Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow. Ferdinand Ferdinand Soethe wrote: OK, this all being explained, I now propose to move the views workshop to Monday night for four reasons: 1. Nicola Ken will

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow. I have our new Events web page almost finished. I will get that published too. --David

Re: locationmapped resources

2005-06-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tim Williams wrote: I've got resources in resources.xmap looking at locationmap now. I haven't done it for any non-image resource though.Should the following matches be resolvable through locationmaps too? I can't off the top of my head think of any reason why not but thought it important

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread Johannes Schaefer
I tried to check back with Peter if Monday is OK, too. Give me time until tomorrow 12:00 MEST to get through to him. Thanks! Johannes Ferdinand Soethe schrieb: Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow.

Re: matching order for image resources

2005-06-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tim Williams wrote: I'm struggling determining whether the matching order of images can be different from xml specifically with respect to locationmaps. Should images *always* resolve through locationmaps as a last resort the same as xml? We should have two locationmaps: Forrest's and the

Re: [views] forrest:contracts - naming convention

2005-06-09 Thread Diwaker Gupta
Diwaker asked me once about the naming conventions the contracts should follow. I believe I never gave you an answer. no problemas :) Now leather-dev is based on this contracts. I reckon you can remember the discussion about leather/scale-dev where we agreed that the designer needs design

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread Johannes Schaefer
I got the OK from Peter for Monday! So, please go ahead with the announcements and events page. Johannes Johannes Schaefer schrieb: I tried to check back with Peter if Monday is OK, too. Give me time until tomorrow 12:00 MEST to get through to him. Thanks! Johannes Ferdinand Soethe

[jira] Commented: (FOR-530) [views] New contract; compliance-links

2005-06-09 Thread Diwaker Gupta (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-530?page=comments#action_12313137 ] Diwaker Gupta commented on FOR-530: --- There's a small improvement in the compliance-links contract -- basically the CSS validator was not using the referer field to

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Johannes Schaefer wrote: I got the OK from Peter for Monday! So, please go ahead with the announcements and events page. Johannes Thanks very much to Johannes and Peter. So that is two events at HfT Monday evening and Wednesday evening, plus your usability professionals meeting on Tuesday

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread Johannes Schaefer
for tue i already sent a link for mon and wed we can decide shorthand Peter said. js (leaving office NOW) David Crossley schrieb: Johannes Schaefer wrote: I got the OK from Peter for Monday! So, please go ahead with the announcements and events page. Johannes Thanks very much to Johannes

i18n the URL Space (Re: more locationmap questions)

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Ross Gardler wrote: Tim Williams wrote: The way I understand it we're not depending on LinkRewriterTransformer to resolve lm links so I don't understand why adding it to it's schemes could help? ... See the demo for the locationmap in fresh-site (locationmap branch obviously). There is an

Re: sitemap ?issues?.. maybe..

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Tim Williams wrote: I apologize up front for being a pest while you guys are prepping for the release but... No worries. Development continues on. You are not being a pest, far from it. Thanks anyway for being so considerate. Quite right, I am finding Tims help

[jira] Commented: (FOR-530) [views] New contract; compliance-links

2005-06-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-530?page=comments#action_12313146 ] Juan Jose Pablos commented on FOR-530: -- done. ( we need to give a hand to Thorsten with your patches diwaker) [views] New contract; compliance-links

Re: release plan for 0.7

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Here is my proposal for the release plan. If people have any concerns with the plan, then please raise them now. Code freeze and testing starts on Sunday 2005-06-12 at 14:00 UTC [1]. During code freeze we cannot add any new functionality, just bug fixes and documentation

Re: draft proposal

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Mikler wrote: Hello! Ross! For the benefit of other devs. Mikler wanted to do the forrest-voice project, however, I already had considerable interest in that project. I have said that I will consider any project put forward if the community view it as useful. Hence Mikler has posted this

Re: svn commit: r189734 [2/3] - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/ docs/howto/ docs/plugins/

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: David, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -html +html xmlns:i18n=http://apache.org/cocoon/i18n/2.1; -script type=text/javascript language=JavaScript!-- - document.write(Published: + document.lastModified); - // --/script +script

Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-506) Do not hard-code site-visible message strings in skin files

2005-06-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: The string $(env.LANG} works well inside main/forrest.build.xml. It was the default before you made changes to the trunk. But the same string is ignored when you use it inside webapp/sitemap.xmap (skin labels are looked up in the English dictionary, even if LANG=es_ES).

