Permissions on Android need de-duping, and making sure that deleting one plugin that requires permission X doesn't remove that permission if another plugin still needs it. Braden On Sun,

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
+1 to killing WebSQL after we have IndexedDB support. It's no longer the standard and only exists in Webkit. The IndexedDB support doesn't exist at all in Android browser or iOS Safari though (a surprise to me, at least), according to caniuse.com[1] It isn't our job to maintain APIs that have been

Re: [plugman] universe and plugin version support needed

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
+1 to templates and a plugin creation command. I don't like the idea of the friction to switch to JSON - a big change to both tools and to our existing plugins - but I despise XML with the fury of a thousand suns. I would be happy to make the switch to JSON, for my plugins and in both tools. +1 to

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
A big +1 from me for this world, Michal's option 2. I want to be able to cordova create , and have it create an empty project where the app/ directory is the git repo. Then a full project might look like this: platforms/ android/ ios/ plugins/ ... app/ merges/ ... www

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread James Jong
+1 for app folder and cordova create I would like to see it support a git-URL or local. It's nice to have it all neatly in app/ but can also see arguments for having www/ as top-level. -James Jong On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > A big +1 from me for this world, Mi

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Lorin Beer
+1 for Geolocation Joe's reasoning is convincing: when native functionality exceeds/matches what were providing, what's the point? and a huge +1 for WebSQL, I believe W3C deprecated the spec in November 2011? 2010?! Being proactive about this and deprecating/re

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Simon MacDonald
The thing that worries me about killing our websql support is that we will get a situation where websql will be available on some versions of Android but not on others because we have removed our polyfil. Simon Mac Donald http://hi.im/simonmacdonald On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Lorin Beer

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Lorin Beer
it's a valid point, and I'm not too sure how to handle that. Deprecating our polyfill would be the obvious suggestion, but the whole point is to let these plugins die, not continue to include potentially broken/breakable code in future releases. How far back does WebSQL support go on Droid? On Mo

Re: Capture - specify video quality

2013-03-25 Thread James Jong
> > Is there some magic script to create all the sub issues for the platform? Fil added one recently in cordova-labs. See README.md here: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-labs.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/jira;hb=refs/heads/jira -James Jong On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Simon MacDon

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Simon MacDonald
Originally it was for the 1.x stream but we found out we needed it for some broken implementations of Android 3.0 and one of the Android 4.x versions as well. Simon Mac Donald http://hi.im/simonmacdonald On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Lorin Beer wrote: > it's a valid point, and I'm not too s

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
So, what if you want to version the ./platorms folder? I don't like it, but ppl will do. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:10 AM, James Jong wrote: > +1 for app folder and cordova create > I would like to see it support a git-URL or local. It's nice to have it all > neatly in app/ but can also see ar

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
(Btw this isn't a vote thread guys.) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > So, what if you want to version the ./platorms folder? I don't like > it, but ppl will do. > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:10 AM, James Jong wrote: >> +1 for app folder and cordova create >> I would like t

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Lorin Beer
hrm, that makes things trickier. Our deprecation policy is officially 3 releases now, yeah? It strikes me that the solution is to still deprecate WebSQL and push for IndexedDB support. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but deprecating WebSQL won't affect any releases out in the wild with the polyfi

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I think its useful for us to have the conversation, but lets not forget that we're going to be moving to this plugin reality so what gets supported and doesn't isn't as big of a deal. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lorin Beer wrote: > hrm, that makes things trickier. Our deprecation policy is o

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
+1 is still a handy means of displaying your support or otherwise. If you do want to version the platforms/ and plugins/ folders at the top level, you can do that. If you're versioning everything, then you should be checking out that master repo, rather than the master repo and then the app repo i

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Ok, let me try again. What is precisely problem we are solving by changing the structure? To be clear, I'm not really against or for it. I just don't understand why this is important. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > +1 is still a handy means of displaying your suppo

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
It allows easier cloning of your app (meaning the www, config.xml, and any samples and so on) into a self-contained directory. It also lets us keep the user's app within a single top-level directory (rather than www and merges and potentially more later). Because only the www (and merges) would ge

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Michal Mocny
We currently copy all of www/ into platform www/ so all those resources ship with the app. For that reason, ideally not all app resources go inside the www/ folder, such as we've already decided to take merges/ out (others are docs/ and sample/ etc). So packaging an app right now already involves

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
To be clear, I am certain we all agree, but this is the future. We're working towards that future. We simply have too many users to not build the transition path into our releases. Maybe 3.0 is that time. Four months to move everything to plugins only. We'll see if we make it. On Mon, Mar 25, 201

