Re: Product name - for future versions

2006-08-12 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
I still stand by "Apache Server Framework" as the best choice. I like this a lot too! (Or either Apache World Dominitation Project j/k) -- ~Jorge

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-08-12 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
Well I'm on vacation so thats why I don't reply much. But i do agree that it does more than just just HTTP. this will be even more true if mod_ftp gets out of incubator. So I'm not really for the HTTP in de name. On 8/10/06, Colm MacCarthaigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at

Re: Product name - for future versions

2006-08-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Querna wrote: > > I still stand by "Apache Server Framework" as the best choice. The ASF'S > ASF is the ultimate way to deliver data from a server :) :) ++1

Re: Product name - for future versions

2006-08-10 Thread Paul Querna
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:26:23PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >>> Pretty darned quiet - either "it's summer" or nobody feels like >>> joining the fray when Roy and Will go at it? >> Well, Paul's talk in San Diego got me thinking. We'

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-08-10 Thread Roy T. Fielding
e, nd, sctemme, maxime Apache niq (implicit) Pretty darned quiet - either "it's summer" or nobody feels like joining the fray when Roy and Will go at it? In any case, although I don't disagree with niq that almost everyone knows this as 'Apache', that is

Product name - for future versions

2006-08-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:26:23PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> Pretty darned quiet - either "it's summer" or nobody feels like >> joining the fray when Roy and Will go at it? > > Well, Paul's talk in San Diego got me thinking. We're not really "just" > about HT

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-08-10 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:26:23PM -0700, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Pretty darned quiet - either "it's summer" or nobody feels like > joining the fray when Roy and Will go at it? Well, Paul's talk in San Diego got me thinking. We're not really "just" about HTTP any more, it's a misnomer. We're

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-08-10 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 08/10/2006 09:26 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >>Roy would prefer we determine the active consensus. Please vote for what >>you believe is the principal, proper name of the product we create from >>the sources located in the http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/h

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-08-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
sctemme, maxime > Apache niq (implicit) Pretty darned quiet - either "it's summer" or nobody feels like joining the fray when Roy and Will go at it? In any case, although I don't disagree with niq that almost everyone knows this as 'Apache', that isn&#x

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
[ ] httpd [ ] Apache httpd [ ] Apache httpd Server [ ] Apache HTTP Server [X] Other: Apache Server I went for Apache Server, As of now it can do more than just http requests. Look at the mod_ftpd for examle (not the one in incubator!!) So Apache Server seems good to me... and this al

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Maxime Petazzoni
Hi, As most of the things I had to say on this topic have been said already, let's just vote : > [ ] httpd > [ ] Apache httpd > [ ] Apache httpd Server > [X] Apache HTTP Server > [ ] Other: Regards, - Maxime -- Maxime Petazzoni (http://www.bulix.org) -- gone crazy,

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Steffen
iam A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 21:54 Subject: Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [ ] httpd [ ] Apache httpd [ ] Apache httpd Server [X] Apache HTTP Server [ ] Other:

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Jean-frederic Clere
- Original Message - From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 21:54 Subject: Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [ ] httpd [ ] Apache httpd [ ] Apache httpd Server [X] Ap

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Nick Kew
On Saturday 29 July 2006 21:28, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Steffen wrote: > > I opt for: Apache Web Server > > The vote thread asks for feedback on -shipping- versions, that is, > the names we use today. The only word we have today that qualifies as a name is Apache. Adding stop words to that

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Steffen wrote: > I opt for: Apache Web Server The vote thread asks for feedback on -shipping- versions, that is, the names we use today. This could be one of the suggestions on the -other- thread discussing what the 'next version' will be called.

