Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-05 Thread Carlos Rovira
Ok Alex, I end with that change for home best, Carlos 2018-01-05 2:54 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui : > Yes, looks ok to me. > > Thanks for making the changes. > > -Alex > > On 1/4/18, 4:05 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" > wrote: > > >Hi Alex, > > > >this one is MIT: > >http

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Yes, looks ok to me. Thanks for making the changes. -Alex On 1/4/18, 4:05 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" wrote: >Hi Alex, > >this one is MIT: >https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fundraw.co >%2Fillustrations&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.c

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
I changed the second to test that sag icons (multiple target and devices) let me know if it's ok 2018-01-05 1:05 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > Hi Alex, > > this one is MIT: https://undraw.co/illustrations > > so I think this ok for us right? > > > > 2018-01-05 1:01 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > >> Hi

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, this one is MIT: https://undraw.co/illustrations so I think this ok for us right? 2018-01-05 1:01 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > Hi Alex, > > I'll see other options. In fact that part of the home was done only as > something temporal and I want to replace for other material > > 2018-01-

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, I'll see other options. In fact that part of the home was done only as something temporal and I want to replace for other material 2018-01-04 18:46 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui : > Carlos, > > Even if we "can" use ET-Line on the website, can we replace it now with > something ALv2 compatible?

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Alex Harui
Carlos, Even if we "can" use ET-Line on the website, can we replace it now with something ALv2 compatible? That way we won't have to revisit this topic later, and I can make my mockup look more like your site, which might help me continue to keep working on Royale full-time. Please? -Alex On 1/

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Justin, as stated by apache legal in the ticket where we discussed the website, is perfectly legal, since our website is only a marketing tool and no something that users will download as part of Apache Royale technology that we build. In case we want to make a website build with royale and pr

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Fonts are perfectly legal! They are available in Google Fonts! :)\ Most of the fonts used (e.g. Hind Siliguri, Open Sans Condensed, Oswald, Signika and Source Sans Pro) are available from google fonts and under either the open font license or the APv2 license so there’s no issue with thos

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Piotr, Fonts are perfectly legal! They are available in Google Fonts! :) I created a Release website thread to get it published ASAP let's get move on 2018-01-04 12:41 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki : > If fonts have incompatible license and it looks like it has, we > unfortunately have to replace

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Olaf, my global opinion always was that the website is only marketing thing. We are not releasing it as a product, and that's what apache legal said, so we should not we worried about it. We are not publishing nothing ilegal, and with things that we can't use. All is based on WP and a theme tha

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
2018-01-03 21:22 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui : > > Great, so please help us create those parts by telling more about the > fonts and colors you are using. > Hi Alex, inside the WP admin interface, in theme options you have a font section where all of you can see what fonts are used for each part (Appea

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
If fonts have incompatible license and it looks like it has, we unfortunately have to replace it by some other one. If we would like to confirm we should raise a jira for Legal. That's my thoughts. Let's move forward, because that discussion takes too long and I don't see any end. Thanks, Piotr

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
As for your questions: 1) Yes we should do as Alex suggested. We should remove, or put in that place information that it will be filled once we release things. We can put there link to the section with Nightly Build. 2) Nightly build is enough for now. Thanks, Piotr 2018-01-04 12:24 GMT+01:00 C

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Carlos, During past 4 weeks I have sent link to nightly build of Royale at least 20 times to several people. :) Yes for me it is worth to have website right now. I'm not sure what do you mean that people can't use Royale at all. Yes they can - I'm working every day on my examples using Nightly bu

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-04 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Piotr, site has the right info right now. But there's key points to release. For example: * Should we remove NPM zones as Alex suggest? or wait for Om to end NPM version?, but to do this, first we need to release * I think many people here said that we need at least a first release, so people c

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Maybe you can get it here but it seems to me that licensing is not really > clear [1]. It’s reasonably clear that it's GPL as I said the other day. See [1] (see point 6 under registration) and [2] which states "As always, these icons are completely free to use, and have been released unde

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Olaf Krueger
> Can you tell me where I can get a free and open source > et-line font? Maybe you can get it here but it seems to me that licensing is not really clear [1]. If this is an issue, maybe we could find a replacement for the icons at font awesome? >I would appreciate your >help instead of telling

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/3/18, 6:50 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" wrote: >I agree as well with what Olaf said. For me having parts of the Royale >website done with royale is sufficient. Great, so please help us create those parts by telling more about the fonts and colors you are using.

