Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-13 Thread Ondrej Sury
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 12:10 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. said: So... is it unreasonable in README.RPM to point the user to obtain the current httpd.spec/httpd.in from /dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.55-rpm-src.tar.gz which would be grabbed from svn httpd/package/rpm/, and drop

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-13 Thread Graham Leggett
Ondrej Sury wrote: Sorry, but in DEB world, this is pretty normal to have separate upstream source and debian/ subdirectory and it's not serious pain at all. Exactly, it's normal in the debian world, but it's not normal in the rpm world. Each packaging system has it's own default way of

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-13 Thread Ondrej Sury
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 14:44 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: [...] Sounds reasonable... Sometimes however, someone might need a bleeding edge feature not offered by a distro, but they might not want to clutter up their system with custom install trees. The ASF packages serve the needs of this

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-13 Thread Graham Leggett
Ondrej Sury said: Then I would suggest to provide _clean_ .tar.gz not including any .spec or whatever and *also* provide .src.rpm package for bleeding edge testers. How does it sound to you? In other words a return to where we started way back when, ie no spec file at all, and various

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Thank you everyone for testing, especially the infrateam for picking this up on Ajax and really stressing it under mod_mbox (in spite of a few more fixes required to mbox's mime processing :) Although the site is updated, starting the clock on the announce till early tomorrow aftn (america time)

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-12 Thread Graham Leggett
William A. Rowe, Jr. said: So... is it unreasonable in README.RPM to point the user to obtain the current httpd.spec/httpd.in from /dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.55-rpm-src.tar.gz which would be grabbed from svn httpd/package/rpm/, and drop it into the unpacked httpd-2.0.55 source tarball, in order to

Re: [pre-release] rpm spec file (was: Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing)

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Leggett
Luc Pardon said: In that case the 2.0 httpd.spec files should either a) not require pre-installed apr packages and build apr as part of the httpd rpm, A definite -1 on this. If this were so, httpd could not coexist cleanly with other packages that depended on APR. or b) build the

Re: [pre-release] rpm spec file (was: Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing)

2005-10-11 Thread Luc Pardon
Graham Leggett wrote: Luc Pardon said: In that case the 2.0 httpd.spec files should either a) not require pre-installed apr packages and build apr as part of the httpd rpm, A definite -1 on this. If this were so, httpd could not coexist cleanly with other packages that depended

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Leggett
Colm MacCarthaigh said: How many people actually build RPM's is what I'm wondering, given the errors that creep in in the releases, and we don't see that many complaints, it can't be a very high number. I see a fair amount of downloads for the RPM's files themselves, which is what makes me

Re: [pre-release] rpm spec file (was: Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing)

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Leggett
Luc Pardon said: Yes, but what got me confused is that the httpd tarball comes with the APR source (hence the docs don't talk about it as being a prerequisite) whereas the current spec file requires you to go elsewhere and get something that is already there. It seem to me that this kind

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-11 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:34:16PM +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: We provide SRPMs for building, which contain fixed httpd.spec files. I see people downloading them a fair ammount ( 400 per day, which is actually quite a lot for the binaries section), and I don't see why these would discontinue.

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Leggett
Colm MacCarthaigh said: I see people downloading them a fair ammount ( 400 per day, which is actually quite a lot for the binaries section), and I don't see why these would discontinue. So, would it be so bad a thing if the release tarball wasn't itself buildable? The release tarball should

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Graham Leggett wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. said: The problem is that packaging is almost a 20/20 hindsite game. There's no way we should expect that all of these many platform specifics can all be maintained pre-release. That's why, in the Win32 .msi case, there is a seperate

[pre-release] rpm spec file (was: Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing)

2005-10-11 Thread Luc Pardon
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: snip This was a snafu in the way the rpm change was presented, not in the tarballs. httpd-2.0's distribution tarball will always contain apr 0.9. That doesn't mean httpd-2.2 (with apr 1.x) will do the same; that's yet to be determined. In that case the

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Brian Pane
Tested successfully on Linux 2.6.13/x86_64 (Fedora Core 4) with both worker and prefork MPMs. I encountered lots of errors in perl-framework's t/TEST with prefork on Darwin 8.2.0/PPC (OS X 10.4.2). I don't yet know whether these are due to httpd-2.0.55 problems or just problems with my Perl

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 06.42 skrev William A. Rowe, Jr.: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is now available for testing at http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Please review this candidate, and when responding, indicate the precise operating system

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 09.54 skrev Oden Eriksson: måndag 10 oktober 2005 06.42 skrev William A. Rowe, Jr.: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is now available for testing at http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Please review this candidate, and

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Graham Leggett
Brian Pane said: I encountered lots of errors in perl-framework's t/TEST with prefork on Darwin 8.2.0/PPC (OS X 10.4.2). I don't yet know whether these are due to httpd-2.0.55 problems or just problems with my Perl installation. I ran the build/binbuild.sh script, and httpd built clean on

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 06.42 skrev William A. Rowe, Jr.: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is now available for testing at http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Please review this candidate, and when responding, indicate the precise operating system

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Brian Pane
On Oct 10, 2005, at 2:22 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: Brian Pane said: I encountered lots of errors in perl-framework's t/TEST with prefork on Darwin 8.2.0/PPC (OS X 10.4.2). I don't yet know whether these are due to httpd-2.0.55 problems or just problems with my Perl installation. I ran

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Oden Eriksson wrote: And some investigations told me it requires apr 0.9.7, maybe the autotools stuff should check for this or be documented? Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would that suffice?

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Brian Pane wrote: I encountered lots of errors in perl-framework's t/TEST with prefork on Darwin 8.2.0/PPC (OS X 10.4.2). I don't yet know whether these are due to httpd-2.0.55 problems or just problems with my Perl installation. Hmmm... review this bug (not fixed in 0.9.7, afaict);

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 16.27 skrev William A. Rowe, Jr.: Oden Eriksson wrote: And some investigations told me it requires apr 0.9.7, maybe the autotools stuff should check for this or be documented? Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly,

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Brian Akins
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would that suffice? How horrible would it be to have the apr_reslist_invalidate patch applied to the bundled apr? ducks and runs / --

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Paul Querna
Brian Akins wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would that suffice? How horrible would it be to have the apr_reslist_invalidate patch applied to the bundled apr?

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Brian Akins
Paul Querna wrote: Huh? It is already in 0.9.7 :) I committed it to the 0.9.x branch right after 0.9.6 was released. Thank you! I guess I didn't check the CHANGELOG closely enough. hangs head in shame / -- Brian Akins Lead Systems Engineer CNN Internet Technologies

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 16.56 skrev Brian Akins: Paul Querna wrote: Huh? It is already in 0.9.7 :) I committed it to the 0.9.x branch right after 0.9.6 was released. Thank you! I guess I didn't check the CHANGELOG closely enough. i think it's not there :) -- Regards // Oden Eriksson

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Brian Akins wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would that suffice? How horrible would it be to have the apr_reslist_invalidate patch applied to the bundled apr?

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Oden Eriksson wrote: i think it's not there :) Oden, just looked again, would you check your package signature? b45f16a9878e709497820565d42b00b9 httpd-2.0.55.tar.gz and ensure that you are building against the included srclib/apr/ and not against some system installed 0.9.6 version? Bill

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 17.33 skrev William A. Rowe, Jr.: Oden Eriksson wrote: i think it's not there :) Oden, just looked again, would you check your package signature? b45f16a9878e709497820565d42b00b9 httpd-2.0.55.tar.gz and ensure that you are building against the included srclib/apr/

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Brad Nicholes
+1 NetWare Brad On 10/9/2005 at 10:42:43 pm, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is now available for testing at http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Please review this candidate, and when

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Sander Temme
On Oct 9, 2005, at 9:42 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, As of 17:59 CEST (15 minutes ago), 2.0.55 is running on www.apache.org. Please report any anomalies. We're now also running a very current version of mod_mbox

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Oden Eriksson
måndag 10 oktober 2005 17.28 skrev William A. Rowe, Jr.: Brian Akins wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would that suffice? How horrible would it be to have the

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Sander Temme wrote: On Oct 9, 2005, at 9:42 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, As of 17:59 CEST (15 minutes ago), 2.0.55 is running on www.apache.org. Please report any anomalies. Ack, starting clock with 72 hours to

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread The Doctor
On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:11:13AM -0600, Brad Nicholes wrote: +1 NetWare Brad BSD/OS using Openssl 0.9.8 is spot on! On 10/9/2005 at 10:42:43 pm, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Luc Pardon
Oden Eriksson wrote: And some investigations told me it requires apr 0.9.7, maybe the autotools stuff should check for this or be documented? Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would that

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is now available for testing at http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ My appologies; I should have provided this with the announcement to testers@ and dev@, to avoid confusion;

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Luc Pardon wrote: Oden Eriksson wrote: And some investigations told me it requires apr 0.9.7, maybe the autotools stuff should check for this or be documented? Yup - apr 0.9.7 is part of the bundle. We can spell this out in the announce, certainly, and on the downloads page README - would

Re: [pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-10 Thread Brian Pane
On Oct 10, 2005, at 7:32 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Brian Pane wrote: I encountered lots of errors in perl-framework's t/TEST with prefork on Darwin 8.2.0/PPC (OS X 10.4.2). I don't yet know whether these are due to httpd-2.0.55 problems or just problems with my Perl installation.

[pre-release] 2.0.55 *candidate* available for testing

2005-10-09 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
The httpd-2.0.55 candidate, including win32 source .zip and installers*, is now available for testing at http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ Please review this candidate, and when responding, indicate the precise operating system that you have tested. Thank you for your assistance! Bill *