on the screen.
So if it didn't work it wasn't the fault of the ALPS controller or the EC.
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antitheft magic and staining the carpet.
It does/will. My 36c has that fix in it.
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response packets are not causing a WOL.
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MJPEG (roughly /10)
is still pushing it.
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verify that the values changed. If they did and its still broke then w
will have to look at other things.
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where as we like to call
it XO. The newer Li shipping regulations required the battery to have
specific markings on it for Wh capacity. I suspect the change happened
in response to them.
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hurt except that your SOC will be out
of whack for a while.
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too. If you become un-synced how do you
resync?
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understanding of these options would be
useful in defining our future roadmaps.
If you port to Qt then for just a a little more effort you get android
as well as there's a Qt-on-android in progress.
http://code.google.com/p/android-lighthouse/
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Perhaps what I'm thinking about was in email... I'll have to dig.
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On 06/14/2010 02:46 PM, Paul Fox wrote:
a lot of work was done for ubuntu on XO-1. much of that work might be
applicable as well. i don't have a link handy, i'm afraid.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ubuntu_Lucid_on_OLPC_XO?
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(for 1 G memory) / 4 GB
(for 512 M memory). The .zd file is roughly half the size of the
populated portion of the OS image, so we would be able to NANDblast up
to about 16 G of OS image.
I recommend that we set the filesystem block size to 16 KiB.
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On 07/01/2010 09:26 PM, James Cameron wrote:
On hard reboot (with power button for 5sec) ...
I hope you didn't do this during a firmware reflashing. That would be
bad.
Power button is disabled during a reflash.
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if the system really wakes up and
then if not then re-issue the wakeup.
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, use the new POSIX calls.
gettimeofday() and friends will be subject to the 1 second RTC accuracy
sync problem.
[1] we have some test code that stops the EC timers too. (only watchdog
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have one. Until we get one
or until someone in the community works on it this will just be ideas.
We have also veered off thread...The original questions/responses were
on what happens _now_, not what we should be doing. I'd like to
understand the existing issues first.
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into RF density issues even when using APs.
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On 08/24/2010 11:39 AM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
On 08/24/2010 10:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote:
Consider the benefits of using open source software versus our
closed source firmware and partnering with communities like
Freifunk whose
. Its a very
important feature of mesh but its just not the feature we need on the
ground ATM. However, if the same mesh smartness also gets density
without using AP's then that's a big win.
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On 08/24/2010 11:45 AM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
On 08/24/2010 10:13 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote:
Consider the benefits of using open source software versus our closed
source firmware and partnering with communities like Freifunk whose
have to produce a SDIO
module for it first.
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to see definitive numbers not just speculation.
Like you said. There are AP's that will do all the fancy Tx power
management without any mesh-routing.
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attenuator.
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On 08/24/2010 01:43 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote:
On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
They are only able to achieve this with 30dB attenuators on the
signal. We would want to see what one can do with stock cards without
an attenuator.
Can we adaptively get the signal down
pin 36.
Its an edge trigger signal and the WLAN should pulse it over and over
if it doesn't see communication from the host.
Make sure that you check your kernel logs and see if the EC wakeup mask
is not set to mask the WLAN wakeup.
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On 08/25/2010 11:59 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
There are other directory we can hide /home/olpc/power-logs.
If you want this hidden then you have to hide it yourself. Its where it
is and visible intentionally.
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and change the LOGFILE= to somewhere disk based. Note: that the path
to the logfile must exist.
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with the 1.5. I've seen this happen on other firmware upgrades.
I believe its related to bug #10073. If you happen to find a way to
reproduce it on demand then we would like to hear about it but otherwise
its known. Thanks for the report though.
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to
watch the clock line on the touchpad interface and see how long its held
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questions with good detailed descriptions on
how to duplicate the problems you are having I'll see that it makes it
to conexant for testing and feedback and make sure they have the proper
hardware to test it on.
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hard power offs little as
possible. Suspend/resume also should be disabled.
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On 11/24/2010 09:53 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
or so from the last write. I recommend you do hard power offs little as
possible. Suspend/resume also should be disabled.
My statement is not 100% accurate. The external SD card can remain
powered in suspend so you don't have to disable sus/res
think it makes sense to hardcode them until such time as I have
calibration in the EC code and then the kernel can ask the EC (or OFW
via DT for them)
[1] I have no idea where those values came from. I'm changing them in
1.75 to be more sane.