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Carlos, 2018-01-03 15:50 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira : > I agree as well with what Olaf said. For me having parts of the Royale > website done with royale is sufficient. > > @Alex, the icons in website are as well free and open source from various > icons sets out there like font awesome and line ico

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Carlos Rovira
I agree as well with what Olaf said. For me having parts of the Royale website done with royale is sufficient. @Alex, the icons in website are as well free and open source from various icons sets out there like font awesome and line icons and others. Again, nothing that you should waste your valua

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Gabe Harbs
I agree. > On Jan 3, 2018, at 6:57 AM, Olaf Krueger wrote: > > Hi, > I would just like to mention that from my point of view it I would be really > helpful to have a first Royale release soon, e.g. 0.9.0. > After that, Royale could evolve by minor versions like 0.9.1, 0.9.2, etc. > > I agree wi

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-03 Thread Olaf Krueger
Hi, I would just like to mention that from my point of view it I would be really helpful to have a first Royale release soon, e.g. 0.9.0. After that, Royale could evolve by minor versions like 0.9.1, 0.9.2, etc. I agree with Carlos that there is still a way to go regarding missing stuff and the de

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-02 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
I really like doing things and moving forward. I see only one problem in case of website which has been raised - License. If you guys figure out whether problematic stuff is ok, we should export and public that website now. There is no point to wait, building new one using Royale can always happen

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-02 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/2/18, 9:48 AM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" wrote: >Hi Alex, > >Please explain what is ET-Line, I don't know what you refer with that. >The fonts used are from Google Fonts, so I think there's no problem at all >since is what 99% of the sites use today. >Colors as w

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Jan 2, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > > For Adobe, to sell Royale, I think will be easy if we build a basic app > that looks pretty good. Adobe likes things done simple with good graphics. Royale is not an Adobe project. At Apache we are about software for the public good w

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-02 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, Please explain what is ET-Line, I don't know what you refer with that. The fonts used are from Google Fonts, so I think there's no problem at all since is what 99% of the sites use today. Colors as well are impossible to be keep by a license, and I used what I thought was right to me. So

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-02 Thread Alex Harui
Yes, Happy New Year to one and all. I couldn't figure out what to snip, so I'm top-posting... I've been buried with compiler and build process work, so it has been months since I actually tried to build something from the very beginning. Maybe we can get some other folks to try to build something

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2018-01-01 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex and all, And first of all Happy new year to all of you! Hope 2018 be a great year for all of you! :) 2017-12-30 8:50 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui : > > I agree with what you say. What I am suggesting is making enough changes > to the site to attract people who can help us create a "most usable

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-29 Thread Alex Harui
Hi Carlos, Comments inline.. On 12/29/17, 5:21 PM, "carlos.rov...@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira" wrote: >Hi, > >thinking about all of this this days...to be honest my point of view is to >release a cool image (website and more) of Royale as soon as we have the >most usable product. > >I

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-29 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi, thinking about all of this this days...to be honest my point of view is to release a cool image (website and more) of Royale as soon as we have the most usable product. I think we don't have yet and for that reason (and due to a ton of work) I didn't make more progress. My fear is that putti

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-29 Thread Piotr Zarzycki
Hi Alex, +1 for point 1. I think we don't have to wait for the NPM if we go to with your IDEA. Let's see what Carlos will say. I do also agree with you that we should slowly start create replacement in Royale of our website. Thanks, Piotr 2017-12-29 9:04 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui : > Couple of tho

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-29 Thread Alex Harui
Couple of thoughts: 1) Should we alter what Carlos has in some way so that we can put a copy of it up on royale.a.o now and update it again after the first Royale release? I would rather have a nicer site now that has links to useful things. If a better site can bring in more folks between now a

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-22 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Alex, Many things to cover here, I agree with some and not with others: * About the MXML initiative to search a way for more productive HTML layouts, that's very cool. * The repetition in HTML as you said is so cumbersome. The way Flex always handled that was through components, dataproviders,

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-22 Thread yishayw
I also think this is a great initiative. Regarding SEO there are some optimizations that can be applied to single page apps as well so maybe it's worth testing that before we convert it to a multipage. I'm not in front of the computer but when I am I'll share the links I read, if there's interest i

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-22 Thread Harbs
FYI, with cache enabled the page load was so fast that there was no noticeable browser redraw! I’m blown away by the performance! > On Dec 22, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Harbs wrote: > > 2. The speed that the page loaded is incredible. First draw was less than a > second and fully loaded was less than

Re: Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-22 Thread Harbs
Some thoughts: 1. This is a great initiative! 2. The speed that the page loaded is incredible. First draw was less than a second and fully loaded was less than 2 seconds — with cache disabled. 3. Ultimately I think this is the way we want to go, but getting the polish on this right will take a s

Royale and Websites (was Re: About website actual work in progress)

2017-12-22 Thread Alex Harui
Hi, First, thanks to Carlos for all of the work he's been putting into the future Royale web site. While waiting on something from Infra, I decided to try to approximate the home page that Carlos has been working on [1]. I wanted to do so for the following reasons: -try to eliminate the dependen