Re: svn commit: r189734 [2/3] - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/ docs/howto/ docs/plugins/

2005-06-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
David Crossley wrote: Juan Jose Pablos wrote: David, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -html +html xmlns:i18n=http://apache.org/cocoon/i18n/2.1; -script type=text/javascript language=JavaScript!-- - document.write(Published: + document.lastModified); - // --/script

Re: svn commit: r189734 [2/3] - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/ docs/howto/ docs/plugins/

2005-06-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
David Crossley wrote: Juan Jose Pablos wrote: David, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -html +html xmlns:i18n=http://apache.org/cocoon/i18n/2.1; -script type=text/javascript language=JavaScript!-- - document.write(Published: + document.lastModified); - // --/script

Re: sitemap ?issues?.. maybe..

2005-06-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Tim Williams wrote: I apologize up front for being a pest while you guys are prepping for the release but... I started my queries into sitemaps with the cocoon:/ cocoon:// protocols but now I'm starting to wonder whether we have other sitemap related issues too. (Not issues in the sense of

Anyone working on Need better documentation explaining tabs?

2005-06-09 Thread Ayush Gupta
Hi! Is anyone currently working on the Need better documentation explaining how to use tabs issue as listed in the Issue Navigator - ASF Jira (FOR 511). The ASF JIRA said nobody is assigned the issue and that it is still unresolved. I have myself encountered this problem many times while working.

Re: locationmapped resources

2005-06-09 Thread Tim Williams
On 6/9/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Tim Williams wrote: I've got resources in resources.xmap looking at locationmap now. I haven't done it for any non-image resource though.Should the following matches be resolvable through locationmaps too?

Re: sitemap ?issues?.. maybe..

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Tim Williams wrote: Currently, in most, but not all of the subsitemaps there are duplicate transformer, generator, serializer declarations. Anyone know why this is the way it is? There were some discussion about it. some developers where againts it. That is why

Re: locationmapped resources

2005-06-09 Thread Tim Williams
Every source file, with any mime-type, must be resolvable through locationmaps. I need to slow down and actually read I guess... Thanks for the answer, I'll try to get a patch in the next day or two for resources.xmap -- this one is going to need lots of testing. --tim

Re: matching order for image resources

2005-06-09 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Ross Gardler wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Tim Williams wrote: I'm struggling determining whether the matching order of images can be different from xml specifically with respect to locationmaps. Should images *always* resolve through locationmaps as a last resort the same as xml?

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-09 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Ross Gardler wrote: Yes, this is my biggest complaint about Daisy right now. Every single change gets the same priority in the version management system. So if I change a single letter, it create a new version and generates a commit mail. Wiki's deal with this by allowing you to mark

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? -- Schedule

2005-06-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
David Crossley wrote: Pls note: There were no objections. So the views-workshop is moved to Monday night. I'll try and write the announcement tomorrow. I have our new Events web page almost finished. I will get that published too. If you have already finished the events page, then I

Re: release plan for 0.7

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Here is my proposal for the release plan. If people have any concerns with the plan, then please raise them now. Code freeze and testing starts on Sunday 2005-06-12 at 14:00 UTC [1]. During code freeze we cannot add any new functionality, just bug

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Any comments on this proposal? Ferdinand Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: - Set your Java version to be the lowest specified of our supported versions. Where is the definitive info on the supported versions? The FAQ says we need Java 1.4 or better. Does that mean it has

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Any comments on this proposal? Yes i sent comments under another thread name: required Java version Would someone please follow up. It is a very important point. --David Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: - Set your Java version to be the lowest

Re: svn commit: r189766 - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/howto/ skin/ skin/messages/

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Does anyone know why that empty messages directory was published? Are those CommonMessages files meant to be included? --David Author: crossley Date: Thu Jun 9 08:35:15 2005 New Revision: 189766 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=189766view=rev Log: Publish some new documents.

