css.lib Css3Parser antlr grammar

2018-08-07 Thread Jack Woehr
The 38766-line file org.netbeans.modules.css.lib.Css3Parser was generated by antlr from css.lib/src/org/netbeans/modules/css/lib/Css3.g Css3.g does not seem to be in the incubator-netbeans source tree ... Have I missed something? I do not know much about antlr usage, is the source extractable

Re: PHP 7.2

2018-08-07 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Upcoming+with+2nd+Code+Donation I'll update it later :) Thanks, Junichi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: Integration of 2nd Donation -- re-licensing.

2018-08-07 Thread Thilina Ranathunga
I think you referred the [1] List of Modules to Review . The work for the first donation is done. But, Table of assignments for 2nd Donation: List of Modules to Review

Re: Integration of 2nd Donation -- re-licensing.

2018-08-07 Thread Will Hartung
Looking at the wiki, I guess all of this work is essentially done already. Well, that was quick!

Re: 1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
At least 5, probably one or two smaller donations after that, see the end of this page, more or less up to date: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition Gj On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 10:47 PM, Boris Heithecker wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > can you say, how many more

Apache Jenkins Help Needed: Testing Snap package build

2018-08-07 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Just made the Subject more descriptive. On 08/07/2018 01:22 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Hi there! I need a bit of Jenkins help. We are preparing the Apache infrastructure to be able to build a Snap package out of our code. (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16728) I would need

RE: Error updating version in pom.xml

2018-08-07 Thread Kenneth Fogel
I was notified today that this bug has been located and squished. I assume the fix will appear in 9.01 or 9.1 although the notice stated that the fix is in the master now. Kudos to Matthias Bläsing for resolving this. Ken -Original Message- From: Brett Ryan Sent: July 31, 2018 6:53

RE: ApacheCon Montreal NetBeans Presentation Suggestions

2018-08-07 Thread Kenneth Fogel
Yes, please put ApacheCon on this page. Here are the details of my presentation: https://apachecon.dukecon.org/acna/2018/#/scheduledEvent/7e6b57d36ccd834f2 Ken -Original Message- From: Antonio Vieiro Sent: August 7, 2018 4:40 PM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re:

Re: 1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Boris Heithecker
Hi Geertjan, can you say, how many more donations do we expect from Oracle? There's been a second donation now, and someone has mentioned a third one to come soon. I'd just like to have an idea of the overall amount of work that still needs to be done. Boris 2018-08-07 16:32 GMT+02:00 Kai Uwe Pel

Re: ApacheCon Montreal NetBeans Presentation Suggestions

2018-08-07 Thread Antonio Vieiro
So we can update our events page at http://netbeans.apache.org/community/events.html, right? That page requires some love... El El mar, 7 ago 2018 a las 18:33, Kenneth Fogel escribió: > This year ApacheCon is happening here in my home town of Montreal. I will > be presenting “What Makes

Testing Snap package build

2018-08-07 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Hi there! I need a bit of Jenkins help. We are preparing the Apache infrastructure to be able to build a Snap package out of our code. (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16728) I would need somebody who can configure a simple job for test purposes on Apache Jenkins Grid. The job

Re: ApacheCon Montreal NetBeans Presentation Suggestions

2018-08-07 Thread Will Hartung
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > Parts of that could be useful, though you probably want to focus on the key > features and demos and so on -- and I think you could do everything in > Apache NetBeans 9, after installing the

Re: ApacheCon Montreal NetBeans Presentation Suggestions

2018-08-07 Thread Kai Uwe Pel
Hello Ken, thanks for your message about the ApacheCon in Montreal. Sounds very promising! Hopefully, a lot of NetBean users, old and newcomer, will be there! Regards, Kai On 8/7/2018 6:33 PM, Kenneth Fogel wrote: This year ApacheCon is happening here in my home town of Montreal. I will

Re: Public vs. Friend API Reloaded (Round 1)

2018-08-07 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Thanks Oliver! On 08/07/2018 10:10 AM, Oliver Rettig wrote: Hi, I have read the complete mail discussion again and I tried to put all arguments into the wiki page. It is not perfectly finished, mabe I can spend some more time in it at the end of the week.

Re: Public vs. Friend API Reloaded (Round 1)

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Excellent, very clear and detailed. Gj On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Oliver Rettig wrote: > Hi, > > I have read the complete mail discussion again and I tried to put all > arguments into the wiki > page. It is not perfectly finished, mabe I can spend some more time in it > at the end of the

Re: Public vs. Friend API Reloaded (Round 1)

2018-08-07 Thread Oliver Rettig
Hi, I have read the complete mail discussion again and I tried to put all arguments into the wiki page. It is not perfectly finished, mabe I can spend some more time in it at the end of the week. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Public+vs+Friend+API Hope this helps.