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
Four months? I thought we had agreed that 3.0 doesn't come after 2.9, it comes when we're ready. We can do 2.12 if we need to, or having 2.8 followed by 3.0. Is there some other timeline I don't know about? Braden On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > To be clear, I am certain

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
But, if you go up one level, the same is true w/ the current structure. Its just an organizational difference? (Thats a perfectly ok answer of course. Aesthetics and symmetry are plenty convincing arguments.) In my view ./merges isn't your app. The ./merges dir is in parts of your app on a per pla

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
No no. You must be mistaking us w/ the node project. We're shipping 3 in July yo. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > Four months? I thought we had agreed that 3.0 doesn't come after 2.9, it > comes when we're ready. We can do 2.12 if we need to, or having 2.8 > followed

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
The same is /not/ true of the current structure, because one (probably) doesn't want to be committing build artifacts like platforms/, or cached third-party data like plugins/ into your git repo. The idea here is that everything under app/ is what you would keep in git for a team working on an app

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Agree with Braden. It wouldn't be impossible to git ignore the cordova artifacts, so it does come down to aesthetics and simplicity. I don't agree that merges isn't your app, because if you've written to expect merges, your app won't work without it. config.xml inside www/ is the least of the ar

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
+1 to locking the CLI to a version +1 to the Grunt vision However, I'd like to propose a different approach to the CLI versioning and it can also solve the `create` command issue to help move towards a dumb global `cordova`. ## Cordova-CLI - npm version is still associated with a Cordova distrib

Re: [cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
> > +1 for ./platforms becoming a build artifact. I totally support this goal Braden. When we make the platforms/ a build artifact, I'd like to move the platforms directory to: /my-app/.cordova/platform/ Michael On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Michael Wolf wrote: > Agreed +1 > > On 3/22/13

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
>Hopefully, next time we will change/update these things it will be for a >real reason (such as SDK tools updates etc...) and not because we think >that there might be a better implementation in C#. To be absolutely clear, the above is NOT the motivation for changing this stuff around. Cordova-cl

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
While this might be our goal it is in no way true that ./platforms ia build artifact today or anytime soon. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > The same is /not/ true of the current structure, because one (probably) > doesn't want to be committing build artifacts like pl

Re: [cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I'm not sure about moving the platforms folder, build artifact or no, because one may be loading it in Eclipse/Xcode/etc. and burying it in a hidden folder makes the tools more magical. One of the other goals here is to make the tools magically convenient without becoming voodoo. That's the fundam

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
They are, right now, a kind of middle ground. If you rm -rf'd the directory, it wouldn't be all better on the next cordova prepare; that's where we hope to reach soon. On the other hand, you definitely shouldn't be having code in them - native or otherwise - that didn't come from a plugin or from

Re: docs commit: [CB-2305] Add documntation for InAppBrowser.executeScript and InAppBrowser.insertCSS APIs

2013-03-25 Thread Shazron
This is for 2.7.0 right? The feature is not in 2.6.0 so it shouldn't be in 2.6.0 docs. (the 2.6.x docs should branch off master before this commit since it hasn't been created yet) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM, wrote: > Updated Branches: > refs/heads/master a897edd1f -> 40eb8dedd > > > [CB

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Where does firefox os fit in in here? On 3/24/13 8:21 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >Thanks Steve! > >On Sunday, March 24, 2013, Steven Gill wrote: > >> Yup >> >> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: >> >> > Good enough for me. Steve you got that? >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9

Re: [cordova-cli] - config.xml handling: should that move into ./bin scripts?

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Righ so that becomes a plugman responsibility. This shiet's hard! On 3/25/13 7:17 AM, "Braden Shepherdson" wrote: >Permissions require more clever handling than naive XML injection. I'll be >talking about that somewhat later. Permissions on Android need de-duping, >and making sure that dele

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Gord Tanner
Firefoxos isn't shipped yet, I would also vote that it probably isn't ready to be included On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Where does firefox os fit in in here? > > On 3/24/13 8:21 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: > > >Thanks Steve! > > > >On Sunday, March 24, 2013, Steven Gill wr

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Steven Gill
I figure it is not ready to be included in the release yet. Maybe once we do more work on it + developer devices start getting shipped we can talk about including it in for exposure. -Steve On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > Where does firefox os fit in in here? > > On 3/24/13

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm going to guess 'too soon' given there are no platform scripts as of yet but leave that to Herm to qualify. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > Where does firefox os fit in in here? > > On 3/24/13 8:21 PM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: > >>Thanks Steve! >> >>On Sunday, March 24, 2013

