Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-09-02 Thread Mirek M.
Just for those wanting clarification on the Oracle vs. Google deal, here's an article that I think explains the situation very clearly: http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/110/

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-09-02 Thread WorldLabel.com
*Oracle veep backs software revolution at historic anniversary OpenOffice.org global conference* OpenOffice.org, the Open Document Format and their customers are equally important, Michael Bemmer, the Vice President and General Manager of Oracle Office, said at the annual international OpenOffice.o

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (29-08-10 18:37) Cor Nouws, 29-08-2010 05:53: Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 17:41) There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some people complained when it was still Sun, but with Oracle it's worse. Can you pls. tell why it's worse? It is something I missed. Sun o

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-29 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
Cor Nouws, 29-08-2010 05:53: Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 17:41) There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some people complained when it was still Sun, but with Oracle it's worse. Can you pls. tell why it's worse? It is something I missed. Sun opened Solaris development, Oracle is closing

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-29 Thread Lars Nooden
On 08/26/2010 09:44 PM, Mirek M. wrote: > But it's a good starting point for a new branch. No. It's not. The changes introduced in that one are introduced by Microsoft affiliates with a bad history on standards and licensing. There is a good reason it was forked. Personally, I would like to se

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 17:41) There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some people complained when it was still Sun, but with Oracle it's worse. Can you pls. tell why it's worse? It is something I missed. All code contributed to the project is shared with Oracle. Oracle owns it and c

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote (26-08-10 22:19) Another interesting news is that OpenSolaris won't get the code from Oracle in real time. As the licence allows, Oracle will release a binary with the new development being closed and releasing the code on CDDL months latter. That's not desired and th

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-27 Thread WorldLabel.com
>I'm not saying Oracle didn't invest time into OOo. I'm just saying I don't want to support a company like Oracle or MS (MS also > puts a lot of time and money into its suite, much more than Oracle)... Oracle does still invest in OOo, they sponsoring OOoCon. And we really do not know yet what the

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Roman Gelbort
El 26/08/10 11:47, Mirek M. escribió: > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100813112425821, > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/oracle_google_java_prosecution/, or > http://techdirt.com/articles/20100817/00061910645.shtml > And besides, many people, including me, believe that software

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Well Google didn't use open source to start with. When Java was > "liberated" it created an OpenJDK platform. Danger (the original > company that created android) forked J2ME which is NOT free. So they > had that risk from the start, the

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Cor, 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws > Hi Mirek, > > Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 16:47) > >> 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws >> >>> Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) >>> >>> 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal >>> > Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. > > it's attacking one of the most successful fruits

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Alexandro, everyone, 2010/8/26 Alexandro Colorado > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Mirek M. wrote: > > Hi Varun, everyone, > > > > 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal > > > >> Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. > > > > > > Oracle filed a patent suit against Google's implementation of Ora

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mirek, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 16:47) 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because of a ridiculous patent suit concerning, surprisi

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Mirek M. wrote: > Hi Varun, everyone, > > 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal > >> Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. > > > Oracle filed a patent suit against Google's implementation of Oracle's > open-source Java in Google's open-source Android OS. How does that

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: > Did you ever think about time and money that Sun Microsystems did and now > Oracle does invest in OpenOffice.org, that you can just download for free, > several new versions a year, as much as you want? There is an issue with the JCA/SCA. Some p

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
2010/8/26 Mirek M. > Hi again, > > 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws > > Hi, >> >> Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) >> >>> 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal >>> >>> Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. >>> >>> it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because >>> of a >>> ridiculou

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi again, 2010/8/26 Cor Nouws > Hi, > > Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) > >> 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal >> >> Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. >>> >> >> it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because of >> a >> ridiculous patent suit concerning, surprisingly

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Mirek M. wrote (26-08-10 11:41) 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. it's attacking one of the most successful fruits of open-source because of a ridiculous patent suit concerning, surprisingly, its open-source Java. And that really makes me move away f

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-26 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Varun, everyone, 2010/8/25 Varun Mittal > Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. Oracle filed a patent suit against Google's implementation of Oracle's open-source Java in Google's open-source Android OS. How does that not undermine Oracle's relationship to open-source? > > Any O

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-24 Thread Cor Nouws
luiz wrote (25-08-10 01:01) Now What?? http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A04497C2-1A64-67EA-E47D1DA05B661F37 Nothing news - despite the tag "IDG news service" I just see old news and old speculations ;-) (And of course insecure reporting.) But it is a good attempt to play with emotions. Cor

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-24 Thread Varun Mittal
Oracle anywayz filed a suit only against Google. Any Open Source project is dependent on its community and not on a company for its survival. Secondly market has enough MS hater corporates who would like to support anything which hurt MS on its one of the most profitable products. On a lighter n

Re: [marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-24 Thread Alexandro Colorado
LOL this is true OOo tradition, some bad press is leaked right before the OOoCon. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM, luiz wrote: > Now What?? > > http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A04497C2-1A64-67EA-E47D1DA05B661F37 > > Luiz Oliveira > > --

[marketing] "Don't Count on Oracle to Keep OpenOffice.org Alive"

2010-08-24 Thread luiz
Now What?? http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A04497C2-1A64-67EA-E47D1DA05B661F37 Luiz Oliveira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openoffice.org