ApacheCon Montreal NetBeans Presentation Suggestions

2018-08-07 Thread Kenneth Fogel
This year ApacheCon is happening here in my home town of Montreal. I will be presenting "What Makes NetBeans Special" on September 25th. This may be the first Apache conference now that NetBeans is part of the foundation and it appears that this is the only session on NetBeans. What I'd like to

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread John Jacoby
Hey everyone, I’ve used Netbeans for PHP development since 2002. As you might assume, the JDK release cycle is mostly irrelevant to me as a user, as it is not a dependency for any of my work. That said, I do think it is rather convenient to download and install the entire package as it is

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Oliver Rettig
Thanks Peter for clarification. Isnt it possible to have an apache update center, which includes only apache-netbeans-ide updates? Or is this incompatible with the apache release procedure? > Badly worded by me, module update issue is where the update center will be > located > > On Tue, 7

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Peter Steele
Badly worded by me, module update issue is where the update center will be located On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 15:54 Oliver Rettig, wrote: > > Phycologically people feel they have a more modern system if it updates > > more frequently. There should be no reason why minor items can't be > > released

Re: Using 8.2 plugins in 9.0

2018-08-07 Thread Peter Steele
Useful tip for those editing confluence, you can select dates for the table by typing // to bring up the date selector. The dates in the table are then sortable. On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:35 PM Oliver Rettig wrote: > +1 and thanks > > Hi all, > > > > On the Slack channel and elsewhere there's

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Oliver Rettig
> Phycologically people feel they have a more modern system if it updates > more frequently. There should be no reason why minor items can't be > released quickly in a more agile way. I suspect though we need to move out > of incubator status for that because there are a lot of rounds of approval

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Will Hartung
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Peter Steele wrote: > This is a personal thing but I would like to get the updates without > downloading a new version of the ide every time. Letting the ide auto > update would be nice. I guess that could only happen when the module update > issue is resolved > >

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Peter Steele
Phycologically people feel they have a more modern system if it updates more frequently. There should be no reason why minor items can't be released quickly in a more agile way. I suspect though we need to move out of incubator status for that because there are a lot of rounds of approval before

AW: AW: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Christian Lenz
As geertjan already said and I mentioned it as often as I can, NetBeans is more than Java, for years. I know atm It is only Java but the rest and more will come soon. So it doesn’t make sense to me to have NB 9 to set it to JDK 9 and Maybe 10 and then have NB 11 to JDK 11. If you see NetBeans

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Chuck Davis
Just saying that with early releases of JDK12 now shipping I don't see the point of a NB10. The versions of NB9 I'm using already have JDK11 features being included. Further, NB is Java. While it may provide functions to other languages, so far it IS Java. So Java implementation level still

Re: AW: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Oliver Rettig
I like sync with supported JDK version but now we have 9.0 and this already supports JDK 10. Maybe the next releases can be 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4, 9.5 ... next version every 3 months If we have included all donations we can switch to 10.0 If netbeans supports JDK 11 then we switch to 11.0 and

Re: 1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Kai Uwe Pel
Actually, it was an excellent event. Just learned a lot about the agenda such like ... news, updates, and the coming road-map of Apache NetBeans. Thanks to Geertjan again for creating and managing this first virtual meetup event in full satisfaction! Thank you again for such an

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Also, Apache NetBeans is more than Java-focused, and the question is also whether such prominence for Java should be given to the extent that the JDK releases should be followed at all, i.e., whether this should be an aim of the project. It's certainly open to discussion but definitely not a

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Just as a quick FYI: Both JDK 9 and JDK 10 are supported in Apache NetBeans 9, i.e., no, we've not skipped JDK 10. Gj On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Chuck Davis wrote: > To me it makes sense to have NB reflect the level of Java implemented. For > example, features of JDK 11 can be added

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Chuck Davis
To me it makes sense to have NB reflect the level of Java implemented. For example, features of JDK 11 can be added incrementally to NB 9.1, 9.2, etc. (schedule is irrelevant to me -- every 3 months is fine) but when the full function of JDK 11 is included then NB 11 should be released. I

Re: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

2018-08-07 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 at 14:33, Eduard Karel de Jong wrote: > Would it make sense to have that script be integrated in to our build tools? In the RCP ant harness there's a task for this at https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/apisupport.harness/release/suite.xml#L391 Might be

Re: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

2018-08-07 Thread Eduard Karel de Jong
I's be available to use my Mac mini server as slave. Also, I did improve on the script to wrap NB in an Mac app bundle that was announced a couple of days back. I provided my updates on GitHub to the author, who hasn't responded yet. Would it make sense to have that script be integrated in to

