Re: cvs commit: apr/locks/win32 locks.c

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
> wrowe 02/01/31 22:21:34 > > Modified:locks/win32 locks.c > Log: > Win32 mod_rewrite was broken by the implicit assumption that fname would > have a value. Of course, fname may be NULL, in which case this patch > from 1.46 broke any NULL locking. Correct the Local/Glo

[PATCH] Re: server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread sterling
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > +1 ... offer patches !-) okay... you and justin asked for it :) attached is a patch to fix up all the naming and add apu_strings.c to the build. separately attached is apu_strings.h and apu_strings.c which implement the apr_getword* functions

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 ABOUT_APACHE

2002-01-31 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 06:21:59AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > jerenkrantz02/01/31 22:21:59 > > Modified:.ABOUT_APACHE > Log: > Update some of the URLs and notes that have gotten stale. Ian, This one might be worth bumping the tag on. Considering someone might actua

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2002-01-31 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 06:05:52AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > aaron 02/01/31 22:05:51 > > Modified:.STATUS > Log: > ** Vote if you will not support a GA until perchild is portable. ** I don't think this is a big enough issue to keep us from GA, but if the group th

Re: daedalus is running 2.0.31

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Greg Ames wrote: > ...since Thursday, 31-Jan-2002 19:04:06 PST. Cool. we're running it for our developers internally starting tomorrow. > > Beside checking out the tag, it has the usual patch to save the input buffers > for debugging, and a quick-n-dirty hack to exit the child without killing

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Justin Erenkrantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:05 PM > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:53:29PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > When we *do* go GA, are we planning on keeping this numbering? > > I think it'll confuse and dismay the public.. > > AIUI, I think

Re: server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
+1 ... offer patches !-) We have a few string functions such as the version-sort that aught to move to an apr-util strings library in the first place. Bill - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:55 PM Subject: server/ut

daedalus is running 2.0.31

2002-01-31 Thread Greg Ames
...since Thursday, 31-Jan-2002 19:04:06 PST. Beside checking out the tag, it has the usual patch to save the input buffers for debugging, and a quick-n-dirty hack to exit the child without killing the parent if accept() gets ENFILE (system out of fd's). I did have to futz with the config file

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:53:29PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Eh.. 2.0.31 and climbing.. > > When we *do* go GA, are we planning on keeping this numbering? Didn't we decide the answer to that question months and months ago after several lengthy flame wars? Tony.

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Hess
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 06:40:01PM -0500, Dale Ghent wrote: > From a users' standpoint, it would seem more like a bug in apache if > s/he tries to shut apache down via apachectl, and then start it back up. > > First, the shutdown will fail, because the ppid is no-longer existing > (and thus produ

Re: server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread sterling
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:23:05PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >... > > yeah, interesting point - that function could be kept in the apache tree > > if pcre dependencies are unacceptable. All the rest of the functions > > belong in apr-util. > > I'd

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Bill Stoddard
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 08:33:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > I don't have an issue with the numbering, but bouncing 2.0.* to GA to alpha and >back again > > will be confusing as hell to a lot of people, especially to folks who develop and >sell > > specialized Apache modules (RSA ClearT

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 08:33:55PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: > I don't have an issue with the numbering, but bouncing 2.0.* to GA to alpha and back >again > will be confusing as hell to a lot of people, especially to folks who develop and >sell > specialized Apache modules (RSA ClearTrust, Net

Re: server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:23:05PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >... > yeah, interesting point - that function could be kept in the apache tree > if pcre dependencies are unacceptable. All the rest of the functions > belong in apr-util. I'd rather see some more thought applied, than "move the

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Bill Stoddard
> On 31 Jan 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: > > | Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | > | > Yeah, I see that, too. I have to add '-lthread -lpthread' to the > | > | > src/Makefile manually. > | > | What is the actual symptom you see if you don't do that? > > I don't know, i've always been ad

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Bill Stoddard
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:53:29PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > When we *do* go GA, are we planning on keeping this numbering? > > I think it'll confuse and dismay the public.. > > AIUI, I think we will be keeping this numbering. I don't think > it'll confuse the public because whe

Re: server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread sterling
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 04:55:30PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi - > > > > I don't recall if this has been proposed before, but I keep finding myself > > wanting various string functionality that lives in server/util.c outside > > of apache

