Hi,
We build NB platform applications that shall run on 8 LTS. In our industry,
it is not easy to upgrade to 8+. No problem to move ahead as long
compatibility whith 8 is preserved.
Cheers,
JMB
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:13 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about sto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:12, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> (there was a nasty backward incompatible change
> in the JDK, with some method on ByteBuffer getting changed to return
> ByteBuffer instead of Buffer, which has catastrophic consequences at
> runtime if you mix code compiled against JDK 8 and JDK
FWIW, I still run NetBeans daily on JDK 8, for reasons of stability -
particularly assertion errors and other misbehavior from javac-related
editor code, whenever I've tried to use 10 or later.
And similarly, for libraries, everything I release on Maven central is
still built against JDK 8 (there
Wow, that's a massive negative!
My first intention to pop up this thread was such concerns to turn up.
On 2/27/20 4:29 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
čt 27. 2. 2020 v 2:13 odesílatel Laszlo Kishalmi
napsal:
Dear all,
What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
12.1
To my understanding this suggestion does not imply dropping the ability to
compile for Java 8, NetBeans is being build on Java 8 and can compile for
lower sources. This would mean that NetBeans will be build with Java 11 and
it will need at least Java11 as a runtime (netbeans_jdkhome) and like toda
Eirik
-Original Message-
From: Michele Costabile
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:55 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Pull the plug from Java 8 in 12.1?
I think that dropping the ability to compile for Java 8 should be out of
question, because there is a large adoption
I think that dropping the ability to compile for Java 8 should be out of
question, because there is a large adoption of the platform and there are a few
license free alternatives, like Amazon Corretto, so even corporate developers
do not need to flee away from JDK 8 to protect the company from p
I would totally agree on that one. (Especially as have 20 years of legacy code
reliant upon JDK8.
Dave Irving
On Thursday, 27 February 2020, 07:59:54 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
I think we may be a bit too eager to drop JDK 8. :-) Bear in mind that
would leave us supporting only one
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 10:00, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> One thing to consider is that some/several application servers require JDK
> 8, or at least, when running NetBeans on a release later than JDK 8, a
> prompt appears when starting a server (GlassFish, Payara, etc) forcing a
> JDK 8 to be sele
Well, maybe we could discontinue nb-javac from 12.0 onwards, assuming the
javac tooling by then does most/all we need, which would not mean that the
OracleLabs scenario below is impacted since that use case is unrelated to
the Java editor, which is the only place where nb-javac is relevant. I.e.,
w
čt 27. 2. 2020 v 2:13 odesílatel Laszlo Kishalmi
napsal:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
-10
OracleLabs is building the GraalVM tools on top of NetBeans Platform. The
tools include such popular applications like VisualVM.
Completely agree with you. The most affected would be platform application
developers.
Do we have data on that?
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 7:13 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
> Neil mentioned it in t
One thing to consider is that some/several application servers require JDK
8, or at least, when running NetBeans on a release later than JDK 8, a
prompt appears when starting a server (GlassFish, Payara, etc) forcing a
JDK 8 to be selected prior to the server being able to be started.
Gj
On Thu,
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 01:13, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on? .. Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding that we
> have issues
> with nb-javac from time to time.
Thanks for kicking this off! I would sa
I also feel it is a bit too early. Java 8 is still common in
production - for example this suggests 64% Java 8, 25% Java 11:
https://snyk.io/blog/developers-dont-want-to-leave-java-8-as-64-hold-firm-on-their-preferred-release/
(i know this is not necessarily a representative survey)
For people wor
Hi all,
I am not against it completely but in my opinion before dropping JDK 8 as
NB running JDK the following points must be addressed:
- Compile on Save functionality still requires nb-javac (even on JDK 11)
- Some application servers cannot run on JDK 11 this would mean needing
a use
I think we may be a bit too eager to drop JDK 8. :-) Bear in mind that
would leave us supporting only one LTS release of the JDK, i.e., JDK 11.
Gj
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 08:46, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Two comments:
> -I know some people that have NetBeans platform application, and target JD
Hi,
Two comments:
-I know some people that have NetBeans platform application, and target JDK
8. I hope they'll comment here.
-regarding JDK 11 and (nb-)javac - while the Java editing using JDK 11's
javac is possible, I think it still leaves a lot to be desired (for
example, IIRC, there were some
+1 to drop Support for Java 8 in NetBeans 12.1. If someone still wants to
run it on Java 8 he/she can use a previous release.
Laszlo Kishalmi schrieb am Do., 27. Feb. 2020,
02:13:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
> Neil men
K version.
-- Eirik
-Original Message-
From: Josh Juneau
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:49 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Pull the plug from Java 8 in 12.1?
+1, for removing Java 8 as NetBeans runtime in 12.1. Many of us still compile
our code against Java 8 for Java EE
+1, for removing Java 8 as NetBeans runtime in 12.1. Many of us still compile
our code against Java 8 for Java EE projects, etc., but that should not prevent
NetBeans runtime from moving forward.
Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?
A decision long over-due.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:13 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
> Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding that we have issues
> with nb-javac from time to time.
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