Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-20 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Peter, voting was closed and now project is called "Royale" (see vote results thread) Thanks for share your thoughts! Carlos 2017-09-20 9:30 GMT+02:00 Peter Ginneberge : > > I kept repeating "Bead" over and over in my head and all of a sudden > turned it into "Beadle", which I think has a mu

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-20 Thread Peter Ginneberge
I kept repeating "Bead" over and over in my head and all of a sudden turned it into "Beadle", which I think has a much nicer ring to it. Then looked it up and apparently it's an existing word (didn't think it was, but then again, English isn't my native language). Beadle: sometimes spelled

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
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Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
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Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Erik de Bruin
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Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
> > > 2017-09-19 20:38 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J >: > > > >> Apache Bob... > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM > >> To: dev

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, 2017-09-19 20:59 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui : > > That's why I'm concerned about Royale when there is a GitHub project > called Royale that is a "A React-esque framework for Javascript". Think > of it this way. If you did a search on GitHub for our project name and > didn't realize we were a

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Dave Fisher
com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork >> >> Ick… >> >> Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) >> >> Harbs >> >>> On Sep 1

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Looks like a conflict to me. Regards, Dave > On Sep 19, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Harbs wrote: > > Helix is nice. > > Possible conflict: > http://www.helixsdk.org/ > >> On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:40 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> "Braid" also b

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Ent
I swear all the good names are already taken. I think we just need to throw letters into a box and shake them at this point. ‹peter On 9/19/17, 3:48 PM, "Harbs" wrote: >Helix is nice. > >Possible conflict: >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.helixs >dk.org%2F&dat

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
Helix is nice. Possible conflict: http://www.helixsdk.org/ > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:40 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > wrote: > >> >> > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there >>> are > any projects that use "Helix" which I'm

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
> > >> > > >> > > "Braid" also brings to mind "Helix". I haven't looked to see if there >> are >> > > any projects that use "Helix" which I'm sure there are. And if so, >> maybe >> > > "Felix" to give a nod back to Flex along with the helix. >> > > >> > > —peter >> > I love Helix. It actually desc

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Dave Fisher
t;>>>>> On Sep 19, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Alex Harui >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close down >>>>>> the >>>>>>&g

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
have a name for tomorrow. >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Dave Fisher
; HTH, >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we >>>>> just >>>>> grab that name - I

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
probably > > >> vote for Royale just so we have a name for tomorrow. > > >> > > >> HTH, > > >> -Alex > > >> > > >> On 9/19/17, 11:43 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> I

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Andrew Wetmore
t; >> > >>> I checked Braid on github and found [1]. It was quite popular - can we > >>> just > >>> grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks > >>> implications. > >>> > >>> [1] > &

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
st >>> grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks >>> implications. >>> >>> [1] >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>> o >>> m%2Fcristibalan%2Fbraid&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5ebf2328120

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
e > >>just > >>grab that name - I still do not understand fully those trademarks > >>implications. > >> > >>[1] > >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= > https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c > >>o > >>m%2Fcristibalan%2F

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Ent
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Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
nal Message----- >> From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM >> To: dev@flex.apache.org >> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork >> >> Ick… >> >> Why do these things

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
19, 2017 2:20 PM > To: dev@flex.apache.org > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > > Ick… > > Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) > > Harbs > >> On Sep 19, 2017, at 8:58 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> There are any numbe

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
inal Message- > From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM > To: dev@flex.apache.org > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > > Ick… > > Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) > > Harbs >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
Apache Bob... -Original Message- From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork Ick… Why do these things have to be so complicated? ;-) Harbs > On Sep

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close down >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are ok with

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
7:34 PM, Alex Harui >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We don't have time for another vote thread. We need to close down >>>>> the >>>>>>>> vote tonight or early tomorrow morning. So, if you are

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
nique spelling stand out from search >>>>>> results, >>>>>>> but first, you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell >>> checker >>>>> is >>>>>>> constantly changing. >>>>>>> >>&g

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Dave Fisher
gt; results, >>>>>> but first, you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell >> checker >>>> is >>>>>> constantly changing. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/19/17,

