Hello,
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
Since there's no English native-lang project, who would 'approve' it in
engilsh?
--
the MP project is effectively the English NLC, if not in name. NLC
projects are not meant to be walled gardens. They came into being
becuase it was more efficient to wo
Hello Alexandro,
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
Quoting "Charles-H. Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I diagree with you on this point, Daniel. A FOSS project is a project
releasing software whose source code and generally binaries are freely
distributable, modifiable, reusable by anybody. Outside of that p
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
[...]
Right now, OOo is sitting rather pretty. We are very successful,
really the "poster child" of open source, and represent a serious
alternative, for companies as well as individuals, to MSFT.
[...]
Which reminds me that there will be an overt, l
Hello Daniel,
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
It depends on what you mean by "asking". If every step requires
approval, and approval is almost impossible to obtain because you
get wrapped up in endless discussion, then I think that's very bad.
On the other hand, if you mean asking
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
[...]
Look for instance at the recent (and absurd) Australian story that
just hit /. Expect more of such from press focusing now on Sun's
evident weaknesses, on OOo's community, and so on; on whatever they
can cite as a weakness.
[...]
That particular
Wow, really Chris is Ian's son? I could never tell :) I can't wait
to get to the NEA conference. I just love speaking to people about
the benefits of OpenOffice.
On 4/21/05, Jean Hollis Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've uploaded a few photos to my website:
>
> http://www.taming-open
I've uploaded a few photos to my website:
http://www.taming-openoffice-org.com/miniconf_photos/
Cheers, Jean
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Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hallo Daniel,
> Robert, calm down. It was just an idea. I expressed an opinion, that's
> all. I haven't pushed anyone to do anything. I'm not even involved in
> the spreadoepnoffice.org thing. I just tried to see your point of view
> and find some common
>"The latest incarnation of OpenOffice was last month released for
>testing by users. Early reviews say it marks a big advance over earlier
>versions of the free word processing, spreadsheet and presentation
package."
>
>http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1c5e53b8-b205-11d9-8c61-0e2511c8.html
>
>John
>
>Since there's no English native-lang project, who would 'approve' it in
engilsh?
>
>--
the MP project is effectively the English NLC, if not in name. NLC
projects are not meant to be walled gardens. They came into being
becuase it was more efficient to work in one's native language than in
Engl
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
No one (and certainly not the MP leads) is or has suggested such a
series of steps, where one must ask permission for all things;
Thank you, that's the point I was trying to get at.
that's a strawman point.
No, because I did not accuse you of holding that position. I don't
Quoting "Charles-H. Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hello Daniel,
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
I rather think that if one wishes to work within the boundaries of the
MP (or any) project one must ensure that one's efforts are in agreement
with the project's goals. Asking the MP lead
Hello Daniel,
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
I rather think that if one wishes to work within the boundaries of the
MP (or any) project one must ensure that one's efforts are in agreement
with the project's goals. Asking the MP leads is not such a
bureaucratic step, I think. What
Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
It depends on what you mean by "asking". If every step requires
approval, and approval is almost impossible to obtain because you get
wrapped up in endless discussion, then I think that's very bad. On the
other hand, if you mean asking if anyone is currently working on a
Hi, *
>Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
>
>> I rather think that if one wishes to work within the boundaries of
the
>> MP (or any) project one must ensure that one's efforts are in
agreement
>> with the project's goals. Asking the MP leads is not such a
>> bureaucratic step, I think. What we all do not
Its only in the discussion stages although the principles are agreed. (This is
inside info ;-) ) It could be months before a press release because of the
speed government bureaucracy works but I'll let you know as soon as I know.
--- Lars D. NoodÃn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Lars D. NoodÃ
The decision ISTRC was to put it on hold, but this is another reason why it
should be ressurected. I still think an EN-NL project has a lot of merit.
--- "Robert Vojta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Robert Vojta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Apr 2005 22:24:46 +0200
To: dev@marketing.openoff
Robert Vojta wrote:
But who cares about number of URLs? Are you going to create one web
page with all 'promotion' sites for all languages? Something like
MarCons page? Are you expecting Czech (or any other) people to look
at this page to find where is the 'Czech' promotion site? These
peo
Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hallo Daniel,
> Some experiments fail. That's why they are called experiments. Try to
> think of it as a learning experience. You have to try something
> out.
yes, but you have to stop and think for a while after the few not so
successful experiment
Jason Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since there's no English native-lang project, who would 'approve' it
> in engilsh?
AFAIK there was a discussion about the English NL project and the
decision was to create it? This comes from my deepest part of my
brain ...
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Robert Vojta
ht
> Leave this decision on the NLC projects. It's absolutely neccessary
> for local community to know where is the promotion site in their
> language and it not depends on the URL. Globalization is not good as
> it looks like ... Next thing is freedom - who will handle this
> domain, who wi
Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
I rather think that if one wishes to work within the boundaries of the
MP (or any) project one must ensure that one's efforts are in agreement
with the project's goals. Asking the MP leads is not such a
bureaucratic step, I think. What we all do not want is losing the
me
Robert Vojta wrote:
I fully understand you, but IMHO this is not the right way. We have
an expriment here and it's name is FreeYourFiles.com. This site is
dead ... Are we interested in another SpreadOpenOffice.org dead
site?