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Steffen
aturday, July 29, 2006 21:54 Subject: Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [ ] httpd [ ] Apache httpd [ ] Apache httpd Server [X] Apache HTTP Server [ ] Other:

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Sander Temme
On Jul 29, 2006, at 11:54 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [ ] httpd [ ] Apache httpd [ ] Apache httpd Server [X] Apache HTTP Server [ ] Other: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.temme.net/sander/ PGP FP: 51B4 8727 466A 0BC3 69F4 B7B8 B2BE BC40 1529 24AF

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > [ ] httpd > [ ] Apache httpd > [ ] Apache httpd Server > [X] Apache HTTP Server > [ ] Other:

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread André Malo
* William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > Roy T. Fielding wrote: > >> I tried to yesterday, but it is nigh impossible without a single > >> unique word to search for. Maybe we should just hold another vote. > > > > It's hellish to search for, yes. The topic is raised every

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Guy Hulbert
I don't think I'm eligible to vote but I would point out that in the third name the 'd' in 'httpd' is redundant if you append 'Server'. On Sat, 2006-29-07 at 13:54 -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > [ ] httpd > [ ] Apache httpd > [ ] Apache httpd Server > [ ] Apache HTTP Server > [ ] O

[Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Roy T. Fielding wrote: > >> I tried to yesterday, but it is nigh impossible without a single unique >> word to search for. Maybe we should just hold another vote. > > It's hellish to search for, yes. The topic is raised every once in a while > and nobody stops to s

Re: product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > I agree, though if we change it we may as well go to apache-server-2.4.x > given the noise about protocol-independence. +1 and I've changed -this- thread subject to discuss what the name is right now. >>> Only recently did people start changing the text to remove httpd

Re: product name

2006-07-29 Thread André Malo
* Jim Jagielski wrote: > Apache HTTP Server is (mostly) a web server. > > Let's call it 'parker' Good call. Did you know, that 'nd' is short for n.d. parker :-)

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
Apache HTTP Server is (mostly) a web server. Let's call it 'parker' (I'll let the Spider Man fans explain it... :) ) -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "If you can

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
Fair point you have there... As long as the new name isn't some way to hard to rememebr abrivation :) AMPES ;) Apache Multi Protocal Extenable Sever j/k On 7/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wouldn't push the "Apache" thing. Truth is... a letter could show up at any mo

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jorge Schrauwen wrote: > Let me sugest: > > :: Nahche :: > Nahche (Na-ai-che, `mischievous,' `meddlesome.'-George Wrattan). An > Apache warrior, a member of the Chiricahua band. He is the second son > of the celebrated Cochise, and as hereditary chief succeeded his elder > brother, Tazi, on the de

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread TOKILEY
I wouldn't push the "Apache" thing.   Truth is... a letter could show up at any moment from lawyers of the Apache Nation regarding the name usage.   Might even be way overdue.   I wouldn't "go there" and draw attention to the issue at all.   Yours... Kevin Kiley   In a message dated 7/28/2006 3:

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote: > Isn't the whole problem the lack of a proper product name that > we or anyone can identify with (other than "Apache")? > > With that in mind, how about something more distinctive and > less ineffably lame than anything like "httpd" or &

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Nick Kew
On Friday 28 July 2006 22:59, Jorge Schrauwen wrote: > Let me sugest: > :: Nahche :: > > Nahche (Na-ai-che, `mischievous,' `meddlesome.'-George Wrattan). An > Apache warrior, a member of the Chiricahua band. He is the second son > of the celebrated Cochise, and as hereditary chief succeeded his eld

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
ar.gz > httpd-2.0.59-win32-src.zip > httpd-2.0.59.tar.gz > httpd-2.2.3-win32-src.zip > httpd-2.2.3.tar.gz > > and the NOTICE files are tied to the source tree (httpd). Isn't the whole problem the lack of a proper product name that we or anyone can identif

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Nick Kew
ce tree (httpd). Isn't the whole problem the lack of a proper product name that we or anyone can identify with (other than "Apache")? With that in mind, how about something more distinctive and less ineffably lame than anything like "httpd" or "web server"? For

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 28, 2006, at 12:32 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From this perspective and for clarity, while we are on the subject, perhaps apache-httpd-X would be the appropriate package names, and seems that would be consistent with how most many ASF projects are distributing their tarballs

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > It is the name of the product containing a whole bunch of source code > and many binaries, one of which is sometimes called httpd. The tarballs > are called httpd. The legal notices will be called httpd, and the links > to the artifacts will be called httpd. The only

Re: product name

2006-07-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > People discuss what to put in the Announcement text on every release, > but the only discussion I've seen about our product name was Paul's > suggestion we change it to &quo

product name

2006-07-28 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:36 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Roy T. Fielding wrote: That line is for the product name, not the project name. And - I understood that our product is the Apache HTTP Server, not httpd. At least that's been the consensus in the docs project for the last