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Andrew Wetmore
you have to remember how to spell it, and my spell > checker > > > is > > > > > constantly changing. > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > On 9/19/17, 5:05 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" < > mark.kessler....@usmc.mi

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
5 AM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve letter > > changes > > > >> to the name. > > > >> > > > >> > > &

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
t; > > > wrote: > > > > > >> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve letter > changes > > >> to the name. > > >> > > >> > > >> -Mark K > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >&g

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
> wrote: > > > >> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve letter changes > >> to the name. > >> > >> > >> -Mark K > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] > &g

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
rk J" > wrote: > >> If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve letter changes >> to the name. >> >> >> -Mark K >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesda

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
l Message- >From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM >To: dev@flex.apache.org >Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > >Hi, > >It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on githu

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Hi Rui, You can vote in our VOTE thread. Community vote is important. Pickup three names, propose yours one. Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-19 16:06 GMT+02:00 Rui Cruz : > I like > > cruzer.io (implies fast robust) > > 2017-09-19 14:50 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > > > Hi, > > > > sorry to not agree with

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Rui Cruz
I like cruzer.io (implies fast robust) 2017-09-19 14:50 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > Hi, > > sorry to not agree with Limbyr (or limber), but the concept and name > doesn't sound good to me. Although I see the intention behind. > > For me a name should be as direct as possible, that substitution o

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Consider what Dave mention I agree with Carlos. Although I like Lymbir idea we should not go into that name having such issues. We have still 9 hours of voting and I'm thinking to change my VOTE cause Beads sound to me ok, but it seems to be less powerful. Conversation on users group seems to be al

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, sorry to not agree with Limbyr (or limber), but the concept and name doesn't sound good to me. Although I see the intention behind. For me a name should be as direct as possible, that substitution of "e" with "y" was something used a decade or so ago to get 2.0 names for the internet, but to

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Tom Chiverton
I read that as Limb Buyer. As in organ trafficking, Let's not :) Tom On 19/09/17 13:05, Kessler CTR Mark J wrote: to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally.

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Keep in mind - (1) As an Apache project the URL is limbyr.apache.org (Apple mail auto-correct me to limber) (2) If independent people may hear about limbyr and type in or be auto-corrected to limber.com . We really don’t want anyone in a corporation going to an adult

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
If limber wins, a simple discussion thread should resolve letter changes to the name. -Mark K -Original Message- From: Piotr Zarzycki [mailto:piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:52 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Hi, It has advantage of having the name which do not exist on github. Let say that Limber with win in the voting - We probably have to open another VOTE to have "Limbyr" - Which I like personally. Is it enough that PMCs agreed here with changing Limber to Limbyr here ? Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-1

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Harbs
Finding names which have not yet been “taken” is tough… ;-) Unusual spellings also have an advantage in search. I like Limbyr. Harbs > On Sep 19, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > I was looking into various spellings of Limber because just about every > name we came up with is already

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-19 Thread Alex Harui
I was looking into various spellings of Limber because just about every name we came up with is already on GitHub: limber.com is an adult site limber.org is an observatory limber.io is about marketing royale.com is about ticket sales royale.org is about dogs royale.io is owned by somebo

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-18 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Carlos, You are right, I'm sorry if my tone was to harsh! Too much storm lately around all of this. I hope soon we will have better weather. :) Best Piotr! 2017-09-18 13:26 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira : > Hi Piotr, > > I think people could pick "Beads" as one of his options. We're all free to > cho

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-18 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Piotr, I think people could pick "Beads" as one of his options. We're all free to choose whatever we want. But I think this DISCUSS thread is very useful as well to express why this or that option should be considered for people voting Thanks 2017-09-18 11:54 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki : > T

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-18 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
That's why we have VOTE thread, anyone can express their needs by picking up some options. Encourage everyone for voting! Let's have it done! Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-18 11:48 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira : > I agree with Om, that naming a project with one of the features is not a > good strategy in m

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-18 Thread Carlos Rovira
I agree with Om, that naming a project with one of the features is not a good strategy in marketing terms. Beads-Strand is a good feature that said a lot about the compositing nature behind it, and something very relevant in FlexJS, but not should be its identifier. There's much more in our techno