Re: [cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Braden's got this, +1 On 3/25/13 11:20 AM, "Braden Shepherdson" wrote: >I'm not sure about moving the platforms folder, build artifact or no, >because one may be loading it in Eclipse/Xcode/etc. and burying it in a >hidden folder makes the tools more magical. > >One of the other goals here is to

Plugin development on BB10

2013-03-25 Thread Andrea Carlevato
Hello, can anybody tell me if it's possible to create Cordova BB10 plugins using native C++ code ? Thanks Andrea

Re: Plugin development on BB10

2013-03-25 Thread Bryan Higgins
Hi Andrea, Yes - you will need to write it as a JNEXT extension. You might find this template handy: https://github.com/blackberry/WebWorks-Community-APIs/tree/master/BB10/Template For now you will have to drop it into the ext folder of your webworks app, but we're working on aligning with the c

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
In seriousness I am excited! We get to talk about everything that happened this past year. (Lots.) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > Couldn't find the thread, but I also thought there we had discussed having > the 3.0 release == moving to CLI & having plugins separated. >

[windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Benn Mapes
Right now most of the scripts for windows phone except create are in /tooling/scripts/ and there are duplicate cordova folders in each template (/templates/*) folder with the emulate and debug scripts for deploying to emulator/device respectively. In light of the recent scripting discussion I woul

Re: [cordova-cli] vendoring the platforms instead of lazy download

2013-03-25 Thread Andrew Grieve
Couldn't find the thread, but I also thought there we had discussed having the 3.0 release == moving to CLI & having plugins separated. I know PhoneGap Day is in July, and I agree 3.0 for PGD is a great goal, but a major version number bump shouldn't indicate that time has elapsed. There should be

Re: Platform-level command line scripts ;)

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
> > To be absolutely clear, the above is NOT the motivation for changing this > stuff around. Cordova-cli needs consistency across platforms. This is the > motivation. Yep, as long as we can guarantee that each script follows a predictable input and output, I don't care how we implement it. If y

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Check out the other platforms. Things have "standardized" on ./bin/create and in a generated project ./cordova/*. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Benn Mapes wrote: > Right now most of the scripts for windows phone except create are in > /tooling/scripts/ > and there are duplicate cordova folders

Re: docs commit: [CB-2305] Add documntation for InAppBrowser.executeScript and InAppBrowser.insertCSS APIs

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Yes that makes sense. We can simply branch for 2.6.x before this commit, that would work in our process ya? On 3/25/13 11:28 AM, "Shazron" wrote: >This is for 2.7.0 right? The feature is not in 2.6.0 so it shouldn't be in >2.6.0 docs. (the 2.6.x docs should branch off master before this commit >

Re: [cordova-cli] - what does the plugins folder do?

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
> > One of the other goals here is to make the tools magically convenient > without becoming voodoo. That's the fundamental goal behind turning > platforms/ into a build artifact: then the answer to "what files in here > can I edit, and which ones get updated when I run ?" is an > easy, blanket ans

Re: docs commit: [CB-2305] Add documntation for InAppBrowser.executeScript and InAppBrowser.insertCSS APIs

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
Yea, the docs 2.6.x branch will happen before the above commit. Docs are typically tagged last, in case other platforms want to get in some last minutes updates. I've been waiting on Windows, but I can go ahead and create the branch now to avoid confusion. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Filip M

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
K. I'll update my jira helper script to a) axe firefox os from the "core"/default platforms and b) add cordova-mac. Thanks guys. On 3/25/13 11:43 AM, "Brian LeRoux" wrote: >I'm going to guess 'too soon' given there are no platform scripts as >of yet but leave that to Herm to qualify. > >On Mon,

Re: InAppBrowser support on BlackBerry & Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Tim Kim
Ok, I just checked on my blackberry z10. The close() function works but not events. It seems like there might be a way to get events working - I can get a reference to the object that window.open returns that includes the loadstart/loadstop/loaderror events, but can't get them to fire. On 23 Ma

[cordova-cli] Merges Directory

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
Just like to provide an alternative suggestion to the merges/ directory and here everyone's thoughts. While doing client work at Nitobi, each of our build scripts had similar functionality to merging platform-specific web assets. Below, I'll describe what I've experienced and make a suggestion on

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
I think the issue here is: how far do we want to dictate the project structure for a cordova-cli-generated app? Merges kind of "evolved" out of an actual user who needed a viable use case covered (thanks Michael Wolf!). It is where it is for really no reason other than "this is a good feature to h

