Re: [SailfishDevel] xdg folder stuff: howto? more info

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
I am not sure, but maybe I caused the misunderstanding. My app (code) uses QStandardPaths, but was rejected. Harbour stated that I should use the XDG- based rules. So, I thought: what is wrong with QStandardPaths? Now -thanks to the comments up here- I understand that harbour was talking about

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Jonni Rainisto
IMHO (Only my personal view, not official answer). I would not copy readonly data to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/$NAME, I would only copy the readwrite parts off from usr/share/appname. And I would define the map data chmod 666 in spec so I could programitically remove the data.

Re: [SailfishDevel] xdg folder stuff: howto? more info

2014-01-09 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Thursday 09 January 2014 02:14 Robin Burchell wrote: On Wednesday 08 January 2014 09:22 Jonni Rainisto wrote: If QStandardPaths points to wrong directory then its a bug which should be fixed. On 09 Jan 2014, at 00:37, Thomas Tanghus tho...@tanghus.net wrote: Can we consider this as a

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
Thanks. On 01/09/2014 09:36 AM, Luciano Montanaro wrote: Maybe make the application download the map on the first run? mm.. I cannot afford time/money for a server + support. Only support for the app. On the long term, users themselves may set up sth to share maps. But you must be able to

[SailfishDevel] Howto ship QML plugins for harbour

2014-01-09 Thread dcaliste
Hello, I need to ship two system QML plugins with my app for it to validate the harbour recommendations. How can I do this ? Let's take the example of QtPositioning We have: [nemo@SailfishEmul devel]$ rpm -ql qt5-qtdeclarative-import-positioning /usr/lib/qt5/qml/QtPositioning

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
Thanks. On 01/09/2014 09:40 AM, Jonni Rainisto wrote: IMHO (Only my personal view, not official answer). I would not copy readonly data to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/$NAME, I would only copy the readwrite parts off from usr/share/appname. And I would define the map data chmod 666 in spec so I could

Re: [SailfishDevel] Listing of to use macros in .yaml?

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
OK.Thanks. On 01/09/2014 12:05 PM, Ruslan Nigmatullin wrote: Hello! SailfishOS is mostly like Fedora, so their rpm specs have compatible macroses: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM_Guide/ch09s07.html 09.01.2014, 01:16, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl:

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Ruslan Nigmatullin
I fear that removing installed files is bad idea as package manager can become crazy. 09.01.2014, 15:18, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl: Thanks. On 01/09/2014 09:40 AM, Jonni Rainisto wrote:  IMHO (Only my personal view, not official answer).  I would not copy readonly data to

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
It shouldn't. It will just ignore not existing files. On 09.01.2014 17:24, Ruslan Nigmatullin wrote: I fear that removing installed files is bad idea as package manager can become crazy. 09.01.2014, 15:18, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl: Thanks. On 01/09/2014 09:40 AM, Jonni Rainisto wrote:

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread winfried . dobbe
For other Linux distributions, the normal solution would be to package the maps in a separate rpm file. Then if the user installs his/her own maps, he can remove the standard maps package. Maybe you can do this as well? Winfried Thanks. On 01/09/2014 09:40 AM, Jonni Rainisto wrote: IMHO (Only

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Thomas Perl
Hi, On 09 Jan 2014, at 09:05, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl wrote: I am converting my aircraft navigation app to Sailfish. It comes (default) with OpenStreet based maps + 3D data files of Western Europe (in RPM). Most users will use this map, but some users may use their home made maps

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
Thanks. Maybe that's the solution. The default map would then be in rpm (in usr/share/). Deleting would require a rpm uninstall, while removing user maps (in home/) would be done from within the app. Might be a bit confusing, but it is the only solution. r wim On 01/09/2014 01:17 PM,

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Luciano Montanaro
And here you are: https://together.jolla.com/question/12655/packaging-and-distributing-data-files-or-plugins/ On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 09 Jan 2014, at 09:05, Wim de Vries wsvr...@xs4all.nl wrote: I am converting my aircraft navigation app to

Re: [SailfishDevel] File chooser

2014-01-09 Thread Siteshwar
Hi, There are few choosers available under Sailfish.Pickers module. They are not yet accepted in harbour however. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Caliste Damien damien.cali...@free.frwrote: Hello, Le vendredi 29 novembre 2013, Superpelican a écrit : IMHO a file picker/chooser/dialog should

