Re: Intend to roll 2.3.1 on January 2nd

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
Hi Paul, On 26.12.2008 21:56, Paul Querna wrote: Hi, As in the Subject, I intend to roll and start a vote for 2.3.1 on Friday January 2nd, 2009. Thanks, Paul I committed 4 minor fixes today, but will be offline soon. I tested them, but if anyone is unhappy with them for the 2.3.1 tag,

Missing include in simple_run.c

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
When compiling trunk, I get simple_run.c:242: warning: implicit declaration of function 'ap_run_drop_privileges' I can fix it with the following patch: Index: server/mpm/simple/simple_run.c === --- server/mpm/simple/simple_run.c

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: To: undisclosed-recipients:; to headeradd for c...@httpd, overriding the normal To: c...@httpd.apache.org. That should prevent Reply-All from picking up the commit list, since there won't be anything in the To: or CC: fields for it to use. Last I checked,

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:12:28 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? Justin Erenkrantz wrote: To: undisclosed-recipients:; to headeradd for c...@httpd,

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:12:28 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? Justin Erenkrantz wrote: To: undisclosed-recipients:; to headeradd for

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:37:58 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: William A. Rowe, Jr. To:

Re: Missing include in simple_run.c

2009-01-02 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 01/02/2009 03:04 PM, Rainer Jung wrote: When compiling trunk, I get simple_run.c:242: warning: implicit declaration of function 'ap_run_drop_privileges' I can fix it with the following patch: Index: server/mpm/simple/simple_run.c

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:42:20 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? - Original Message From: William A. Rowe, Jr. To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent:

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
On 02.01.2009 15:57, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Joe Schaeferjoe_schae...@yahoo.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 9:42:20 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? - Original Message From: William A. Rowe, Jr. To:

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 11:43:44 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On 02.01.2009 15:57, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Joe Schaefer To:

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
On 02.01.2009 17:58, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Rainer Jungrainer.j...@kippdata.de To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 11:43:44 AM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On 02.01.2009 15:57, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: So, is that better or worse than getting a bounce message? I'll point out that Yahoo! used to have a similar problem, but have since resolved it. I wonder what gmail does now? When you hit 'reply-all' now, GMail adds

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 12:32:37 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: So, is that better or worse than getting a

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice. How do people actually handle moderation at the ASF then? You're *supposed* to be using Reply-All when you want to accept a post. Are none of these clients out there ezmlm-compatible? Gmail does the same thing

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 12:45:39 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Nice. How do people actually handle

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice. How do people actually handle moderation at the ASF then? You're *supposed* to be using Reply-All when you want to accept a post. Are none of these clients out there ezmlm-compatible?

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Mads Toftum
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:00:15PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'd prefer we don't throw away the to: header, it will make filtering and sorting emails more difficult for some folks who lack any-header rich regex filtering features. Yeah, it broke my filtering. I much prefer the keeping

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Shrug, I can try completely removing the To: header, but I'm fairly certain that some MTA's will add one back (and a missing To: header will trigger anti-spam). Other than that, it's pick your poison time, since no

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 1:28:27 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Shrug, I can try completely removing the To:

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Andre and Roy are the only ones signed up for moderation of c...@httpd. I think the people who want it to go back to being a moderated list should first step up and offer to moderate it before we revert the config.

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jan 2, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 12:45:39 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Andre and Roy are the only ones signed up for moderation of c...@httpd. I think the people who want it to go back to being a moderated list should first step up and offer to moderate it before

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: I for one don't want the duplicate messages; reply-to says dev@ and that is where patches for discussion should be discussed. Re: Crap doesn't belong on a commits notification list. I don't want crap every time I

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 1:47:57 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Jan 2, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Justin

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: nob...@apache.org routes to the bit-bucket, so that would work for the To: header. That's what I would recommend doing at this point, although I've just implemented Justin's recommended config and will stop there until

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Maxime Petazzoni
* Mads Toftum m...@toftum.dk [2009-01-02 19:06:21]: Yeah, it broke my filtering. I much prefer the keeping the To: rather than adding yet another clumsy workaround for gmail oddities. +1 on this, please keep the To: header. - Maxime -- Maxime Petazzoni http://www.bulix.org +1 (650) 390-7483

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Mads Toftum
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:52:49AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I don't want crap every time I hit reply either. Remembering every time to cut the address or living with the blowback is even more unacceptable. -- justin File a bug with whomever makes your mail client then. It's worked

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Mads Toftum
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:01:18AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: nobody@ sounds fine as long as it doesn't blow up too many people's filters. seems to me that this will be almost as broken as the use of undisclosed. you're still removing what was used to filter on. Existing filters are still