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(Keil)
to build a mostly free (except for PS/2) EC for 1.75, but we're near to
replacing the non-free compiler and the non-free PS/2 code at the same
time. As always, we welcome your help!
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On 02/23/2011 09:27 AM, Ismael Schinca wrote:
Hi everyone. I would like to know if there's any way to check from the
openfirmware or os prompt the voltage from the rtc battery.
Thank you!
Nope. You have to use a voltmeter.
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on battery and have
power management enabled then I'm also interested in your power-logs.
Both XO-1 and XO 1.5
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Can someone give me a quick rundown of how we are managing timezones so
I know what to look at to determine this?
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found 61 of them that had that value set to
something other than GMT or UTC. Granted that most of those files where
generated by me and I didn't know about that control but I also have a
lot of logs from users.
Thanks for the info.
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along for
the ride when we started building newer XO-1 firmwares.
We should disable that command for XO-1.
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sugar's time zone is isolated from the rest of the system as described
here.
Thanks for clearing that up. I've checked on build 860 and `date`
reports the timezone selected via the control panel. So that gives me
what I need.
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its not even a regression. :) Few people knew it existed so it never
got tried. Now that menu is a regular part of a tech users vocab we
should fix it or disable it on the next XO-1 firmware release.
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terminal anyway but I'll have to make
sure I tell them that. Thanks.
Its unfortunate for the powerd logs but not a showstopper. The
panel-pwr script doesn't use powerd because we fight over the rtc for
wakeups.
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to make a
reasonable estimate of data write lifetime we would be happy to start
using them.
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Is there any sledgehammer process available to users without a super
secret tool ?
Wasn't just secret to users. They would not give us the info on how to
do it either. It was vendor specific so not really worth the effort of
trying to reverse engineer.
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the
critical level sooner.
Whats the serial number of your battery? You may also want to run a
olpc-pwr-log run with that battery so you can determine what the actual
capacity of the battery is.
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On 03/24/2011 09:15 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
Whats the serial number of your battery? You may also want to run a
olpc-pwr-log run with that battery so you can determine what the actual
capacity of the battery is.
Even better you are in a position to help me figure out how best to deal
.
Please do a charge/discharge cycle while running olpc-pwr-log.
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? If so then you can use it to
quickly read the battery serial number. I find them very useful when
dealing with a large number of batteries.
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and you can also see by
looking at the file. It's a bash script.
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On 03/24/2011 10:31 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
If you run _exactly_ the same test under the same conditions. Same
temperature, same test duration, same XO, then it might be possible to
compare the current voltage,
Battery temperature will also be a concern. If you test the discharge
the EEPROM. However, I don't have any idea how accurate it is.
Its legacy code that I've never had a reason to examine closely. I'll
examine the code that does that in detail and then add decoding of the
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On 04/04/2011 06:05 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
Attached to this email is q3a62a.rom. This is a pre-release of new XO
1.5 firmware with MPPT code enabled. It is also available at:
Sorry about the attachment. I was sending copies of this to all the
deployments to test and didn't think about
.
Even if you plan to recycle the 008 batteries please continue to
include them in the your tests. That way I can build up a profile of
what the _actual_ capacity loss over time vs my estimates.
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On 04/04/2011 06:22 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
There is one known problem. On your very first flash you might lose the
keyboard/mouse. You can prevent this by doing a full power cycle of the
EC. ie no ext power and no battery.
New version:
http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q3a62b.rom
This one
On 04/05/2011 12:47 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
Latest version.
http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q3a62e.rom
This one really fixes the keyboard problem. This is what I hope to be
the final test release.
In addition to the normal does this work for you. I need one specific test.
Please flash
panel-pwr log? That would be useful info for me.
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that some
of them trip the PV check and so it starts charging slowly. This quick
check feature is a new addition and I'm still fine tuning the values.
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you send the rest of the .csv files I'll summarize the results.
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important to use
pm-suspend because I use the pm-utils hooks to run some scripts after
resume.
What sort of power source do you have? The XO battery won't last that
long in suspend.
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On 04/28/2011 04:18 AM, James Cameron wrote:
2 Machines both: Q3B02 1.5 C4 prototype
#1 Mfg ID: 0x03 OEM ID: SD Name: SU04G Rev: 8.0 Date 2009-9
regular: 00:11:00
sparse: 00:06:19
#2 Mfg ID: 0x1d OEM ID: AD Name SD Rev 1.0 Date 2010-4
regular: 00:09:37
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with those racks, i suspect the effects
won't be as severe as with vertical stacking.
