Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
Christian, the bitness of cleaner.exe makes absolutely no difference to your aim of enforcing 64Bit. I do not plan to change anything buildwise, only the C code, meaning it will still be a 32 bit executable. In fact I dread if I would have to look into the build system in Apache NetBeans of this

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
> @Emilian Bold: Where would I document? Please point me in right direction. Thanks. I see these pages https://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/index.asciidoc are on GitHub here https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/tree/master/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/wiki So you could make a PR against

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Christian Oyarzun
Lars, Is the plan to continue to keep the cleaner as a 32bit exe? $ file cleaner.exe cleaner.exe: PE32 executable (GUI) Intel 80386, for MS Windows The nlw.exe executable was built as a 64bit exe, which used to be 32bit in previous NetBeans releases. This would prevent using the NBI to create a

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
I've filed a Jira ticket : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-3094 with the aim to change the C code for the cleaner.exe to be able to delete read-only files too. It is rather trivial. I've assigned it to myself. @Emilian Bold: Where would I document? Please point me in right

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Christian Oyarzun
Oliver, it is just a question of changing the permissions on the files before zipping the JRE. I'm using a modified version (JRE instead of JDK) of jMonkeyEngine's script to create the JRE unzipsfx files. It's a question of adding the following to

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Oliver Rettig
Hi, I remember on such problems also with Netbeans 8.2. It had todo with access rights. I am interested in if you can figure it out. best regards Oliver > Is anyone packaging the JRE in a RCP installer using Netbeans 11.1 > following these instructions? >

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
Lars, those notes do deserve a wiki page indeed. --emi joi, 12 sept. 2019, 20:45 Lars Bruun-Hansen a scris: > Hi Christian > > I once wrote some notes on how the cleaner works. (yes, they are > probably worthy of a Wiki page, but currently the only exist here). It > was written about 5 years

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Christian Oyarzun
Hi Lars, Thanks for the information. Your guess was correct, those files had the read-only attribute set. Unsetting those attributes allowed the clearer to remove the files and top-level directory. Thanks, Christian On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:45 PM Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote: > Hi Christian > > I

Re: updating the interface for a module or java file..

2019-09-12 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Brad, Am Mittwoch, den 11.09.2019, 13:46 -0600 schrieb Brad Walker: > Let's say that I've cleaned up all references to a deprecated method. > > Now I want to remove the deprecated method since no one is using it. > > Don't I have to update the interface definition? And if so, how does one go

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Fair enough, whatever works. :-) Gj On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 19:34, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > > Amount of data is a question of downloading the bits you want and then > > seeing how large that is. > > don't

Re: Packaging JRE in RCP installer

2019-09-12 Thread Lars Bruun-Hansen
Hi Christian I once wrote some notes on how the cleaner works. (yes, they are probably worthy of a Wiki page, but currently the only exist here). It was written about 5 years ago, but I doubt it has changed. The notes are below and I think they are worth the read because I'm guessing they

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Geertjan, Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > Amount of data is a question of downloading the bits you want and then > seeing how large that is. don't take this wrong, but that approach is the worst way to determine the amount of data. Someone with access

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Amount of data is a question of downloading the bits you want and then seeing how large that is. I don’t see anyone asking about anything other than 8.2 so far. Gj On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 17:19, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 17:12 +0200 schrieb Geertjan

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-12 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
It seems I've skimmed that part. Wasn't expecting it that early. Good news! Thank you! On 9/11/19 9:33 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: See the initial post here about the 4th donation re the dark look and feel. Gj On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 05:13, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Hi Geertjan, I know it

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 17:12 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > Sure, everything. But indeed let's start with what we need most, i.e., 8.2 > related artefacts. > > You're the one who set up the OSUOSL storage, would be happy to help, but > if you suggest some kind of structure and a

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sure, everything. But indeed let's start with what we need most, i.e., 8.2 related artefacts. You're the one who set up the OSUOSL storage, would be happy to help, but if you suggest some kind of structure and a process with steps for getting artefacts up there, I'd be happy to do it or be

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
I would move *everything* public facing that's on bits.netbeans.org. No need to purge anything if it's under an open-source license and OSUOSL can redistribute it. Older builds, older Maven repositories, maybe even Javadocs? On top of my list would be NetBeans 8.2 and the 8.2 maven repo. --emi

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sure, let's do it, but for me the question is what precisely we want to move to OSUOSL storage, if we can have a list or start putting one together, we'll have a clear starting point. Gj On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 4:53 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > Doesn't sound silly at all. I was also very concerned

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
Doesn't sound silly at all. I was also very concerned about such matters. Now that we have the OSUOSL storage we have a place to save historical artifacts, it's just a matter of somebody (from the PMC, I guess) doing it. Besides the bits, you will find that bugzill is quite referenced in commits,

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:46 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Sure, I understand all those points, but does anyone know how long > bits.netbeans.org will still be online? Last week, there was an outage An outage of bits.netbeans.org? Or do you specifically mean http://bits.netbeans.org/maven2?

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Which artefacts are we talking about? Gj On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:23 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hmm ok. > > Does it sound silly that I am concerned about the disappearance of the > legacy artefacts? > > What is you opinion and shall we invest any effort to save those artefacts? > > JMB > >

Re: Have we got any *runtime* performance tests?

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hi Tim, If file access is improved that may also improve indexing and by consequence symbol finding or refactoring. Did you try such operations to check the difference in speed? Cheers, JMB On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 8:47 AM Tim Boudreau wrote: > I've been playing with some tweaks to masterfs -

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hmm ok. Does it sound silly that I am concerned about the disappearance of the legacy artefacts? What is you opinion and shall we invest any effort to save those artefacts? JMB On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:59 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > I doubt it will be live a few more years. Another year max

Re: James Gosling on NetBeans at ApacheCon today

2019-09-12 Thread Zoran Sevarac
Huge recognition for Apache NetBeans On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:59 AM Kai Uwe Pel wrote: > Wow, that's amazing news! > Thanks for the update. > > Regards, > Kai > > On 9/11/2019 11:11 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I’d like to highlight the fact that one of our PMC members and

Re: Current state of Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Ruby support shall be kept. > > > community-soa > > > > Misguided junk to sell to managers who don't understand technology, so they > can torture their employees with it. >  That is so true! Send it to /dev/null, but: I am still obliged use SoapUI on a regular base. This tool is so a nightmare

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Sure, I understand all those points, but does anyone know how long bits.netbeans.org will still be online? Last week, there was an outage and, of course, exactly when I was testing our new artifactory. That is why I started wondering. If the bits.netbeans.org will remain live during a few years,

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 09:48 Eric Barboni, wrote: > We could not move the artefacts to central because of the licence and the > groupid that are now for Apache NetBeans. > I'm not sure this is correct. At least, I remember us getting some advice about pre-Apache release artefacts that might

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
bits.netbeans.org could easily be migrated to netbeans.osuosl.org Not sure if there are any plans about that, etc. --emi On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:48 AM Eric Barboni wrote: > > Hi, > I was also stressed ;D. > We could not move the artefacts to central because of the licence and the >