Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-16 Thread Dmitry Avtonomov
To me it seems like the topic of having maven compatible binaries has come up once too many times. Maybe someone has a good example of a pom/gradle build file showing how to set everything up so that it can be compiled from source and installed into the local .m2 repo? On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 7:23

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-13 Thread Greg Stein
Sure thing! ... Lemme do some reading of the mail archives. Will follow up. Cheers, Greg Stein Infrastructure Administrator, ASF On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 14:23 David Nalley wrote: > Greg, > > Can you find a time next week to clarify what we can (or can't) do to > minimize the project's pain point

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-13 Thread David Nalley
Greg, Can you find a time next week to clarify what we can (or can't) do to minimize the project's pain points? --David On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 11:46 AM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 11:47 Eric Barboni, wrote: > > > Would be nice, but I don’t remember the discussion that allow to

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-13 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 11:47 Eric Barboni, wrote: > Would be nice, but I don’t remember the discussion that allow to do that. > It might have been something that came up in a video chat a few of us had with infra people about transitioning of websites, etc. It was a while ago now, but at some poin

RE: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-13 Thread Eric Barboni
Would be nice, but I don’t remember the discussion that allow to do that. Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Neil C Smith Envoyé : vendredi 13 septembre 2019 11:04 À : dev Objet : Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 09:31 Jean-Marc Borer,

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-13 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, 09:31 Jean-Marc Borer, wrote: > So Emilian, do you take the token and move, at least, all Maven and Javadoc > for 8.2 to OSUOSL? > Shouldn't we be putting Maven artefacts on Maven Central rather than OSUOSL? Best wishes, Neil >

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-13 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
So Emilian, do you take the token and move, at least, all Maven and Javadoc for 8.2 to OSUOSL? Greetings On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 5:50 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Fair enough, whatever works. :-) > > Gj > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 19:34, Matthias Bläsing > wrote: > > > Hi Geertjan, > > > > Am

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Fair enough, whatever works. :-) Gj On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 19:34, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > > Amount of data is a question of downloading the bits you want and then > > seeing how large that is. > > don't t

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Geertjan, Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 18:54 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > Amount of data is a question of downloading the bits you want and then > seeing how large that is. don't take this wrong, but that approach is the worst way to determine the amount of data. Someone with access to

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Amount of data is a question of downloading the bits you want and then seeing how large that is. I don’t see anyone asking about anything other than 8.2 so far. Gj On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 17:19, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 17:12 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielen

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 12.09.2019, 17:12 +0200 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: > Sure, everything. But indeed let's start with what we need most, i.e., 8.2 > related artefacts. > > You're the one who set up the OSUOSL storage, would be happy to help, but > if you suggest some kind of structure and a p

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sure, everything. But indeed let's start with what we need most, i.e., 8.2 related artefacts. You're the one who set up the OSUOSL storage, would be happy to help, but if you suggest some kind of structure and a process with steps for getting artefacts up there, I'd be happy to do it or be involve

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
I would move *everything* public facing that's on bits.netbeans.org. No need to purge anything if it's under an open-source license and OSUOSL can redistribute it. Older builds, older Maven repositories, maybe even Javadocs? On top of my list would be NetBeans 8.2 and the 8.2 maven repo. --emi

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Sure, let's do it, but for me the question is what precisely we want to move to OSUOSL storage, if we can have a list or start putting one together, we'll have a clear starting point. Gj On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 4:53 PM Emilian Bold wrote: > Doesn't sound silly at all. I was also very concerned

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
Doesn't sound silly at all. I was also very concerned about such matters. Now that we have the OSUOSL storage we have a place to save historical artifacts, it's just a matter of somebody (from the PMC, I guess) doing it. Besides the bits, you will find that bugzill is quite referenced in commits,

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:46 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Sure, I understand all those points, but does anyone know how long > bits.netbeans.org will still be online? Last week, there was an outage An outage of bits.netbeans.org? Or do you specifically mean http://bits.netbeans.org/maven2? Whe

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Which artefacts are we talking about? Gj On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 3:23 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hmm ok. > > Does it sound silly that I am concerned about the disappearance of the > legacy artefacts? > > What is you opinion and shall we invest any effort to save those artefacts? > > JMB > > On

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hmm ok. Does it sound silly that I am concerned about the disappearance of the legacy artefacts? What is you opinion and shall we invest any effort to save those artefacts? JMB On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:59 AM Emilian Bold wrote: > I doubt it will be live a few more years. Another year max un

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
I doubt it will be live a few more years. Another year max under Oracle IMHO. Under Apache it won't serve those old bits from Apache infra but could use OSUOSL. --emi joi, 12 sept. 2019, 14:46 Jean-Marc Borer a scris: > Sure, I understand all those points, but does anyone know how long > bits.n

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Sure, I understand all those points, but does anyone know how long bits.netbeans.org will still be online? Last week, there was an outage and, of course, exactly when I was testing our new artifactory. That is why I started wondering. If the bits.netbeans.org will remain live during a few years, t

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 09:48 Eric Barboni, wrote: > We could not move the artefacts to central because of the licence and the > groupid that are now for Apache NetBeans. > I'm not sure this is correct. At least, I remember us getting some advice about pre-Apache release artefacts that might allow

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Emilian Bold
t; > Not sure it worth the effort. > > Regards > Eric > > > > -Message d'origine- > De : Jean-Marc Borer > Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2019 13:34 > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org > Objet : Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org > > Wel

RE: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-12 Thread Eric Barboni
cally repopulated by getting old source from mercurial repo of Oracle NetBeans. Not sure it worth the effort. Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Jean-Marc Borer Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2019 13:34 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Well, I was wondering how long one could rely on legacy NB Maven artifacts such as NETBEANS72 or such hosted on bits.netbeans.org? I don't mind directly since we have finally migrated to NBP 11, but during a long time after the donation, we were still bound to NETBEANS82 and so do some plugins tha

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
What is it exactly that you need, as specifically as possible? Gj On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 13:00, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > And how long will bits.netbeans.org be maintained? Any input here? > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:32 AM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > Only source code is being donated by

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
And how long will bits.netbeans.org be maintained? Any input here? On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:32 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Only source code is being donated by Oracle to Apache and only the tip of > the source code it donates. > > Gj > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:29 PM Jean-Marc Borer > wr

Re: bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Only source code is being donated by Oracle to Apache and only the tip of the source code it donates. Gj On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 12:29 PM Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hi list members, > > How long is bits.netbeans.org supposed to be maintained and is there any > plan to migrate the legacy artifacts

bits.netbeans.org vs netbeans.apache.org

2019-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hi list members, How long is bits.netbeans.org supposed to be maintained and is there any plan to migrate the legacy artifacts (dependencies up to 6.5!!) to the new netbeans.apache.org repo? Cheers, JMB