Re: Anyone working on Need better documentation explaining tabs?

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Ayush Gupta wrote: Hi! Is anyone currently working on the Need better documentation explaining how to use tabs issue as listed in the Issue Navigator - ASF Jira (FOR 511). The ASF JIRA said nobody is assigned the issue and that it is still unresolved. I have myself encountered this problem many

Re: Questions about the release instructions

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Any comments on this proposal? Yes i sent comments under another thread name: required Java version Would someone please follow up. It is a very important point. I've switched on my lazy consensus mode for this issue. In other words I agree

Re: release plan for 0.7

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Here is my proposal for the release plan. If people have any concerns with the plan, then please raise them now. Code freeze and testing starts on Sunday 2005-06-12 at 14:00 UTC [1]. During code freeze we cannot add any new

Re: svn commit: r189766 - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/howto/ skin/ skin/messages/

2005-06-09 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 01:45 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Does anyone know why that empty messages directory was published? Are those CommonMessages files meant to be included? I am not sure but the messages should be in that dir. The other question: I guess not I reckon it is because they are

Re: required Java version (Was: Questions about the release instructions)

2005-06-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Sorry, I completely missed that response in the flurry of postings. David Crossley wrote: I have similar concerns. Using 1.4.0 sounds very risky. However we could not expect everyone to use the most recent 1.4.x So would a compromise of 1.4.1 be the most sensible? I disagree. For several

Re: svn commit: r189734 [2/3] - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/ docs/howto/ docs/plugins/

2005-06-09 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Yes, cheche is right that is i18n stuff, but actual do not know why that is happening. I may find time tomorrow to have a look, but you can beat me to it. ;-) salu2 On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 12:57 +0200, Juan Jose Pablos wrote: David Crossley wrote: Juan Jose Pablos wrote: David, [EMAIL

Re: release plan for 0.7

2005-06-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: I'd prefer to be a little more restrictive than allowing the sitemap restructuring. As I understand it, and would prefer it, even a minor commit will result in us (you?) having to rebuild the release distribution and us retesting. If this understanding is right

DOCU - howto-view-dsl (was Re: svn commit: r189766 - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/howto/ skin/ skin/messages/)

2005-06-09 Thread Thorsten Scherler
This Howto is far from be finished and please forget the last paragraph (Using contracts) because it is wrong!!! I found a problem to display the installed contracts that I need to fix before I can go on writing. All view how-to's need proofreading. salu2 thorsten On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 01:45

Re: required Java version (Was: Questions about the release instructions)

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Sorry, I completely missed that response in the flurry of postings. David Crossley wrote: I have similar concerns. Using 1.4.0 sounds very risky. However we could not expect everyone to use the most recent 1.4.x So would a compromise of 1.4.1 be the most sensible?

Re: [views] forrest:contracts - naming convention

2005-06-09 Thread Diwaker Gupta
I agree again with a small addition. The idea is that contracts are within groups: - branding - nav - search - content - siteinfo That makes it easier to group the contracts by this functionalities and adding new contracts based on the above mentioned categories. Using your input I

[jira] Updated: (FOR-200) Locationmap for Forrest and Users

2005-06-09 Thread Tim Williams (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-200?page=all ] Tim Williams updated FOR-200: - Attachment: for-200-resources.patch Here's the patch to make resources resolvable through locationmaps. I'll keep testing this as I go along. --tim Locationmap

Re: required Java version (Was: Questions about the release instructions)

2005-06-09 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
To make that clear before I argue any further: I accept that there are at least two people in favor of using 1.4.1 and so we should do that of course. But I'd still like to argue my case :-) Ross Gardler wrote: 1. If we test against anything other than the most recent fix version of

Re: required Java version (Was: Questions about the release instructions)

2005-06-09 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Backwards compatibility obviously cannot mean that a version with bugs (that might cause problems with Forrest) will not cause this problem because the fix version (where that bug is fixed) is supposed to be backward compatible. It would only mean that this fixed

Re: Forrest + Lenya (Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs)

2005-06-09 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: doug chestnut is working on WebDAV integration right now, which might help with this. as a start, people could do their docs offline, and then add them to lenya through webdav. lenya then takes care of checking them in to the lenya revision control, doing workflow

Re: required Java version (Was: Questions about the release instructions)

2005-06-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Ross Gardler wrote: I would prefer to see us test on 1.4.0 but since I'm not doing the release process I'm happy with 1.4.1 if it makes your lives easier (it actually makes mine harder as I don't have 1.4.1, I have 1.4.0 and 1.4.2, but not 1.4.1). I think that this is trivial. When I had

Re: svn commit: r189734 [2/3] - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/ docs/howto/ docs/plugins/

2005-06-09 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Yes, cheche is right that is i18n stuff, but actual do not know why that is happening. I may find time tomorrow to have a look, but you can beat me to it. ;-) -html +html xmlns:i18n=http://apache.org/cocoon/i18n/2.1; done. +document.write(Last Published:?? +

[jira] Commented: (FOR-528) Add version control to plugins

2005-06-09 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-528?page=comments#action_12313207 ] Ross Gardler commented on FOR-528: -- Almost there, still to do: - add build properties to all other plugins (up to listLocations) - disable local deploy from root plugins

Re: svn commit: r189734 [2/3] - in /forrest/site/0.7: ./ docs/ docs/howto/ docs/plugins/

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Yes, cheche is right that is i18n stuff, but actual do not know why that is happening. I may find time tomorrow to have a look, but you can beat me to it. ;-) -html +html xmlns:i18n=http://apache.org/cocoon/i18n/2.1; done.

[views] Headsup - today suddenly views haven't worked anymore

2005-06-09 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, FAQ: today suddenly views haven't worked anymore. Possible problem: If this happens for you then check http://xobjex.com/service/date.xsl in a browser. If you do not get an answer in your browser, that is the problem. Solution: change in your view a contract that causes cocoon to

Re: DOCU - howto-view-dsl

2005-06-09 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:31 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: This Howto is far from be finished and please forget the last paragraph (Using contracts) because it is wrong!!! I found a problem to display the installed contracts that I need to fix before I can go on

Re: [views] Headsup - today suddenly views haven't worked anymore

2005-06-09 Thread Diwaker Gupta
I learned from this that select=document('http://xobjex.com/service/date.xsl')/date is a dangerous thing to do in contracts. Its a simple script -- Forrest can host it on its own website. But even that is not required -- I had supplied a simple Python script that generates this document. All

Re: [views] Headsup - today suddenly views haven't worked anymore

2005-06-09 Thread Diwaker Gupta
On 6/9/05, Diwaker Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned from this that select=document('http://xobjex.com/service/date.xsl')/date is a dangerous thing to do in contracts. IMHO, here is the simplest solution: o since we already use Ant, can we use the tstamp target [1] to set some

Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-506) Do not hard-code site-visible message strings in skin files

2005-06-09 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
On Thu, 2005-09-06 at 12:56 +0200, Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Pedro I. Sanchez wrote: The string $(env.LANG} works well inside main/forrest.build.xml. It was the default before you made changes to the trunk. But the same string is ignored when you use it inside webapp/sitemap.xmap (skin labels

Re: release plan for 0.7

2005-06-09 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: During code freeze we cannot add any new functionality, just bug fixes and documentation tweaks [4]. Does this also apply to the locationmap branch, that is branch in note [4] means the release branch