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
One point of clarification. The Beads concept comes into play only in the FlexJS SDK and not in the Flex Falcon or FalconJX compiler. Some day it could be FalconWebAssemby or FalconIOS. Naming the Apache project as Beads means that we are highlighting only the SDK and not the cross-compilers. A

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
Yes, the multiples make more sense. The project name can be Beads, and we can have multiple products, each a Bead and play with that. Or Strand(s) and have the Bead(s) be the products. Fun! EdB On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > Not sure what are you asking. I should p

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Not sure what are you asking. I should probably use Beads instead Bead in the VOTE. Do you think that list should be updated with Bead -> Beads Strand -> Strands Piotr 2017-09-17 21:38 GMT+02:00 Harbs : > Question: > > In the vote, is it for the exact name? For example “Beadz” and “Limbre” > s

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Harbs
Question: In the vote, is it for the exact name? For example “Beadz” and “Limbre” seem to be much less used than “Beads” and “Limber”. Thanks, Harbs > On Sep 17, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Carlos Rovira > wrote: > > Hi > > I think it would be good to start that vote thread with some possibilities. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi I think it would be good to start that vote thread with some possibilities. I think we should put the three most wanted over ten, since is what we should found in some election systems. We get to the final stage the most popular ones to vote. I think if we put ten options we'll end with a diffi

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Erik de Bruin
Royale: 710 repos match Royale on Github. One, https://github.com/ian-culleton/royale is a "React-esque framework for Javascript" That is a little close to home... EdB On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > A quick "suitable name search" on some other candidates: > > Braid: 26

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Harbs
Hi Piotr, If you can start it that would be great. I’m very limited in time today. Thanks, Harbs > On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Piotr Zarzycki > wrote: > > I can start the VOTE within 12H cause I don't see anything against. If > someone can start earlier that would be great. > > Proposed ti

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
I can start the VOTE within 12H cause I don't see anything against. If someone can start earlier that would be great. Proposed title: [VOTE] What should be new project name for proposed fork of FlexJS? List Description of VOTE from Harbs. VOTE itself: 1) Name +1 (Binding) 2) Second Proposal 3)

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-17 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Let's bring together the most mentioned from this thread and start a VOTE by Harbs's system. Let it be max 10 props. Piotr On Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 08:26 Alex Harui wrote: > BOJA also was/is software-related: > https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00143947 > > Again, not a deal-killer. One

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Alex Harui
BOJA also was/is software-related: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00143947 Again, not a deal-killer. One question that came to mind is whether we'd spend too much time explaining why we called the project BOJA. That got me thinking of it as an acronym as well. Or maybe a new projec

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Alex Harui
To be clear, none of my findings are deal killers for the proposed name. BOJA is the stock symbol for Bojangles Inc. A chain of fried chicken restaurants. Wiktionary defined variants of boja [1]. What did you say you thought it meant? Boja has 163 matches on Github, but I didn't see an exact mat

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Harbs
> On Sep 17, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > A quick "suitable name search" on some other candidates: > > Braid: 260 repos match with Braid on Github. There is a project call > BraidApps. Could pose some confusion since we produce apps. > > Strand: 697 repos match Strand on Github.

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Alex Harui
A quick "suitable name search" on some other candidates: Braid: 260 repos match with Braid on Github. There is a project call BraidApps. Could pose some confusion since we produce apps. Strand: 697 repos match Strand on Github. First match was https://github.com/MediaMath/strand. It is a "c

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Alex Harui
I mentioned STeVe but after reading this [1][2], I withdraw that suggestion as I think STV is intended for choosing multiple from multiple instead of one of multiple. (I did not read all of [2]). My takeaway is that, unless a true majority results, the results of other system can be challenged.

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Harbs
I like this one. Harbs > On Sep 16, 2017, at 11:31 PM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > > Braid (bunch of strands, right?)