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Mads Toftum m...@toftum.dk wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:52:49AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I don't want crap every time I hit reply either. Remembering every time to cut the address or living with the blowback is even more unacceptable. -- justin

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 2:43:23 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Mads Toftum wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:52:49AM -0800,

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mads Toftum m...@toftum.dk wrote: seems to me that this will be almost as broken as the use of undisclosed. you're still removing what was used to filter on. Existing filters are still broken. No, correct filters should be keying off List-Post/List-Id. File a

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Mads Toftum
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:43:23AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Considering mutt, Gmail, and Thunderbird all include c...@httpd in the replies when you do 'reply-all', I have no clue what you're talking about. Is there any MUA that doesn't include c...@httpd in the CC line when you hit

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Mads Toftum
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:49:04AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: No, correct filters should be keying off List-Post/List-Id. File a bug with whomever makes your mail client then. It's worked fine for ages. Except I can easily filter on those, but I haven't had the need to until someone

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jan 2, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: nob...@apache.org routes to the bit-bucket, so that would work for the To: header. That's what I would recommend doing at this point, although I've just implemented Justin's recommended config and will stop there until the list comes to a

Re: Why is r-handler a garbled string?

2009-01-02 Thread John David Duncan
Hi, I've solved the problem, though I may not exactly understand how. It was an issue with the way I was building the module, which was fixed once I added in the flags I got from apr-config --cppflags. (I used to rant that the mostly-undocumented design change to apxs in apache 2.0 was

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 3:06:42 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Jan 2, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: nob...@apache.org routes to the bit-bucket, so that

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mads Toftum m...@toftum.dk wrote: seems to me that this will be almost as broken as the use of undisclosed. you're still removing what was used to filter on. Existing filters are still broken. No, correct filters should be keying off

Module enable defaults for trunk

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
Hi, I compiled a list of our defaults for the enablement of modules on trunk (attached). I think some modules should change. There is a nice default setting, that will enable a module when --enable-modules=all is used. Some of the new modules (and filters) use this default, like mod_sed,

Re: svn commit: r730835 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2009-01-02 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 01/02/2009 09:09 PM, wr...@apache.org wrote: Author: wrowe Date: Fri Jan 2 12:08:59 2009 New Revision: 730835 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730835view=rev Log: Clean up fugly initialization of AcceptFilter mappings Modified: httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

Re: svn commit: r730835 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ruediger Pluem wrote: Otherwise the table will not be empty anymore in the case that neither APR_HAS_SO_ACCEPTFILTER nor APR_TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT is set. Uhm ... huh? What gave you the idea that APR_TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT is a volatile? It's present in apr 1.3 (our baseline) and will be sticking

Re: svn commit: r730835 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/server/core.c

2009-01-02 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 01/02/2009 10:27 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Ruediger Pluem wrote: Otherwise the table will not be empty anymore in the case that neither APR_HAS_SO_ACCEPTFILTER nor APR_TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT is set. Uhm ... huh? What gave you the idea that APR_TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT is a volatile? It's

Windows Support philosophy for trunk/2.4 release

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Some might have noticed I've been busy eliminating Win9x support from trunk. The essential logic is that the 9x/ME family has been retired from even extended support for some time, no security updates are forthcoming, and the code path was altogether different than the NT generation. The one

Undefined symbols in ab.c

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Leggett
Hi all, I am currently struggling to build httpd-trunk, the build of ab fails with undefined symbols as below. Is this broken for anyone else, or have I done something dumb? /tmp/httpd-trunk//build-1/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -g -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes

Re: slotmen API thoughts

2009-01-02 Thread Chris Darroch
Jim Jagielski wrote: - create() - takes num_items and item_size - to be called during initial config pass, providers should not initialize or create mutexes here, etc. should not?? That comes from writing mod_shmap which lets you load a bunch of socache

Re: Undefined symbols in ab.c

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
Hi Graham, On 03.01.2009 01:39, Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I am currently struggling to build httpd-trunk, the build of ab fails with undefined symbols as below. Is this broken for anyone else, or have I done something dumb? /tmp/httpd-trunk//build-1/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -g

Re: svn commit: r730881 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: configure.in support/Makefile.in

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
rj...@apache.org wrote: Author: rjung Date: Fri Jan 2 16:58:11 2009 New Revision: 730881 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730881view=rev Log: We need to link only ab against libm (because of sqrt()). Uhm - sure that mod_status and a few others didn't also need this on some