Re: PHP42/Zend update needed for Apache 2.0.31

2002-01-31 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 04:15:38PM -0500, David Ford wrote: > Apache 2.0.31 got tagged this evening, the php/zend code has been out of > sync with it for a bit now. > > Would anyone mind chit chatting and getting the appropriate code > updated? :) FWIW, I think DougM has made the appropriate in

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:53:29PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > When we *do* go GA, are we planning on keeping this numbering? > I think it'll confuse and dismay the public.. AIUI, I think we will be keeping this numbering. I don't think it'll confuse the public because when we release

Re: server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 04:55:30PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi - > > I don't recall if this has been proposed before, but I keep finding myself > wanting various string functionality that lives in server/util.c outside > of apache - what do you say we move it all to apr-util? lots of CO

RE: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
I've seen similar error on HPUX also - some versions of libc (on HPUX) has dependency on TLS (thread local storage) symbols - which requires that you link specifically with lpthread.. This is done mainly for performance reasons.. I suspect something similar to be happening on Solaris too - just a

server/util.c

2002-01-31 Thread sterling
Hi - I don't recall if this has been proposed before, but I keep finding myself wanting various string functionality that lives in server/util.c outside of apache - what do you say we move it all to apr-util? lots of COOL functions in there (coincidentally written by rob mcCOOL). sterling

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
Jeff Trawick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h > for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. > > That doesn't look good. and guess who screwed it up in the first place... me... time for a different hobby... -- Jeff Trawi

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Jim Jagielski wrote: | I was refering to the situation where the kids don't auto-suicide | upon being orphaned. If they don't, the picking them off is tough | out-of-process. | | It's looking like we need a decision vote: | If the parent process dies, should the remaining chi

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On 31 Jan 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: | Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > | > Yeah, I see that, too. I have to add '-lthread -lpthread' to the | > | > src/Makefile manually. | | What is the actual symptom you see if you don't do that? I don't know, i've always been adding to LIBS in the

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:59:05PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: > It's looking like we need a decision vote: > If the parent process dies, should the remaining child processes > "gracefully" self-terminate. > > Yes: Jim > No: I added an entry in STATUS for this and recorded my vote. -- justin

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > Yeah, I see that, too. I have to add '-lthread -lpthread' to the > | > src/Makefile manually. What is the actual symptom you see if you don't do that? > "All calls to libthread and libpthread are no-ops if the application does > not link -lthread or

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On 31 Jan 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: | Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > On 31 Jan 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: | > | > | We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h | > | for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. | > | | > | That doesn't look good. | > |

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jeff Trawick wrote: > > > > We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h > > for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. > > > > That doesn't look good. > > > > Can anyone confirm? > > > > Confirmed on both... but for

Re: mod_cgi on 1.3 question

2002-01-31 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:33:19PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: > mod_cgi.c on 1.3 makes this call: > > if ((retval = ap_setup_client_block(r, REQUEST_CHUNKED_ERROR))) > return retval; > > If I understand this, a browser cannot send chunked content to a cgi on the server. >Why > not use REQUE

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
Martin Kraemer wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:42:33PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > But the parent dying doesn't imply the child processes also kicking > > the bucket (as we've seen). > > And that's rather easy to do, and IMHO it should be added to the children. > (that was what I

Re: A question for the protocol gurus...

2002-01-31 Thread Roy T. Fielding
> But in theory this could also happen with HTTP/1.0 if a client asks for > /blah and doesn't include a host header - in this case the gateway has > no way of figuring out who to connect to, and must fail as I understand > it with "505 Upgrade Dammnit". Am I right? It can fail however it likes --

Re: mod_cgi on 1.3 question

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:39:29PM +0100, Kraemer, Martin wrote: > And we don't dechunk them to a file, but we pipe them to the module (which I meant: but we "pipe" them (it#s of course not a real pipe(2)). Martin -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Fujitsu Siemens Fon: +49-89-636-46021, FA

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:42:33PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > But the parent dying doesn't imply the child processes also kicking > the bucket (as we've seen). And that's rather easy to do, and IMHO it should be added to the children. (that was what I said about kill(getppid(),0) or getppid

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
Jeff Trawick wrote: > > We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h > for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. > > That doesn't look good. > > Can anyone confirm? > Confirmed on both... but for some reason the compile/link/run seems to work... Weird! -- ===