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Harbs
To me it seems like overkill for our needs, but if someone wants to try and make it work I have no objection. Harbs > On Sep 16, 2017, at 11:45 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala > wrote: > > Someone up thread mentioned that Apache STeVe could be used for this. > > https://steve.apache.org/vote_types.h

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > One way I was thinking about a vote was by allowing everyone to pick up to > three options. Option 1 would count for 3 points, option 2 for 2 and option > 3 for 1. > Excellent idea! EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Someone up thread mentioned that Apache STeVe could be used for this. https://steve.apache.org/vote_types.html Thanks, Om On Sep 16, 2017 1:22 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" wrote: Hi Harbs, Nice idea. It allows picking up for anyone couple of options. Piotr On Sat, Sep 16, 2017, 21:57 Harbs wrote:

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Andrew Wetmore
Nsurgent Deliver Carrier Braid (bunch of strands, right?) On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > Royale, in my part of the world, is a low-grade line of processed food > products: styrofoam-flavored ice cream, and so on. > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Piotr Zarzycki

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Andrew Wetmore
Royale, in my part of the world, is a low-grade line of processed food products: styrofoam-flavored ice cream, and so on. On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > Hi Harbs, > > Nice idea. It allows picking up for anyone couple of options. > > Piotr > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017, 21:57

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Hi Harbs, Nice idea. It allows picking up for anyone couple of options. Piotr On Sat, Sep 16, 2017, 21:57 Harbs wrote: > I’m not sure why, but Royale does not resonate very well with me. > > Bend Bead and Strand are all good names as far as I’m concerned. > > I personally like Limber/Limbre. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-16 Thread Harbs
I’m not sure why, but Royale does not resonate very well with me. Bend Bead and Strand are all good names as far as I’m concerned. I personally like Limber/Limbre. I like Boinga in a different way. I think that Böja has a great ring to it. One way I was thinking about a vote was by allowing ev

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

2017-09-15 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, I think the plan should be as you said. Must be in part, to a controlled search and replace by all the files, and setup repos in right order. Maybe some running process will need to be redone, as I didn't put my hands on that, I think can't help in that particular field, but as I mention,

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

2017-09-15 Thread Andrew Wetmore
I did a quick look through licenses and this does not seem to be the problem I thought it might be. I would be glad to help with documentation migration when we get to that point. On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > I think our licenses don't mention project or pr

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Andrew, I think our licenses don't mention project or product names since it is all under Apache, but if you have time to help with checking on that we'd certainly appreciate it. Thanks, -Alex On 9/15/17, 10:51 AM, "Andrew Wetmore" wrote: >Would the text of licenses and suchlike fall into t

RE: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
/s DNF SDK - Definitely Not Flash SDK YAAS SDK - Yet Another ActionScript SDK :P -Mark K -Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:31 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS

Re: Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

2017-09-15 Thread Andrew Wetmore
Would the text of licenses and suchlike fall into the documentation task? That is a task I have done several times with software companies and would be glad to help out with, given that it does not require much code expertise to make sure the sentences are coherent and refer to the current product

Renaming Work (Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork)

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
In this thread, let's see if we can list out what needs to be done to rename the code. I think for the ActionScript code, the steps are: 1) go through each folder in framework/projects and do: git mv src/main/flex src/main/royale git mv src/main/flex/org/apache/flex src/main/flex/org/apache

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Yishay Weiss
> For migration : As a customer, I don't think migration is a real option. I can’t say I agree with that. The business logic is almost seamlessly ported. The UI is more involved but still pretty similar. Also, most examples one sees these days are using the Basic component set. I can envision

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
Dave says, and I agree, that if there is more than one candidate, we might need to use a more complicated voting system like STeVe. What other suggestions do you think have been popular enough to make a second candidate? I think FlexJS has been rejected as the project name. If anyone wants to pus

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > Definitely the were the most support for Royale. +1 for starting vote > YES/NO. We could express in the VOTE thread that anyone can shot his own > name idea and others can give him +1. > There were several suggestions, some of which we cou

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Definitely the were the most support for Royale. +1 for starting vote YES/NO. We could express in the VOTE thread that anyone can shot his own name idea and others can give him +1. Piotr On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 18:39 Piotr Zarzycki wrote: > As Alex said I also didn't answer for any single email f

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
As Alex said I also didn't answer for any single email from someone who would like to start from scratch app or even would be new Flex world. We may get such people in the future, but we need to go with path where first target will be ports the old one applications. As for the bad press - 4 years