Re: mod_fcgid license questions

2009-01-02 Thread Chris Darroch
Piotr Gackiewicz wrote: Hi, my name is Piotr Gackiewicz and I am the autor of these patches. I confirm, that I personaly consider them as minor changes and agree, that you should put them into minor patch group. Without signing CLA and official Software Grant. I appreciate transferring this

Re: svn commit: r730881 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: configure.in support/Makefile.in

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
On 03.01.2009 02:02, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: rj...@apache.org wrote: Author: rjung Date: Fri Jan 2 16:58:11 2009 New Revision: 730881 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730881view=rev Log: We need to link only ab against libm (because of sqrt()). Uhm - sure that mod_status and a few

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 1:28:27 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Shrug, I can try completely

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 8:08:47 PM Subject: Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd? On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:33 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: From: Justin Erenkrantz To: dev@httpd.apache.org

Re: svn commit: r730881 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: configure.in support/Makefile.in

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Rainer Jung wrote: On 03.01.2009 02:02, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: rj...@apache.org wrote: Author: rjung Date: Fri Jan 2 16:58:11 2009 New Revision: 730881 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730881view=rev Log: We need to link only ab against libm (because of sqrt()). Uhm - sure

Re: svn commit: r730881 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: configure.in support/Makefile.in

2009-01-02 Thread Rainer Jung
On 03.01.2009 02:50, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Rainer Jung wrote: On 03.01.2009 02:02, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: rj...@apache.org wrote: Author: rjung Date: Fri Jan 2 16:58:11 2009 New Revision: 730881 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730881view=rev Log: We need to link only ab

Re: svn commit: r730881 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: configure.in support/Makefile.in

2009-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Rainer Jung wrote: That's the platform I do most tests on. I compiled all trunk modules and could load them, so no missing symbols. I do the same change regularly for 2.2.x, so I know it works there to (but didn't test there with all more exotic modules). Cool, leaving the change on

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: I am completely uninterested in fixing the config just because some person reflexively does a reply-all and then doesn't edit their own destination addresses. There is nothing to fix here. A bounce is what they are

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jan 2, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: I am completely uninterested in fixing the config just because some person reflexively does a reply-all and then doesn't edit their own destination addresses. There is

Re: svn commit: r730911 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/support/config.m4

2009-01-02 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
test reply-all jerenkra...@apache.org wrote: Author: jerenkrantz Date: Fri Jan 2 21:06:43 2009 New Revision: 730911 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730911view=rev Log: Silence ulimit warnings on platforms/configs that don't support setting the soft limit to the hard limit (aka default

Re: Configuration change for c...@httpd?

2009-01-02 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Roy T. Fielding wrote: BTW, if you maintain that the list config is immutable, then my suggestion would be to shut down cvs@ and route commits to d...@. This way we don't place unnecessary barriers to discussions around commits. If folks can't live with the commit traffic, they shouldn't be on

Re: svn commit: r730914 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/acinclude.m4

2009-01-02 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
test reply jerenkra...@apache.org wrote: Author: jerenkrantz Date: Fri Jan 2 21:34:52 2009 New Revision: 730914 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730914view=rev Log: Fix up SSL autoconf-fu so as not to emit bogus lines. * acinclude.m4 (APACHE_CHECK_SSL_TOOLKIT): Move CHECKING line to

[VOTE] Release Apache HTTP server 2.3.1-alpha

2009-01-02 Thread Paul Querna
Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.1-alpha are available at: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Your votes please; ±1 [ ] Release httpd-2.3.0 as Alpha Vote closes at 7:00 UTC on Thursday January 8 2009. Thanks, Paul

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HTTP server 2.3.1-alpha

2009-01-02 Thread Paul Querna
Paul Querna wrote: Test tarballs for Apache httpd 2.3.1-alpha are available at: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Your votes please; ±1 [ ] Release httpd-2.3.0 as Alpha This should actually be Release httpd-2.3.1 as Alpha, but I fail at editing copied text. I hope everyone

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HTTP server 2.3.1-alpha

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Paul Querna c...@force-elite.com wrote: [ -1 ] Release httpd-2.3.1 as Alpha For me, r730882 busts the build on Mac OS X. (It can't find pcre.) More in my reply to the commit msg... -- justin

RE: svn commit: r730882 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/configure.in

2009-01-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
[ It's odd as I didn't get the email for this commit...anyway... ] Author: rjung Date: Fri Jan 2 17:01:56 2009 New Revision: 730882 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=730882view=rev Log: Only link libhttpd against pcre. Modified: httpd/httpd/trunk/configure.in Modified: