On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 03:29, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote:
It is also probably a good idea to move various settings methods from
IW to that builder and have IW immutable in regards to configuration.
I'm speaking of the likes of setWriteLockTimeout, setRAMBufferSizeMB,
setMergePolicy,
, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Earwin Burrfoot ear...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 03:29, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote:
It is also probably a good idea to move various settings methods from
IW to that builder and have IW immutable in regards to configuration.
I'm speaking
?)
EG:
IndexWriter.builder(Version.29, dir, analyzer)
.setRAMBufferSizeMB(128)
.setUseCompoundFile(false)
...
.create()
?
Mike
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Earwin Burrfoot ear...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 03:29, Uwe Schindler u...@thetaphi.de wrote
2.0 is pre Mike's fabulous indexing updates - which just for one means
one thread doing the merging rather than multiple. I'm sure overall its
much slower.
If you're doing a full optimize, you're still using a single thread. Am I wrong?
--
Kirill Zakharenko/Кирилл Захаренко
If you're doing a full optimize, you're still using a single thread. Am I
wrong?
Depends on how many merges are required, and, the merge scheduler. In
this case (w/ 7000 segments, which is way too many, normally!),
assuming ConcurrentMergeScheduler, multiple threads will be used since
We use antlr, though without its tree api, it's a bit of overkill.
It directly builds a query in our intermediate format which is
traversed for synonym/phrase detection and converted to lucene query.
The library/language itself is pretty easy to learn, flexible, and has
a nice IDE.
On Fri, Sep
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 19:08, Yonik Seeley yo...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Michael McCandless
luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:
John are you using IndexWriter.setMergedSegmentWarmer, so that a newly
merged segment is warmed before it's put into production
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 15:09, Yonik Seeleyyo...@lucidimagination.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Robert Muirrcm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Michael Buschbusch...@gmail.com wrote:
There was a performance test in Solr that apparently ran much slower
after
The only person that tried to disprove this claim is Uwe. Others
either say the problems are solved, so it's okay to move to the new
API, or this will be usable when flexindexing arrives.
Others (not me) have spent a lot of time going over this before (more than
once I think) - they prob are
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I think right now this can
Or, we can just throw that detection out of the window, for less
smooth back-compat experience, less hacky code and no slowdown.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 19:02, Uwe Schindleru...@thetaphi.de wrote:
The question is, if that would get better if the reflection calls are only
done one time per class
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1793:
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bq. I am guessing the rationale
I'll deviate from the topic somewhat.
What are exact benefits that new tokenstream API yields? Are we sure
we want it released with 2.9?
By now I only see various elaborate problems, but haven't seen a
single piece of code becoming simpler.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 21:50, Uwe
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 22:50, Grant Ingersollgsing...@apache.org wrote:
On Aug 10, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Earwin Burrfoot wrote:
I'll deviate from the topic somewhat.
What are exact benefits that new tokenstream API yields? Are we sure
we want it released with 2.9?
By now I only see various
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 00:37, Michael Buschbusch...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/10/09 1:30 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
I think your 2.5 proposal has drawbacks: if we release 2.5 now to test
the new major features in the field, then do you want to stop adding new
features to trunk until we release
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 00:54, Uwe Schindleru...@thetaphi.de wrote:
I have serious doubts about releasing this new API until these
performance issues are resolved and better proven out from a
usability
standpoint.
I think LUCENE-1796 has fixed the performance problems, which was
I had thought that implementing reusable analyzers in solr was going
to be cake... but either I'm missing something, or Lucene is missing
something.
Here's the way that one used to create custom analyzers:
class CustomAnalyzer extends Analyzer {
public TokenStream tokenStream(String
Well, I have real use cases for it, but all of it is still missing the
biggest piece: search side support. It's the 900 lb. elephant in the room.
The 500 lb. elephant is the fact that all these attributes, AIUI, require
you to hook in your own indexing chain, etc. in order to even be
I'm just keeping a reference to Tokenizer, so I can reset it with a
new reader. Though this situation is awkward, TS definetly does not
need a reset(Reader).
Then how do you notify the other filters that they should reset their state?
TokenStream.reset()? The javadoc specifies that it's
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 08:38, Jason
Rutherglenjason.rutherg...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't have to copy. You can have one machine optimize your indexes
whilst other serves user requests, then they switch roles, rinse,
repeat. This approach also works with sharding, and more than 2-way
Perhaps the ideal search system architecture that requires
optimizing is to dedicate a server to it, copy the index to the
optimize server, do the optimize, copy the index off (to a
search server) and start again for the next optimize task.
I wonder how/if this would work with Hadoop/HDFS as
I always thought flexible indexing is not only for storing your
app-specific data next to terms/docs.
Something more along the lines of efficient geo search, or ability to
try out various index encoding schemes without patching lucene.
In other words, this is something that can be a basis for
The biggest win for NRT was switching to per-segment Collector because
that meant we could re-use FieldCache entries for all segments that
hadn't changed.
In my opinion, this switch was enough to get as NRT-ey, as you want.
Fusing IR/IW together makes Lucene a great deal more complicated and
I'm curious if anyone has thought about (or even tried) caching the low-level
index data in Java, rather than
in the OS. For example, at the IndexInput level there could be an LRU cache
of byte[] blocks, similar to
how a RDBMS caches index pages. (Conveniently, BufferedIndexInput already
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bq. We should drop PayloadSpans
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bq. Shouldnt it throw a runtime
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I took a glance at the code, the whole
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1748 at 7/16/09 7:54 AM
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1743:
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The initial motive for the issue seems
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1743 at 7/15/09 12:14 PM
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1743:
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bq. My problem was more with all
I'd say out of these libraries only Lucene and Sphinx are worth mentioning.
There's also MG4J, which wasn't covered and has a nice algorithmic background.
Anybody knows other interesting open-source search engines?
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 00:39, John Wangjohn.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Vik did a very
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1488:
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bq. There is no morphological
Why don't you use Thread.interrupt(), .isInterrupted() ?
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 16:16, Shai Ereraser...@gmail.com wrote:
A downside of breaking it out into static methods like this is that a
thread cannot run 1 time-limited activity simultaneously but I guess that
might be a reasonable
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1342:
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bq. Sun can't ignore a HotSpot compiler
Having scorers check timeouts while advancing will definetly increase
the frequency of said timeouts.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 13:13, eks deveks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Re: I think such a parameter should not exist on individual search methods
since it's more of a global setting (i.e., I want my
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1712:
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Having half of your methods constantly
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1715:
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I object nulling references in attempt
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1715:
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And support removing finalizers
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1715:
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There's in fact one case where nulling
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Okay, let's have an extra class
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1677:
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Mike, are we going to postpone actual
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1677:
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I thought we're doing everything right
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1701:
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Using 4 for int, 6 for long. Dates
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1701 at 6/22/09 12:18 PM
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1701:
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Design for today.
And spend two years
What other issues would we be taking on by using Java's serialization here...?
It's insanely slow. Though, that doesn't apply to a once-per-commit call.
The other point is, if you store Object, you can no longer mix lucene
and user data.
With MapString, whatever approach you could reserve some
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1712:
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Am I misunderstanding something
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1712:
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Aha! And each time you invoke
But: I do not understand the problems with this JAR file. If somebody really
wants to have smaller files, one could use some tools, that do it
automatically on class usage.
I personally have a couple of usecases for that as I have to work in
very limited environments. Imagine embedded systems
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1701:
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I vote for factories - escaping back
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1701:
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Mike, I very much agree with everything
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1701 at 6/19/09 8:50 AM
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1701:
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bq. Someday maybe I'll convince you
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1630:
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I wasn't following the issue closely
Except, you don't know the size of the file to be written upfront.
One probable solution is to map output file in pages. As a
complementary solution you can map a huge area of the file, and hope
few real memory is allocated by OS unless you actually write all over
that area.
Dunno. The idea of
Oh yes! Again!
+1
One point is missing. What about incompatible behavioral changes that
do not touch API and file format?
Like posIncr=0 at the first token in stream, or analyzer fixes, or
something along these lines.