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Erik de Bruin
> > have a problem if someone created a runtime we wanted to target called > "Dover". > Are you testing the non-native speakers? I spilt some of my coffee over that one ;-) EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Carlos, I agree with Piotr. Retaining your ActionScript business logic instead of the risk of porting it to a less structured language is one of the original premises behind FlexJS. I could be wrong, but I think all of the emails I've answered about FlexJS in the past months are from people l

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
ware.nl] >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:26 PM >To: dev@flex.apache.org >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > >BendForward... > >(just kidding!) > >EdB >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Alex Harui
sler CTR Mark J" wrote: >I actually spilt some coffee on this one. Lol > >-Mark K > >-Original Message- >From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] >Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:26 PM >To: dev@flex.apache.org >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork > >BendForward... > >(just kidding!) > >EdB >

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Carlos, Love your passion and share it fully. I cannot fully agree with you that having an old application in Flex people will need to rewrite completely. If they have separated enough good logic - they can put it without to much effort in our framework. - That is huge advantage in my opinion. Vo

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, I'm with Om and others that one of the results we pursue with this renaming is to avoid the "Flex" name. We talked about the problems we have today with clients when "Flex" is put in a discussion. You pay in terms of credibility to your client. For migration : As a customer, I don't think mig

RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
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RE: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Kessler CTR Mark J
I actually spilt some coffee on this one. Lol -Mark K -Original Message- From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:26 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork BendForward... (just kidding!) EdB

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Olaf Krueger
Could we try to summarize all name proposals in order to build a single post that contains all candidates (project names) before voting? I think it's not so easy to extract all naming ideas from the different threads/posts, I just remember a few. What do you think of just creating a list of previou

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Harbs, Agree to start another vote simultaneously. We have gathered proposition in this email chain, if you could get all of them. VOTE could look like that: +1 (Name from the list) +1 (My proposition) Does this sound ok ? I'm looking into the code what would be the impact changing all the reso

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Olaf Krueger
Another idea to get out the naming dilemma could be to find a name for the new project that still contains 'flex' but don't let you think of flex when you read it the first time, e.g.: ... Inflexion Flexor Flexure ... Just a Scrabble exercise... ;-) So people might be less confused if they find

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Harbs
I agree. Let’s finish the vote on the project name and we can discuss the product (or products) name(s) later. I think we should start the vote on the new name options. I’m not sure what the best format of such a vote should be. We need a culled list of options and way of tallying up opinions.

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Olaf Krueger
Hi, This was posted by Chris at the [VOTE] thread >and I know what getting rid of "flex" everywhere inside the project would mean regarding refactoring and >tool support. I thought that for now we just vote for a new project name in order to get rid of the word 'Flex' within the Apache project na

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-15 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
I'm willing to change my VOTE to Yes if there will be no help from Carlos if we will have Project Name: Royale, but ship product name: FlexJS. Sorry but we really have to have real help if it is even going to happen. Thanks, Piotr 2017-09-15 8:36 GMT+02:00 Olaf Krueger : > >So same product but m

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-14 Thread Olaf Krueger
>So same product but marketed with two different names? I think this is what we see in the real world all the time: Identical products are optimized (under different names) for local markets or special target groups to satisfy the needs of consumers. Sounds like a reasonable way to reach as many

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-14 Thread Alex Harui
It may not be the same bits. I think it would be two different packages. There might be different defaults, there is no need for Flash Builder support in the product that isn't called FlexJS so we may not ship those files or mention Flash Builder in the doc. -Alex On 9/14/17, 11:01 PM, "Harbs"

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-14 Thread Harbs
So same product but marketed with two different names? Kind of odd, but an interesting approach. It might have merit. I’d like to sit on this idea. I’m not yet sure how I feel about it. Harbs > On Sep 15, 2017, at 3:04 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > This is why I proposed what I did last night: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-14 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
For me it is definitly start like a plan. It would be good in the vote mention that we may stay with FlexJS name as an Product - To be discussed - even voted. Thoughts? Piotr On Fri, Sep 15, 2017, 00:36 Harbs wrote: > Unless there are objections, I propose we continue the vote for the > projec

Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork

2017-09-14 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
I believe that's the idea which we should bring into the new project. Let's be really specific about that on our page and we will not loose anything. I would like to hear more whether Carlos in that shape would like to still help with that by creating website etc. I really don't want to put an mi

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