Re: [cordova-cli] Merges Directory

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
I'm apprehensive about returning to a naming convention. In a larger app this would lead to a very cluttered dir. The other consideration for ./merges are other assets: icons, and splashscreens. (Which would then require 2x or something for retina/hdpi situations.) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:34

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Braden Shepherdson
I agree that this recreation is a goal, but I don't think moving plugins/ under app/ is the right way to do it. I think the right way to do it is to specify the plugin dependencies of the app in app/. Currently that means in the documentation or a script, in the future probably in config.xml. Bra

device motion plugin

2013-03-25 Thread Steven Gill
Hey All, Last week I did some work around pulling out the Accelerometer plugin from the cordova-android code and setting up how the plugin repo would look. I have gone ahead and pushed my work onto the newly created device motion repo ( https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-plugin-devi

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Really like this. It a) slims down the cli tools by lazy loading the libraries as they are needed and b) solves the upgrade/downgrade story, since eventually you'll be able to simply change the version of the cordova npm dependency at a project-level. The only "downside" (not really) is that every

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
We already have established spots for scripts. Global scripts: cordova-/bin/create cordova-/bin/check_reqs (in the works) Project-level scripts: Myapp/cordova Myapp/cordova/lib (soon to come) On 3/25/13 1:38 PM, "Benn Mapes" wrote: >Right now most of the scripts for windows phone except cre

Question about the Globalization APi

2013-03-25 Thread Ray Camden
This possibly falls into the category of something that should be on the Google group (and actually I did ask there too ;) but I think it also exposes something not documented very well and maybe this discussion can lead to something that can be added to the docs. I've worked with the Globalizatio

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Precisely! I thought plugin dependancies for apps was already on the roadmap. Is that request still debatable? On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Braden Shepherdson wrote: > I agree that this recreation is a goal, but I don't think moving plugins/ > under app/ is the right way to do it. > > I th

Re: [cordova-cli] versioning

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
With respect to the lazy-loading suggestion, I know Brian has raised the offline scenario on a previous thread. At install time of the CLI (`npm install -g cordova`), we can lazy-load all platforms and sample app(s) for a given version. At install time of the CLI as a library (`npm install cordov

Re: InAppBrowser support on BlackBerry & Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Andrew Grieve
Awesome. So the docs should be updated to say that BB supports close(). Jesse - do you know if WP supports IAB? On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Tim Kim wrote: > Ok, I just checked on my blackberry z10. > > The close() function works but not events. It seems like there might be a > way to get

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Not at all, I think it would be a great feature to land. Agree that specifying dependencies in the app manifest, config.xml currently, is the way to go. I'm trying to organize the goal/direction of moving to this approach in my head together with all the other moves we are making. Keeping the obj

Re: Moving www into an app folder

2013-03-25 Thread Michal Mocny
Thanks Fil. Theres a long list of feature requests we've just pushed on y'all so I understand. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Not at all, I think it would be a great feature to land. > > Agree that specifying dependencies in the app manifest, config.xml > currently, is the

Re: device motion plugin

2013-03-25 Thread Andrew Grieve
I feel pretty strongly that we shouldn't try to shove this in for 2.6.0. Regressions only at this point (since the branches have been cut). Excited to see progress here though! by namespace - are you referring to Java namespaces? or plugin IDs? To answer your question about the JS, refer to this

Re: InAppBrowser support on BlackBerry & Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Shazron
I think Jesse is away - but: 1. https://github.com/apache/cordova-wp8/commit/d9bd6abece9821201b2784799337430d29247035 2. https://github.com/apache/cordova-wp7/commit/2a94c1279d929191857ebb2fefca00359823d3ea ... seems to suggest it is supported on WP7 and WP8. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM, A

Re: device motion plugin

2013-03-25 Thread Shazron
I don't think it should go in for 2.6.0 as well, for the already mentioned reasons. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > I feel pretty strongly that we shouldn't try to shove this in for 2.6.0. > Regressions only at this point (since the branches have been cut). > > Excited t

Re: InAppBrowser support on BlackBerry & Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Jesse MacFadyen
Yes, they do. Cheers, Jesse Sent from my iPhone5 On 2013-03-25, at 3:27 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: Awesome. So the docs should be updated to say that BB supports close(). Jesse - do you know if WP supports IAB? On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Tim Kim wrote: > Ok, I just checked on my bla

Re: InAppBrowser support on BlackBerry & Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Jesse MacFadyen
The docs should be a strong suggestion as well. Cheers, Jesse Sent from my iPhone5 On 2013-03-25, at 4:05 PM, Shazron wrote: I think Jesse is away - but: 1. https://github.com/apache/cordova-wp8/commit/d9bd6abece9821201b2784799337430d29247035 2. https://github.com/apache/cordova-wp7/commit/