Are we free to introduce them in a minor release without warning, or
are we
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1673:
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bq. This is that baking in a specific
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1630:
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I like the last option most. Creating
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1630 at 6/15/09 5:36 AM
Just to throw something out, the new Token API is not very consumable in my
experience. The old one was very intuitive and very easy to follow the code.
I've had to refigure out what the heck was going on with the new one more
than once now. Writing some example code with it is hard to follow
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1488:
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bq. But this can't replace
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1453:
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bq. As the Filter is just a deprecated
And this information about the trie
structure and where payloads are should be stored in FieldInfos.
As is the case today, the info is encoded in the class you use (and
it's settings)... no need to add it to the index structure. In any
case, it's a completely different issue and shouldn't
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1607:
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bq. but I was waiting for some kind
* Was the field even indexed w/ Trie, or indexed as simple text?
It's useful to know this automatically at search time, so eg a
RangeQuery can do the right thing by default. FieldInfos seems
like the natural place to store this. It's basically Lucene's
per-segment write-once
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1453:
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Patch looks fine. I read the last one
Actually: I think we should also change IndexReader.document to not
check if it's deleted? (Renaming it to something like rawDocument(),
storedDocument(), something, in the process, and deprecating the old
one).
Yup. After all the most common use-case is to load a document after
finding it in
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1453:
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bq. I think it should (be closed
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1678:
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Second this. Though I lost any hope
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1678:
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bq. If there are sane/smart ways
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1453:
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Two suggestions:
Factor out RefCount
@Mark:
Okay, there's an escape hatch I (and someone else) mentioned on the list
before. Adopting a fixed release cycle with small intervals between releases
(compared to what we have now). Fixed - as in, releases are made each N
months instead of when everyone feels they finished and polished
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1648:
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As LUCENE-1651 is now committed
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1453:
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bq. There are two possibilities to fix
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on SOLR-706:
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When I did autocompletion for my project, simple
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on SOLR-236:
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I have implemented collapsing on a high-volume
/SegmentInfos.java
How about IndexInfo?
Otis
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From: Earwin Burrfoot ear...@gmail.com
To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:08:50 AM
Subject: IR static methods
I have
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1651:
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Seems the patch didn't apply completely
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1651:
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bq. Patch looks good Earwin, thanks!
I
I have a strong desire to remove all these static methods from IR -
lastModified, getCurrentVersion, getCommitUserData, indexExists.
But haven't found a good place for them yet.
Directory - is a bad place, it shouldn't concern itself with details
of what exactly is stored inside, it should think
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1672:
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bq. I will later try to solve
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1672:
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bq. And DirectoryIR/MSR still have
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Earwin Burrfoot updated LUCENE-1651:
Attachment: LUCENE-1651-tag.patch
LUCENE-1651.patch
Argh! The rename
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Earwin Burrfoot updated LUCENE-1651:
Attachment: LUCENE-1651.patch
One more version, applies against current trunk without
Not sure you can easily marry generated JFlex grammar and
runtime-provided list of protected words.
I took the approach of creating tokens for punctuation inside my
tokenizer and later gluing them with nearby text tokens or dropping
from the stream with a tokenfilter.
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1630:
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Searcher is supposed to be a little
Remove GCJ IndexReader specializations
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Key: LUCENE-1677
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1677
Project: Lucene - Java
Issue Type: Task
Reporter: Earwin Burrfoot
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1630:
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You can't, because Weights produced
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1651:
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Hm.. okay, I've got back to work
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Earwin Burrfoot updated LUCENE-1651:
Attachment: LUCENE-1651-tag.patch
LUCENE-1651.patch
Here are the patches
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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I told you, Java mmap doesn't work
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1658 at 6/1/09 1:14 AM
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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Really? Let me quote some code (MacOS
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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Ah! You was referring to your code
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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I tested on MacOS:
Invalid memory
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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bq. It uses less virtual memory
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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bq. I'm a bit nervous about creating
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Earwin Burrfoot edited comment on LUCENE-1658 at 6/1/09 4:16 AM
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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1658:
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bq. On a couple of projects I've worked
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