Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, I think if the CND work Jan has done would be available in a branch or some repo at Apache, that would help a lot and we'd have a centralized starting point. Gj On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:39 AM Peter Kovacs wrote: > Hi all > > Does it make sense to create a separate donation repository? May

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-25 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi all Does it make sense to create a separate donation repository? Maybe similar to a mini incubator. I mean at ASF we can create multiple repositories, completely independent of the self service side. We put the oracle donations there, in separated branches packed to topic or donation pa

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-25 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Thank you for your time and help, Tomas, Ondrej. Junichi On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 11:58 PM Ondřej Brejla wrote: > > Hi all, > > yep, Tomas is right. > > Thanks, > Ondřej Brejla > > > 25. 2. 2020 v 15:38, Tomáš Myšík : > > > > Hi guys, > > AFAIR, this class simply splits the generated parser into

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-25 Thread Ondřej Brejla
Hi all, yep, Tomas is right. Thanks, Ondřej Brejla > 25. 2. 2020 v 15:38, Tomáš Myšík : > > Hi guys, > AFAIR, this class simply splits the generated parser into more smaller > ones (the parser class is too big and won't compile). The author is > Ondrej Brejla (on CC) who worked with me on NB P

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-25 Thread Tomáš Myšík
Hi guys, AFAIR, this class simply splits the generated parser into more smaller ones (the parser class is too big and won't compile). The author is Ondrej Brejla (on CC) who worked with me on NB PHP support at Sun (later Oracle). Or am I wrong, Ondro? Thanks, Tomas út 25. 2. 2020 v 14:16 odesílat

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-25 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Hi Geertjan, If it is not donated, we can't put it in an apache repository. (Although I think it is better to exist in the apache repository.) If it is removed in the future, I'll create a repository for it with my GitHub account, maybe. I'm not sure whether there is a problem if we don't use it b

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:47 AM Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > We use [1] when we generate PHP parser files. Is it going to be donated? > Hi Junichi, Is it critical to include this and what does it do exactly and if it were to not be donated (it is outside the release repository whi

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
But those are just two wrappers, OK, added them: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition Gj On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:48 PM Sven Reimers wrote: > I think you missed > - o.jython > - o.jython.distro > > they belong logically to the python support... > > Hope I do

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-20 Thread Sven Reimers
I think you missed - o.jython - o.jython.distro they belong logically to the python support... Hope I do not miss anything else.. Sven Geertjan Wielenga schrieb am Do., 20. Feb. 2020, 13:49: > I think we may have skipped this for some reason: > > https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file > > Wh

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think we may have skipped this for some reason: https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file Which ones should we include, in addition to php/parser.cutter? Gj On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 1:47 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Sure, why not -- wasn't it included in an earlier donation for some reason? >

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sure, why not -- wasn't it included in an earlier donation for some reason? Gj On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 1:43 PM Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > Oracle won't donate this? > https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file/tip/php/parser.cutter > > Thanks, > Junichi > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:32 PM Geertjan

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-20 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Oracle won't donate this? https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file/tip/php/parser.cutter Thanks, Junichi On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 9:32 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > OK, it is now clear what the 6th and final donation of NetBeans from Oracle > to Apache will consist of: > > https://cw

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, OK, it is now clear what the 6th and final donation of NetBeans from Oracle to Apache will consist of: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition It will consist of community-xml, community-uml, JIRA, and a subset of the modules found in contrib. In the last

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-17 Thread Jesse Glick
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:13 PM Eric Bresie wrote: > Silly question how easy is it to migrate some contrib code into a module? If you are talking about contrib *modules*, which most of contrib is, then…it is already a module. So I am not sure what you mean. How easy is it to migrate it into the

Re: RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Eric Bresie
e :D > > Best Regards > Eric > > > -Message d'origine- > De : Sven Reimers > Envoyé : jeudi 13 février 2020 20:54 > À : dev > Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache > > Okay. Let's look at this in more det

(community-uml) Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Eric Bresie
Was curious, I tried previously to compile the community-uml project previously and encountered problems [1]. Not sure if my problem was the java 11 in use in the environment or old code needing updating... Never received any feedback and have not had a chance to look at it since nice but was

RE: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Eric Barboni
not an issue. We receive, we slice we "fit the pieces together" and we prepare release :D Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Sven Reimers Envoyé : jeudi 13 février 2020 20:54 À : dev Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apac

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all, I am trying to somehow comb through all the contrib modules and will be posting ideas and questions as I dig them up... Anybody out there thinking Schliemann was a good idea? There is a lot of stuff in contrib with respect to this... @Zoran Sevarac something of interest from an educatio

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Sven Reimers
Okay. Let's look at this in more detail: 1. major features like python and xml-schema or similar -> should get back into a primary place, e.g. own cluster for python maybe own cluster for xml-schema (could be consolidated with other xml-tooling). 2. single / simple feature modules from contrib

Re: Multi module projects. (was Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache)

2020-02-13 Thread Ernie Rael
On 2/13/2020 10:28 AM, Jesse Glick wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:07 PM Ernie Rael wrote: I work with a multi-module plugin. Can it be built/packaged with maven and loaded by NB out of a repository Out of a Maven repository? The NB module system knows nothing about that. I was thinking the

Re: Multi module projects. (was Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache)

2020-02-13 Thread Jesse Glick
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:07 PM Ernie Rael wrote: > I work with a multi-module plugin. Can it be built/packaged with maven and > loaded by NB out of a repository Out of a Maven repository? The NB module system knows nothing about that. You produce NBMs. Example: https://github.com/stapler/netb

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Jesse Glick
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 11:27 AM Sven Reimers wrote: > I would assume that all things we pick up from the remaining stuff will end > up in the main NetBeans repository OK, in that case I guess they would be dumped in `nbbuild/cluster.properties#nb.cluster.betauc` until someone decides to promote

