Ted Husted wrote:
On 8/22/05, Rich Feit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
p.s. In some ways, JSF is a direct competitor to ASPX in ASP.NET, which
is still figuring out the whole navigational-controller thing. In the
rare event that I imagine myself to be on a "side", in a "battle", I
consider my
On 8/22/05, Rich Feit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> p.s. In some ways, JSF is a direct competitor to ASPX in ASP.NET, which
> is still figuring out the whole navigational-controller thing. In the
> rare event that I imagine myself to be on a "side", in a "battle", I
> consider myself to be on the s
I consider the "JSF-is-hopeless" megaphone to be hype also. :) I
really do think JSF has great potential, especially as tools vendors
latch onto it. What I object to is the "JSF-is-here-Struts-is-dead"
hype. My personal belief is that JSF itself -- the technology that was
described in David
There is nothing new about JSF. In net terms it is old news
On 8/21/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/15/05, Rich Feit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In general, I agree with the sentiment that there's a lot of hype in
> > this arena, and not all of it is easily backed up. But the
On 8/15/05, Rich Feit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In general, I agree with the sentiment that there's a lot of hype in
> this arena, and not all of it is easily backed up. But the Struts
> community has always been a bit hype-adverse, no?
Once upon a time, people were saying the same sort of thi
Ted Husted wrote:
Once upon a time, people were saying the same sort of things about
custom tags that people now say about JSF. It's too new, it's too fat,
scriplets are faster.
I've started coming arround, due to Faclets and some other minor
improvments (if I was ever to do an HTML site aga
rote:
>
> >FYI
> >
> >http://jroller.com/page/dgeary
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:44 AM
> >>To: Stru
st 11, 2005 8:44 AM
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Subject: Re: JSF vs. Struts
I personally think all this exploration is a Very Good
Thing(tm). There
are a vast number of different ideas out there as to how a modern
application framework should be built. Mistakes have been
made over the
years,
framework, and if it meets your needs, give it a shot.
> >>Just as not every web application is the same, neither is their needs
> >>for a framework.
> >>
> >>Don
> >>
> >>On 8/10/05, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
FYI
http://jroller.com/page/dgeary
> -Original Message-
> From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:44 AM
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>
>
> I personally think all this exploration is
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> > From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "MyFaces Discussion" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 200
I figured it was something like that :) Would have been a bit of a
bombshell to drop matter-of-factly otherwise :)
I'm reminded of a scene from Babylon 5 where Londo and Vir are
conspiring to kill the emperor and they are talking about after they
poison him, depending on how fast the poison a
Haha, no I meant "undergo", darn it :)
Don
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
Don Brown wrote:
Of course, there will be Struts
classic still for a long time to come which will continue to forego
active development.
Is that actually what you meant to say Don? Isn't that saying that
Struts Classic
Don Brown wrote:
Of course, there will be Struts
classic still for a long time to come which will continue to forego
active development.
Is that actually what you meant to say Don? Isn't that saying that
Struts Classic is in maintenance mode only from here on out?
I understand people are ex
;
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> From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MyFaces Discussion" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:29 AM
> Subject: Re: JSF vs. Struts
>
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> currently the are *forking* :)
>
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To: "MyFaces Discussion" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: JSF vs. Struts
currently the are *forking* :)
Struts Ti
see here:
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Subject: Re: JSF vs Struts
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:25:13 -0400, Rick Reumann
wrote:
>
> We're thinking about using Flash forms for some things. Will they plugin
> nicely to JSF?
>
Hooking up the output side of that should be a piece of cake ... write
some components th
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> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:25:13 -0400, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > We're thinking about using Flash forms for some things. Will they plugin
> > nicely to JSF?
> >
&
way they've tackled the same problems.
Thanks,
Jacob Hookom
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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:28 AM
To: 'Struts Developers List'
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The MyFaces open source project is currently becoming
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> The MyFaces open source project is currently becoming an
> official Apache project through the Apache Incubator.
> MyFaces has some custom com
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> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:13 PM
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:27 AM
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Would there be any interest in starting an Apache JSF implementation with a
component repository for the open source
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:25:13 -0400, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> We're thinking about using Flash forms for some things. Will they plugin
> nicely to JSF?
>
Hooking up the output side of th
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