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
Martin Kraemer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > When the parent dies, it's bad. No doubt. You might be able to > > muddle through, but it's a scenario where you're just waiting for > > badness to happen. > > But it's easier to handle if you have a cro

Re: mod_cgi on 1.3 question

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:33:19PM -0500, Bill Stoddard wrote: > mod_cgi.c on 1.3 makes this call: > > if ((retval = ap_setup_client_block(r, REQUEST_CHUNKED_ERROR))) > return retval; > > If I understand this, a browser cannot send chunked content to a cgi on the server. >Why > not use REQUE

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Martin Kraemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:19 PM > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:49:29PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > > -1 here, [...] > > > [this was not a veto] > > What's the difference between -1 and a veto? Have rules changed? Since this is voti

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: > When the parent dies, it's bad. No doubt. You might be able to > muddle through, but it's a scenario where you're just waiting for > badness to happen. But it's easier to handle if you have a cron job which monitors the parent and r

mod_cgi on 1.3 question

2002-01-31 Thread Bill Stoddard
mod_cgi.c on 1.3 makes this call: if ((retval = ap_setup_client_block(r, REQUEST_CHUNKED_ERROR))) return retval; If I understand this, a browser cannot send chunked content to a cgi on the server. Why not use REQUEST_CHUNKED_DECHUNK? Bill

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 03:49:29PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > -1 here, [...] > [this was not a veto] What's the difference between -1 and a veto? Have rules changed? Martin -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Fujitsu Siemens Fon: +49-89-636-46021, FAX: +49-89-636-47655 | 81730

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 31 Jan 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: > > | We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h > | for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. > | > | That doesn't look good. > | > | Can anyone confirm? > > Yeah, I see that, too. I

Re: 1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On 31 Jan 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: | We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h | for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. | | That doesn't look good. | | Can anyone confirm? Yeah, I see that, too. I have to add '-lthread -lpthread' to the src/Makefile manual

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Ian Holsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:23 PM > +1 > doing it now. > should we also bump the mod_alias so it has ken's recent fix in it? -1 here, IMHO that's relatively untested and an ancient issue - I suspect other areas have Location: issues as well. Leave

Re: daedalus httpd is upset

2002-01-31 Thread Greg Ames
Greg Ames wrote: > > Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 05:44:38PM -0500, Greg Ames wrote: > > > > I'll leave it alone for an hour or two and then restart it unless > > > > someone volunteers to investigate this. > > > > > > I just bounced us back to 2_0_28. Thanks for poin

PHP42/Zend update needed for Apache 2.0.31

2002-01-31 Thread David Ford
Apache 2.0.31 got tagged this evening, the php/zend code has been out of sync with it for a bit now. Would anyone mind chit chatting and getting the appropriate code updated? :) I'd like to help, but I'm rather new to the code. If I'm speaking to the wrong people, please let me know. Apache c

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Greg Ames wrote: > > Are we creating another migration task here? Not any more. Although if a config has something completely bogus, like Redirect /foo ugly-non-abs_path we'll throw a 500 server-side rather than the client doing whatever client-specific thing it would otherwise do (or not do)

1.3 weirdness with AcceptMutex on Solaris

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
We turn on HAVE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT in src/include/ap_config.h for Solaris. We do not add -lpthread to the link. That doesn't look good. Can anyone confirm? -- Jeff Trawick | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP public key at web site: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/9289/

Re: Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Are we going to do something Linux-like and have development > streams numbered 2.odd.x and the golden releases 2.even.x? You would have to do it the other way round, except you wanted to start GA with 2.2.0 :-) -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-berg

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Ian Holsman wrote: > >>should we also bump the mod_alias so it has ken's recent fix in it? >> > > *shrug* You tagged 2.0.31, I figure it's your call. Just beware > of feeping creaturism.. :-) > fine by me. it can wait. I'll make a release note or something abo

Version numbering

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Eh.. 2.0.31 and climbing.. When we *do* go GA, are we planning on keeping this numbering? I think it'll confuse and dismay the public.. Are we going to do something Linux-like and have development streams numbered 2.odd.x and the golden releases 2.even.x? -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamga

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Ian Holsman wrote: > > should we also bump the mod_alias so it has ken's recent fix in it? *shrug* You tagged 2.0.31, I figure it's your call. Just beware of feeping creaturism.. :-) -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > >>As things stand at this instant, maybe. If I can get the >>netpath prefixing correctly, it will continue to function >>as it does now (but w/o violating HTTP) and only issue a >>warning message to the log. >> > > Okey, I've got a

