> as Neil said, a lot of people don’t like the Default theme for Windows or mac 
> (me either).

Are each of you on Windows, MacOS, and/or Linux?

The Windows LAF was just overhauled, so more time may be needed to collect 
feedback:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2967
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3114

(Some recent MacOS/Aqua LAF rendering improvements as well: 
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2970 )

-- Eirik

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> 
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 3:25 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: AW: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

+1 to make FlatLaF as default. You Always can switch back, if you want, but as 
Neil said, a lot of people don’t like the Default theme for Windows or mac (me 
either). At the end it is a matter of taste. I like dark most but I’m for 
making light Default and you can switch to dark if you want.

I know there was a discussion about to add a dialog at the very first start of 
NetBeans to make some simple stuff like change the LaF to light/dark and some 
other stuff like what IntelliJ do. But I also can create a plugin for this.


Cheers

Chris

Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Montag, 1. November 2021 15:01
An: dev
Betreff: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13?

Hi,

So, now we've branched off 12.6, and we know that the next release will be 
NetBeans 13, require JDK 11+, and hopefully ship with nb-javac included .. is 
it time we changed (improved?! :-) ) how NetBeans looks out of the box too?

Should we consider FlatLaf (light or dark) as the default look and feel from 
NetBeans 13?

This is partly prompted by working through a few JIRA tickets with HiDPI issues 
resolved by switching, a few snarky social media comments about NetBeans' 
appearance I've seen recently where the go-to replies seem to just be to tell 
people to switch to FlatLaf .. and the fact I'm constantly switching even when 
debugging because the GTK theme on Ubuntu is borderline unusable.

So, what do you think?  For or against?  Maybe also add what you do use, and 
light or dark, in a reply - it might make some sense if we defaulted to what 
the majority of us use in practise?

Best wishes,

Neil

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