Multi module projects. (was Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache)

2020-02-13 Thread Ernie Rael
On 2/13/2020 7:18 AM, Jesse Glick wrote: ... discard the very notion of a contrib repository ... and use either the external Ant harness or (preferably) Maven to build against a particular NetBeans binary platform. Something I've been wondering; I work with a multi-module plugin. Can it be bui

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Sven Reimers
I would assume that all things we pick up from the remaining stuff will end up in the main NetBeans repository and with this as a part (can be configured) of NetBeans XYZ release... -Sven Jesse Glick schrieb am Do., 13. Feb. 2020, 16:18: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:27 AM Nils Hoffmann > wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Jesse Glick
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:27 AM Nils Hoffmann wrote: > Will the contrib projects move into the main NetBeans git, or will they be > hosted in a separate repository? My recommendation would be neither: discard the very notion of a contrib repository (deleting any references from `nbbuild/` and `a

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-13 Thread Peter Kovacs
cool, thanks Sven, I will come back with questions. ;) I will try to build them then first. Am 11.02.20 um 20:43 schrieb Sven Reimers: Regarding community-xml I already have a working version oatched from latest hg to run with 11.3, including update of all forms to GroupLayout Swing style

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-12 Thread Nils Hoffmann
Hi, I would take over stewardship of the contrib LicenseChanger plugin if Tim Boudreau does not object. Will the contrib projects move into the main NetBeans git, or will they be hosted in a separate repository? Best, Nils > Am 13.02.2020 um 05:43 schrieb Ernie Rael : > > A few that I use an

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-12 Thread Ernie Rael
A few that I use and haven't been mentioned * Show and change line endings (don't see it in contrib, owned by jlahoda) * License changer (don't use often, but when I do...) -ernie On 2/11/2020 2:46 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, At this stage, now that the C/C++ donation is complete

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-12 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Hi Geertjan, We use [1] when we generate PHP parser files. Is it going to be donated? Maybe, we can put it in [2]. [1] https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file/tip/php/parser.cutter [2] https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools Thanks, Junichi On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:46 PM Geertjan Wielenga wro

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-12 Thread Jesse Glick
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > As well as "contrib", but surely not all of "contrib": > > https://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file That URL hangs for me, but anyway I have a local clone. Modules I had a hand in (that I can recall now!): · ant.freeform.samples · apis

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread antonio
Hi all, +1 for community-xml (a must, IMHO) and Python support (if it can be donated by Oracle). I'd be interested in using the XML Schema Editor (best of breed, I think), not sure if that's in community-xml or community-soa, though. And that's it for me. I know there're lots of good thing

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
That’s really excellent news, thanks Sven. Gj On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 20:43, Sven Reimers wrote: > Regarding > > community-xml > > I already have a working version oatched from latest hg to run with 11.3, > including update of all forms to GroupLayout Swing style and some theming > prototype to

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Sven Reimers
Regarding community-xml I already have a working version oatched from latest hg to run with 11.3, including update of all forms to GroupLayout Swing style and some theming prototype to make it look smooth with FlatLaf Dark... So count me in here community-uml Quite large. Got a running poc with

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Geertjan, Am Dienstag, den 11.02.2020, 11:46 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > As well as "contrib", but surely not all of "contrib": > > https://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file > > There's also the community repositories and code that has not been > worked > on for many years: > > commun

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Oliver Rettig
Hi, I am working with python and I am also interested in python development with Netbeans. Some years ago I have used the python-netbeans-plugins and it works fine for me. I remember that I run only into trouble in combination with some specific build configuration of existing python project

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Ernie Rael
I'm interested in python. Before considering reviving it in NB, is/was this python integration pretty complete? Are the alternatives (whatever they might be and not necessarily part of netbeans) so much better that NB python is a real longshot? In particular, does/would this attract users? The

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Assuming they can be used in Apache. Gj On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 1:01 PM John Mc wrote: > Cool, then we can re-create the wrapper modules as needed then. > > Might be a chance to update them at the same time. > > Regards > > John > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 11:58, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread John Mc
Cool, then we can re-create the wrapper modules as needed then. Might be a chance to update them at the same time. Regards John On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 11:58, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:41 PM John Mc wrote: > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > I've identified other resources

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:41 PM John Mc wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > I've identified other resources required when it comes to JIRA, we actually > But these dependencies do not belong to Oracle and hence cannot be donated by Oracle. It looks to me, from that list, that only these are Oracle's to

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Peter
I try. But I am not very experienced on netbeans code at all. Do you have any hints what to look for. My first attempt would be to try and build. Same I do for cnd. Am 11. Februar 2020 12:28:55 MEZ schrieb Geertjan Wielenga : >https://hg.netbeans.org/community-xml/file >https://hg.netbeans.org/c

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread John Mc
Hi Geertjan, I've identified other resources required when it comes to JIRA, we actually had a list of services all along: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/master/nbbuild/cluster.properties#L1154 These extra ones are dependencies on the existing JIRA rest client used, that I noticed as I

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://hg.netbeans.org/community-xml/file https://hg.netbeans.org/community-uml/file The community-xml repo is 2326 files and community-uml is 6365 files. That's a lot of files of old code that has not been worked on for years. The danger is that we'll get this code donated and then find that t

Re: [DISCUSS] Wrapping up Oracle's donation of NetBeans to Apache

2020-02-11 Thread Peter Kovacs
I think the community XML and uml are interesting modules. The features will help to improve developing support my main project OpenOffice. I am interested to help on those modules with the goal to improve the dev environment of OpenOffice. All the best Peter Am 11. Februar 2020 11:46:27 MEZ