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Greg Ames wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>gregames02/01/31 11:54:53 >> >> Modified:.STATUS >> modules/mappers mod_dir.c >> Log: >> fix redirects for directories. fixup_dir was munging the URI before other >> fixup hooks (such as fixup_redir in mod_alias) h

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > As things stand at this instant, maybe. If I can get the > netpath prefixing correctly, it will continue to function > as it does now (but w/o violating HTTP) and only issue a > warning message to the log. Okey, I've got a handle on this now, I think; commit co

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Greg Ames wrote: > > I glanced at the doc for RedirectMatch after Ken's commit, and > didn't see any words about absolute URLs. Redirect has them though. RedirectMatch refers to Redirect; inheritance. :-) > What does the 1.3 code do? If the completed substitution target isn't an absoluteURI,

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_dir.c

2002-01-31 Thread Greg Ames
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > gregames02/01/31 11:54:53 > > Modified:.STATUS >modules/mappers mod_dir.c > Log: > fix redirects for directories. fixup_dir was munging the URI before other > fixup hooks (such as fixup_redir in mod_alias) had a chance to redi

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Greg Ames
Joshua Slive wrote: > In fact, this configuration looks terribly invalid. It should be > RedirectMatch /build/tomcat/(.*) > http://jakarta.apache.org/build.jakarta-tomcat/$1 > Or even better > Redirect /build/tomcat/ http://jakarta.apache.org/build.jakarta-tomcat/ > > We should be returning an

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Joshua Slive wrote: > > What about a compromise for 1.3: Log it as an error but don't bork the > request; just let it through with the bad location header? Now that the issue has surfaced, it needs to be handled. I'm -1 on a 'fix' that perpetuates RFC-noncompliant behaviour. The minimalist 'rig

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
"William A. Rowe, Jr." wrote: > > > Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > > > No, I don't think this stops a roll by any means -- but it > > *does* stop it from being GA. > > Is the bug in 1.3? Then what's the showstopper? Apache, being a reference implementation of the HTTP RFCs, is in violation

RE: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Ian Holsman wrote: > > > > I don't think we should be forcing people into RFC compliance > > like this. > > The compliance with the RFC isn't something we're forcing on > people, it's something the server needs to do in its generation

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Jacek Prucia
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:42:56 -0500 "Joshua Slive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > In fact, this configuration looks terribly invalid. It should be > RedirectMatch /build/tomcat/(.*) > http://jakarta.apache.org/build.jakarta-tomcat/$1 > Or even better > Redirect /build/tomcat/ http://jakarta.a

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Ian Holsman wrote: > > I don't think we should be forcing people into RFC compliance > like this. The compliance with the RFC isn't something we're forcing on people, it's something the server needs to do in its generation of Location fields. > so I'm -0.9 on it we should be opening the bag of

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Ian Holsman wrote: > >>The fix you just put in will probably break a lot of configurations >> > > They were broken as it stands; the documentation says 'must be > a valid URI'. > yep.. but thats true, and it isnt RFC compliant, and no one should be using it in

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Ian Holsman wrote: > > The fix you just put in will probably break a lot of configurations They were broken as it stands; the documentation says 'must be a valid URI'. > is it possible to prefix the r->hostname to the relative URI instead? Then you get into that whole UseCanonicalName bag of c

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:10 PM > Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > > > Yar; Redirect* should hork on invalid substitutions, > > just as you say. I'll look at that one. > > The culprit appears to be RedirectMatch, even back in 1.3.

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Rodent of Unusual Size" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:39 AM > Greg Ames wrote: > > > > /builds/tomcat/ is redirected to /builds/jakarta-tomcat/ via an > > .htaccess file, so the bottom two refer to the same thing. > > This actually exposes a new issue: invalid

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > >>Yar; Redirect* should hork on invalid substitutions, >>just as you say. I'll look at that one. >> > > The culprit appears to be RedirectMatch, even back in 1.3. > > No, I don't think this stops a roll by any means -- but it > *d

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2002-01-31 Thread Greg Ames
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > coar02/01/31 07:46:19 > > Modified:.STATUS > Log: > Another showstopper.. protocol violation, this time. > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.412 +4 -1 httpd-2.0/STATUS > > Index: STATUS >

