Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Patrick Musembi
+1 I use flatlaf dark on ubuntu 21.10. On Tue, 2 Nov 2021, 06:02 Scott Palmer, wrote: > +1 to FlatLAF > Dark or Light should default to the system preference. Both Windows and > macOS have a system setting for dark mode. > > Scott > > > On Nov 1, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Scott Palmer
+1 to FlatLAF Dark or Light should default to the system preference. Both Windows and macOS have a system setting for dark mode. Scott > On Nov 1, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > So, now we've branched off 12.6, and we know that the next release > will be NetBeans 13, re

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Eggers
That's probably fine as long as the platform-specific LAFs don't get broken down the road. I wonder how much effort it would take to come up with a reasonable palette that would work for red-green color deficient eyesight. . . . just my two cents /mde/ On 11/1/2021 6:21 PM, Eirik Bakke wrote

RE: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
Perhaps if there's a lot of people who prefer the platform-specific LAFs, other than myself. But otherwise I'd say just go with FlatLAF, and leave the customization to the Preferences dialog. There's something nice about NetBeans working "out of the box" for beginners, with carefully chosen def

Re: [EXT] Re: NetBeans Plugins Connection Problem

2021-11-01 Thread Eric Bresie
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Re: Graduating Friend APIs to Public APIs (Web Commons)

2021-11-01 Thread Eric Bresie
Silly question, what is necessary to make API public(i.e. what file needs to be change)? On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 9:01 PM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Just file a PR, that makes the API public. Generally we have no issue to > do so. The reviewers might take a brief look on the exported API-s, but > t

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Eric Bresie
Would it be worth allowing selection of LAF at install time? Maybe a wizard with other customization (plugins, language, fonts, formatting, etc.)? This may take a page from Intellij but maybe.., On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:02 PM Mark Eggers wrote: > I just played around with FlatLaf Light on Ubun

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Eggers
I just played around with FlatLaf Light on Ubuntu 20.04 and NetBeans 12.5 The fonts look much clearer than they have been. It's "bright", but then I suppose that's what the light version is supposed to be. I'll see how tired my eyes get after a day or so of using. I can always revert. It loo

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Michael Bien
On 01.11.21 15:01, Neil C Smith wrote: So, what do you think? For or against? Maybe also add what you do use, and light or dark, in a reply - it might make some sense if we defaulted to what the majority of us use in practise? I use dark at the moment. Maybe NB could somehow probe the window

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Michael Bien
+1 from me the GTK theme on linux has some problems on older gnome versions (e.g cinnamon which is a gnome 3 fork). So i would have to specify -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 to make it render properly. Switching to FlatLaf by default would fix that issue as side effect. There is also almost no use

Re: UTF-8 input is broken in Maven project

2021-11-01 Thread Michael Bien
PR has been merged, it should appear in the next rc build of 12.6. On 31.10.21 11:46, Vladimir Machat wrote: Great, it works! Thanks I hope it will make it into 12.6... On 31/10/2021 03:22, Michael Bien wrote: the hint that it was a maven specific issue helped me to find it relatively quickl

RE: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
> I’m on windows. Did you see the latest Windows LAF updates? They tidy up a lot of the remaining cruft that made the Windows LAF look dated--borders, toolbar draggers, window system tabs, default font etc. > I liked the UI (not the UX) from IntelliJ from the very first time. Other things aside

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread John Mc
Hi sorry It's was +1 on the overall suggestion of making FlatLaF the default UI for Apache NetBeans. I use the light version on both my Mac and windows laptop and find that's it provides a much cleaner experience for me than the current defaults. Regards John On Mon 1 Nov 2021, 19:11 Neil C Sm

AW: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Christian Lenz
I’m on windows. I like flat design so in general the FlatLaF is exactly what I wanted. I liked the UI (not the UX) from IntelliJ from the very first time. I also switched to FlatLaF due to the nice dark FlatLaF because we don’t have a good default dark one. Foe me all the default NetBeans theme

RE: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
> as Neil said, a lot of people don’t like the Default theme for Windows or mac > (me either). Are each of you on Windows, MacOS, and/or Linux? The Windows LAF was just overhauled, so more time may be needed to collect feedback: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2967 https://github.com/ap

AW: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Christian Lenz
+1 to make FlatLaF as default. You Always can switch back, if you want, but as Neil said, a lot of people don’t like the Default theme for Windows or mac (me either). At the end it is a matter of taste. I like dark most but I’m for making light Default and you can switch to dark if you want. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 18:48, John Mc wrote: > +1 for this. Can you clarify whether that was to what I said or what Eirik said? What LAF do you use? Thanks, Neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org Fo

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread John Mc
+1 for this. On Mon 1 Nov 2021, 18:26 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > +1 for changing the default LAF to FlatLAF on Linux > -1 for changing the default LAF to FlatLAF on Windows and MacOS. > > We have very good Windows and MacOS LAFs that match the native look of GUI > widgets (buttons, text fields, tool

RE: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Eirik Bakke
+1 for changing the default LAF to FlatLAF on Linux -1 for changing the default LAF to FlatLAF on Windows and MacOS. We have very good Windows and MacOS LAFs that match the native look of GUI widgets (buttons, text fields, toolbars, tabs etc.). This is a big advantage of NetBeans compared to Int

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Eggers
-0 on this. I am red/green color deficient. I've tried using FlatLaf several times, and I just could not get the color selection to work where everything was different and yet easy for me to read. I'll try again on 12.5, but for now I've stuck with the Windows LAF for my Windows systems and

Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
+1 on this one. Maybe if we could even the installer should be on FlatLaf (right now on GTK with dark schema, the license agreement text is white over white, need to select it to be able to read that.) I use FlatLaf Light for the release versions and FlatLaf Dark on the dev builds. On 11/1/2

[DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

2021-11-01 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, So, now we've branched off 12.6, and we know that the next release will be NetBeans 13, require JDK 11+, and hopefully ship with nb-javac included .. is it time we changed (improved?! :-) ) how NetBeans looks out of the box too? Should we consider FlatLaf (light or dark) as the default look a