RE: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Herm Wong
firefox os definitely isn't ready yet; we still need to implement more APIs and I'm still working with Mozilla on improving CLI support. > From: f...@adobe.com > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:11:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: 2.6 platform support and redux > > K. I'll update m

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Tommy-Carlos Williams
RE: Geolocation… wouldn't moving to the browser implementation lead to a sub par experience when (as I have mentioned) the end user is asked for permission (in iOS as an example)? I really wouldn't want users of my apps to have a dialog pop up telling them that "index.html" wants something :)

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Benn Mapes
I could be reading your responses wrong but, this does not answer my proposal, maybe I wasn't clear enough. For the windows platform there are multiple templates, there is the full template which includes a dll of the cordovaLib(native code) and a standalone template which uses the source code. R

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
In this particular case Joe was just speaking about Android. On 3/25/13 5:45 PM, "Tommy-Carlos Williams" wrote: >RE: GeolocationŠ wouldn't moving to the browser implementation lead to a >sub par experience when (as I have mentioned) the end user is asked for >permission (in iOS as an example)? >

App-Harness Description

2013-03-25 Thread Andrew Grieve
Hey Michael (and anyone else interested), I've written up a requirements doc for this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14LG1IiEiQ9npc2RmPo5_UEKQTfsg-3ivJu7R2iPBmsw/edit?usp=sharing It's a bit biased towards hosting Chrome Apps, but I think the majority of the app will be generic. The chrome b

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Tommy-Carlos Williams
Ah. Then I'll shut up ;) On 26/03/2013, at 11:56 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > In this particular case Joe was just speaking about Android. > > On 3/25/13 5:45 PM, "Tommy-Carlos Williams" wrote: > >> RE: GeolocationŠ wouldn't moving to the browser implementation lead to a >> sub par experience when

Re: 2.6 platform support and redux

2013-03-25 Thread Marcel Kinard
FYI, my employer does use Windows 8 for our product. So thank you, Jesse! -- Marcel Kinard On Mar 24, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Jesse MacFadyen wrote: > +1 for windows 8 > > Cheers, > Jesse

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-25 Thread Marcel Kinard
Would it make sense to add these new repos to the list on http://cordova.apache.org? The intent is to encourage contributions. I'd be fine to do that, but wanted to get a sanity check on that first. -- Marcel On Mar 22, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > https://issues.apache.org/jira/b

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
> > Would it make sense to add these new repos to the list on > http://cordova.apache.org? The intent is to encourage contributions. I'd > be fine to do that, but wanted to get a sanity check on that first. I think that makes sense. Originally, we tried to keep platforms on the left column and s

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Yes sounds good. Most other platforms implement it in this way: - Android's create script [1] uses a templates folder [2] that it makes copies of on-create, which contains (among other things) the cordova folder [3]. - Blackberry does a similar thing [4] - so does iOS [5] [1] https://github.com/a

[Feature Request] Shell script hooks should receive the project's root directory as an argument

2013-03-25 Thread Kerri Shotts
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like there's any (simple) way to get the project's root directory if the hook is a shell script. When I echo $#, I have 0 incoming arguments, and so my script is currently limited to throwing an error if the cordova-cli isn't executed from an expected

Re: [Feature Request] Shell script hooks should receive the project's root directory as an argument

2013-03-25 Thread Filip Maj
Good call, should be easy to add. On 3/25/13 8:54 PM, "Kerri Shotts" wrote: >Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't look like there's any (simple) >way to get the project's root directory if the hook is a shell script. >When I echo $#, I have 0 incoming arguments, and so my script is >currently

Re: Plugin Repos Created!

2013-03-25 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hate to 'make work' but we might want to drop a README in them explaining what is supposed to go there (maybe a link to plugman) and the mailing list before we open those up to speculation. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Michael Brooks wrote: >> >> Would it make sense to add these new repos to

Re: [Android] Plugins to send on the ice flows to die

2013-03-25 Thread Shazron
Mmm ice floes (9m21s in): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKh0P9o6y18&t=9m21s On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams wrote: > Ah. Then I'll shut up ;) > > > On 26/03/2013, at 11:56 AM, Filip Maj wrote: > > > In this particular case Joe was just speaking about Android. > > > > On

Re: [windows] Scripts for Windows Phone

2013-03-25 Thread Benn Mapes
Yah, the difference is that Windows Phone has multiple of these templates so that's why i wanted to pull the cordova folder it out. Sounds like we're on the same page now so i'll go ahead and do that. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Filip Maj wrote: > Yes sounds good. Most other platforms imp