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > Yar; Redirect* should hork on invalid substitutions, > just as you say. I'll look at that one. The culprit appears to be RedirectMatch, even back in 1.3. No, I don't think this stops a roll by any means -- but it *does* stop it from being GA. -- #kenP-)}

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
Is this a showstopper for a .31 roll ? IMHO it shouldn't be as the big browsers happily accept relative URL locations. so while not RFC compliant it's not going to be crashing things or stopping people from serving pages. Joshua Slive wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: Rodent of Unusual

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Joshua Slive wrote: > > You are confusing RedirectMatch with RewriteRule. D'OH! (manipulative member dents anteriour cranium) > In fact, this configuration looks terribly invalid. Yar; Redirect* should hork on invalid substitutions, just as you say. I'll look at that one. -- #kenP-)} K

RE: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
> -Original Message- > From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > RedirectMatch /builds/tomcat/(.*) /builds/jakarta-tomcat/$1 > > Since there's no '[R]' flag, I'm not sure why this is forcing > an external redirect, either, rather than keeping it internal > and concealed

Re: mod_negotiation/dir subrequest problem [was: Tagging .31 soon]

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Greg Ames wrote: > > /builds/tomcat/ is redirected to /builds/jakarta-tomcat/ via an > .htaccess file, so the bottom two refer to the same thing. This actually exposes a new issue: invalid redirect fields. GET /builds/tomcat/ HTTP/1.0 Host: jakarta.apache.org returns Location: /build

Re: 31 is tagged

2002-01-31 Thread Ian Holsman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > From: "Jeff Trawick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:36 AM > > >>Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >>>the plan is to roll within 48 hours if nothing major breaks (which >>>can't be fixed in the tag) >>> >>It looks like I need to

Re: WXP

2002-01-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
Does *anything* "run" on Windows XP?? :) Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > There's a FAQ I'm getting more and more to which I don't > know the answer; to wit, does Apache 1.3.* run on Windows XP? > What *is* the answer? > -- > #ken P-)} > > Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/

Re: Parent death should force children suttee

2002-01-31 Thread Raymond S Brand
Frier Tuck and Robin Hood maybe? rsbx Jim Jagielski wrote: > > When the parent dies, it's bad. No doubt. You might be able to > muddle through, but it's a scenario where you're just waiting for > badness to happen. > > Unfortunately, I can't think of a very good solution... Some sort > of e

Re: 31 is tagged

2002-01-31 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Jeff Trawick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:36 AM > Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > the plan is to roll within 48 hours if nothing major breaks (which > > can't be fixed in the tag) > > It looks like I need to veto/back-out Martin's change to getnam

Re: A question for the protocol gurus...

2002-01-31 Thread Graham Leggett
"Roy T. Fielding" wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 09:25:24PM -0500, Chuck Murcko wrote: > > So as Graham said proxy should reply 501 or 505 right? > > It doesn't matter -- HTTP/0.9 responses don't have error codes. > You just have to return an HTML page that tells the user to get out > of their

coldfusion module

2002-01-31 Thread Dwayne Miller
Someone posted a note several months ago that not all add-in modules 'do the right thing'. The coldfusion module was specifically mentioned. I am someone, not related to MacroMedia in any form, who is keenly interested in getting the coldfusion module to work 'the right way' with Apache 2.0.

Re: 31 is tagged

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've tagged 31. > > the plan is to roll within 48 hours if nothing major breaks (which > can't be fixed in the tag) It looks like I need to veto/back-out Martin's change to getnameinfo() error reporting down in APR since he apparently didn't have time t

Re: dist/httpd/apache_1.3.22.tar.gz is redirected to 1.3.23

2002-01-31 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 08:43:02PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > 2. Why aren't the 1.3.22 tarballs available somewhere in the >dist tree? Jim? I re-addded at least 1.3.22.tar.gz from my copy. Does anyone else have the .Z files? And: who deleted them in the first place? Marti

Re: 31 is tagged

2002-01-31 Thread Jeff Trawick
Ian Holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've tagged 31. > > the plan is to roll within 48 hours if nothing major breaks (which > can't be fixed in the tag) > > so.. please try it out on your machines and yell if something breaks > if all goes well we'll have another beta on our hands > > >

WXP

2002-01-31 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
There's a FAQ I'm getting more and more to which I don't know the answer; to wit, does Apache 1.3.* run on Windows XP? What *is* the answer? -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millenium hand and