Re: 1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's the audio, there were about 10 people in attendance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tibK6A8CzYs It was really quite nice and here's how to sign up for the next ones: https://doodle.com/poll/xueimbynzam7sri7 The idea is for each meeting to be an hour in length. Thanks all! Gj On

RE: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

2018-08-07 Thread Delfi Ramirez
Hi Emilian: Please what do you mean by “hook them up”? I may be able, not sure, to assist you in the matter if needed cheers Delfi Ramirez Segonquart Studio https://segonquart.net From: Emilian Bold Sent: 07 August 2018 13:36 To: Jim Jagielski Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org;

RE: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

2018-08-07 Thread Delfi Ramirez
Hi Emilian: Please what do you mean by “hook them up”? I may be able, not sure, to assist you in the matter if needed cheers Delfi Ramirez Segonquart Studio https://segonquart.net From: Emilian Bold Sent: 07 August 2018 13:36 To: Jim Jagielski Cc: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org;

Re: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

2018-08-07 Thread Emilian Bold
I also have macOS machines I could use here. I just don't know how to hook them up as official Apache NetBeans build slaves. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 7 August 2018 3:17 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > If we lack the slaves, I can sign up to do the community builds, as I do for >

Re: Apache-Netbeans-9.0-MacOSX

2018-08-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
If we lack the slaves, I can sign up to do the community builds, as I do for AOO. > On Aug 3, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Emilian Bold > wrote: > > We have an existing JIRA issue for this, the author should also create a > GitHub PR. > > Making the DMG is indeed quite nice. I also have a 20 line

Re: 1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Well, sign up for the next ones: https://doodle.com/poll/xueimbynzam7sri7 I recorded the whole thing and am processing it and will upload it on NetBeans YouTube channel. Gj On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS wrote: > Sorry just saw the email. Will there be any summary of the

Signature of stable modules

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
FYI, another release-related task to remember: http://wiki.netbeans.org/SignatureTest Gj

Re: Using 8.2 plugins in 9.0

2018-08-07 Thread Oliver Rettig
+1 and thanks > Hi all, > > On the Slack channel and elsewhere there's been discussion around the need > for everyone to know which 8.2 plugins actually work in 9.0. > > So, here's a page where we can document that: > >

NetBeans javadoc at Apache

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, We need to think about where to put our javadoc: http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/ This is how to build it: ant -buildjavadoc All the javadoc is already donated, since it comes from the donated source files. One of the ZIPs generated from the above consists of HTML files.

AW: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Christian Lenz
We had the discussion earlier and afaik the Outcome was every 3 months to be competitive and get more Features, fast in it. 6 months is far to Long, when some competitors have it once a month or every 3 months. Cheers Chris P.S. I’m fine with every 3 months to have 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4 and for

Re: 1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS
Sorry just saw the email. Will there be any summary of the meeting? On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 at 12:29, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > In half an hour from now, the first of the virtual meetups will take place: > > Agenda: > > 1. Apache NetBeans status, roadmap, and release cycle. > 2. 2nd

Re: Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 at 09:46, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > However, a separate discussion is about release numbers. Our current > release is 9.0. How do we decide to number the other releases? A simple > proposal might be to have our major release in August of each year and then > all then make all

1st Apache NetBeans Virtual Meetup

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, In half an hour from now, the first of the virtual meetups will take place: Agenda: 1. Apache NetBeans status, roadmap, and release cycle. 2. 2nd donation and work that needs to be done in this area. 3. Open questions on anything not working for you, issues, etc. Feel free to sign up

Apache NetBeans Release Cycle

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, We've discussed this informally, i.e., the topic of the release cycle/cadence, a few times over the past months. Let's nail it down as far as possible so that we can give clarity to our users about our intentions and also to enable us to organize features coming in through donations and

Re: PHP 7.2

2018-08-07 Thread Kai Uwe Pel
Yeah, I have already tested it yesterday with Junichi's support as well :) It works like a charm :) Thanks to Junichi again !!! Cheers, Kai On 8/7/2018 10:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: Hi all, And I suppose this is mainly aimed at Junichi, our fantastic NetBeans PHP developer. :-) So,

Using 8.2 plugins in 9.0

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, On the Slack channel and elsewhere there's been discussion around the need for everyone to know which 8.2 plugins actually work in 9.0. So, here's a page where we can document that: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Using+8.2+Plugins+in+9.0 If you don't have access

Re: Cannot perform instant rename here

2018-08-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great, Sarvesh, if you can identify where this problem is coming from and can provide a PR to fix it, would be great. Gj On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Sarvesh Kesharwani < sarvesh.k.kesharw...@oracle.com> wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I can reproduce the issue and would be happy to look into it,