Its the other way around. The original problem was reported by people
using the racks. We just theorized that people who stack them would
also have a similar problem.
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the laptops in the middle were very
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On 07/07/2011 03:30 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Doesn't fix the download.laptop.org problem though:
bert$ traceroute download.laptop.org
traceroute to pedal.laptop.org (18.85.2.148), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
Things have not settled yet .148 is still the problem IP.
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I don't have mine handy but I have a OLPC serial adapater
What leads you to believe that the OLPC serial adapter needs firmware
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/ticket/11220/fstorture.sh which
uses sysrq to tell the kernel to do a hard reboot. Happy to replace
that with a direct EC command issued via debugfs if we have one.
I think you missed my response on IRC.
echo 4b:0 /sys/kernel/debug/olpc-ec/generic
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or use a signed firmware build.
And if you don't like it.. You can use the Serial Port on the XO... No?
No you can't. The firmware lockout happens before you get an ok prompt
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it
gets put in an official release.
http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q2f04rc.rom
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are getting corruption then its a not a
matter of 'if' but 'when' until you hit the bits that will break your
battery.
You can dump the battery EEPROM with 'bat-dump-banks' and take a look.
You should not see a long series of 0xff or 0x00 in the data.
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On 10/27/2011 11:45 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote:
Is the XO running or powered off?
Is it for a XO-1.5 or XO-1.5?
Oops. XO-1 or XO-1.5
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in different batteries. The 1.75
can consistently survive battery removal under moderate solar conditions
when connected to the OLPC 10W solar panel.
[1] Excluding connecting an external USB device drawing full power which
would be an extra 5W.
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Thanks to some great work by Paul Fox the previous problems with q2f04rc
should now be fixed.
Give this new version a try and see if it holds up:
http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q2f04rd.rom
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on this pre-release I think
its time to spin a new XO-1 release and then hand it off to .uy for them
to put it through the ringer before they roll it out.
Thanks to all the intrepid beta-testers.
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. Its in uAh. The range I use for good is 280-320
uAh. If your olpc-pwr-log is old enough that it doesn't have a net ACR
column then you can compute the value by subtracting the Full ACR value
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provide up to 5W to an external
device. If you were to also draw 5W from USB then the draw would be 10W
and your battery life will be much less. In between 1 and 1.5h. (The
harder you draw a battery the less capacity it can provide so its not a
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in the battery, something I found curious.
Was this on purpose or a glitch?
On purpose. Default powerd config will wake up and turn off the machine
if its been in-suspend for 4 hours.
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On 12/24/2011 03:30 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
Sugar leads to Rum, leads to power, leads to use of Sugar. Richard
needs to get to work on this one!
*gulp* I'm working on it right now.
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bittorrent server that you could work with via ssh and then get it
working. I'm only a casual bittorrent user.
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shot Jan 9, 2012 showing a 1.75 completely powered by our 10W thin-film
PV panel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITHNbOrPQyM
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damage.
Unless you are trying hardware modifications I doubt you will do
anything worse than these guys.
http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=2389.0
What exact are you going to try and push?
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.temp-rise
That should run the thermal test and print a pass fail message. It also
returns back a true or false on the stack for if the test passes or fails.
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Thanks, looking into that part of OFW code.
.temp-rise returns a ? from the OK prompt.
Ah... I see its part of the /switches node .
Try this:
ok select /switches
ok .temp-rise
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test not measuring the difference in temperature
between the 2 modes of operation?
No. The heat spreader test runs the cpu in a tight loop and watches the
rate of change in cpu temp. If it rises to quickly then the heat
spreader isn't making good contact.
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On 01/23/2012 12:23 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
Thanks, looking into that part of OFW code.
.temp-rise returns a ? from the OK prompt.
Ah... I see its part of the /switches node .
Try this:
oops.. forgot to get back out of that device node
number of the failed motherboards or is that
not lost?
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The thermal shutdown is not configurable and you can't bypass it.
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machine, edit the file and then re-compress it.
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classroom and send them to me and we can take a look at what sort of
profile you have.
What build are you basing your images off of?
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short term fix to be enabled on a per-deployment basis but
if this becomes the default then I worry all our work on making
aggressive suspend/resume work will begin to fade away because its never
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run a base line test then we can estimate what your life would be
if for say you added 20% of idle suspend on top of that.
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time to wait for a
'perfect' solution.
I wasn't suggesting that we don't come up with a workaround for your
current problem. I was commenting that adding a hook into sugars API
that globally disables suspend while collaboration is active is headed
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