Some experiments fail. That's why they are called experiments. Try
"The latest incarnation of OpenOffice was last month released for
testing by users. Early reviews say it marks a big advance over earlier
versions of the free word processing, spreadsheet and presentation package."
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1c5e53b8-b205-11d9-8c61-0e2511c8.html
John
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I tend to disagree, for a web manager I tend to miss the functionality
of a CMS
site where people has the freedom to get their news through RSS or participate
in forums and post images and things that they contribute back.
Again I have seen many side webiste flourish under the OpenOffice.org ES
c
Hi Franz,
Sorry for the late response Comments inline.
>Good evening.
>
>I think most of you know the www.spreadfirefox.com - website. If not, i
>can advise you to take a look on it.
>
>I think, such a page for openoffice.org would simply be perfect.
>A central place for everyone willing to h
Hi,
>Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
>> Sorry to sound a bit authoritative, but given the purpose and the
>> name of your web site, did you get any clearance from the Marketing
>> project leads? From the community manager?
>
>One has to find a balance between (1) keeping the community involved,
>and organ
Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hallo,
>
> [ snip ]
>
> You start out by experimenting, and trying to involve the
> community. It's perfectly fine to start a website without a clear idea
> of where it's going to go. You can use it as a testing ground. With
> community involvement, perh
Hi
Slashdot finally picked us this article
(http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/20/2157235&tid=185&tid=102&tid=8).
It seems like that a lot of potential developers are put of by the
difficulty in building OOo, actually doing anything outside of Sun, and
the massive codebase.
Mayb
Hello Frando,
please, don't go think I'm a control freak. I have just two comments to
make here.
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 18:03 +0200, Frando wrote:
> >
> So what are your ideas?
> Until now, I oriented towards spreadfirefox.com
> So maybe this would be my basic specs:
>
> - providing marketing ma
Robert Vojta wrote:
One has to find a balance between (1) keeping the community involved,
and organized and (2) being flexible and efficient.
yes, you're right and I have agree with you. But on the other site,
I have to agree with Charles too.
Well, I was trying to present both sides of the iss
Hello Frando,
please forgive the tone of my last mail. It seems to have sounded harsh,
afterwards.
I guess I didn't choose my words very well.
My point was not to discourage you from SpreadOpenOffice.org . I was
just willing to show you, beyond the simple "clearance", that we had to
act in a coor
Robert Vojta wrote:
[...]
From this point of view - who is marketing project? You? Me?
Jacuqeline? John? Who? Who should take this up? Maybe it's Frando
... It's not so easy as it looks like ...
I do not want to see any marketing project leader approval, but what
I really want to see is close
Daniel Carrera schrieb:
Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
Sorry to sound a bit authoritative, but given the purpose and the name
of your web site, did you get any clearance from the Marketing project
leads? From the community manager?
Maybe you saw the mail I posted a few days ago, where I proposed such a
Is there a URL for a press release? It would be helpful as a model.
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Ian wrote:
[snip]
In principle there is agreement to count OOo as sponsorship with the same
value as the equivalent MS licences which means schools using OOo will help
trigger up to 500k dollars in addition
Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hallo Daniel,
> One has to find a balance between (1) keeping the community involved,
> and organized and (2) being flexible and efficient.
yes, you're right and I have agree with you. But on the other site,
I have to agree with Charles too. Do you
Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
Sorry to sound a bit authoritative, but given the purpose and the name
of your web site, did you get any clearance from the Marketing project
leads? From the community manager?
One has to find a balance between (1) keeping the community involved,
and organized and (2) being
Frando wrote:
Hello.
Yesterday evening I got access to the server on which SpreadOOo will
run, so the project is getting more tangible. Today or tomorrow I will
start setting up the drupal/civicspace system, my SpreadOOo-skin is
already "viewable", too.
Awesome! :)
Some people in the list here
Hello Franz,
thank you for your initiative.
Sorry to sound a bit authoritative, but given the purpose and the name
of your web site, did you get any clearance from the Marketing project
leads? From the community manager?
If you're german, and that you wish to focus SpreadOOo on multilingual
aspe
Hello.
Yesterday evening I got access to the server on which SpreadOOo will
run, so the project is getting more tangible. Today or tomorrow I will
start setting up the drupal/civicspace system, my SpreadOOo-skin is
already "viewable", too.
Some people in the list here wanted the spreadOOo-page
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Ian wrote:
[snip]
In principle there is agreement to count OOo as sponsorship
with the same value as the equivalent MS licences which means schools
using OOo will help trigger up to 500k dollars in additional funding.
[snip]
Way to go Ian! I wonder if there are similar fund
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Quoting Adam Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]
That said we do need more help. It hits it right on the head why it's
difficult. It's large code and you can't just jump right in without
getting a little overwhelmed. I am trying to put a college group
together that can crea
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