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread Andrea Bernabei
hello :) was the phone really crashing (i.e. rebooting), or did you just mean the network connectivity kept crashing making the phone very slow and not very usable? I'm asking because I experienced the second :) 2014/1/9 Oliver Berger oli...@digitalarchitekt.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [SailfishDevel] Adding localization to sailfish app

2014-01-09 Thread Pekka Vuorela
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 14:59 +0100, Thomas Tanghus wrote: On Thursday 09 January 2014 14:36 Luciano Montanaro wrote: From the shipped application desktop files it looks like that is the way. Didn't even think of looking there. It seems only a few apps are translated that way: $ grep

Re: [SailfishDevel] Adding localization to sailfish app

2014-01-09 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Thursday 09 January 2014 16:16 Pekka Vuorela wrote: On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 14:59 +0100, Thomas Tanghus wrote: On Thursday 09 January 2014 14:36 Luciano Montanaro wrote: From the shipped application desktop files it looks like that is the way. Didn't even think of looking there. It

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread Oliver Berger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It was crashing resp. switching off even while taking pictures (like you are one instance before clicking and the screen turns black - mehhh ;)... I had to startup again enter my pin and so on... For me it was not responding with a black screen ==

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Valerio Valerio
On 09/01/14 16:05, Chris Walker wrote: On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:39:49 + Chris Walker cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk wrote: [mega snip] I have also just replied to AL13N (al...@rmail.be) closing this thread so we'll leave it there. Final comment on this. I created another new email

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Walker
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:02:17 +0200 Valerio Valerio valerio.vale...@jollamobile.com wrote: On 09/01/14 16:05, Chris Walker wrote: On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:39:49 + Chris Walker cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk wrote: [mega snip] I have also just replied to AL13N (al...@rmail.be)

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 09.01.2014 12:25, Wim de Vries wrote: Thanks. On 01/09/2014 09:36 AM, Luciano Montanaro wrote: Maybe make the application download the map on the first run? mm.. I cannot afford time/money for a server + support. if the data is 'free' (in the sense you don't want to specially protect

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Walker
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:34:14 + martin.gri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, those who experience their Jolla crashing out of the blue, can you please elaborate, to see if we're in the same boat? Did it switch off all of a sudden? Because I'm experiencing this repeatedly. I begin to see a

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Markus Svensson
Hi, I've never been able to get email fully working on the Jolla either. I can receive email via IMAP, but can't send via SMTP. I just get the Problem with sync message. Does the mail app log errors somewhere on the device? 9 jan 2014 kl. 16:22 skrev Chris Walker

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 09.01.2014 19:03, Markus Svensson wrote: Hi, I've never been able to get email fully working on the Jolla either. I can receive email via IMAP, but can't send via SMTP. I just get the Problem with sync message. Does the mail app log errors somewhere on the device? If you have

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi CDW What is your development host OS? For what is worth, I am running OSX - which does not (yet) support Developer-mode-over-USB-out-of-the-box-from-Jolla, but which can (easily) be got working using the horndis driver from http://joshuawise.com/horndis. Using that driver I can rip

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi Martin There is a comment indicating cell-tower as a cause in: https://together.jolla.com/question/7144/jolla-randomly-shuts-down/ Grüsse Chris Zitat von martin.gri...@gmail.com: Hi, those who experience their Jolla crashing out of the blue, can you please elaborate, to see if

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hi, On 09/01/14 17:22, Chris Walker wrote: On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:02:17 +0200 Valerio Valerio valerio.vale...@jollamobile.com wrote: On 09/01/14 16:05, Chris Walker wrote: On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:39:49 + Chris Walker cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk wrote: [mega snip] I have also

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi Chris, 2014/1/9, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch christopher.l...@thurweb.ch: There is a comment indicating cell-tower as a cause in: https://together.jolla.com/question/7144/jolla-randomly-shuts-down/ Yes, I know, because I wrote this comment. ;) Martin

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread christopher . lamb
I half suspected that ... but you use a very different avatar over there... Zitat von Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.com: Hi Chris, 2014/1/9, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch christopher.l...@thurweb.ch: There is a comment indicating cell-tower as a cause in:

[SailfishDevel] lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 license and copyrights

2014-01-09 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
Hello! I just want to ask about lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 package license, copyright and other. I hacked lipstick binary qml content and made a patch for supporting other devices with non-portrait framebuffer orientation. As you know on Nokia N9 system gestures rotated to 90 degrees

[SailfishDevel] Devel USB-mode withouth battery charging?

2014-01-09 Thread Jarkko Lietolahti
Hi, Is it possible to get developer mode USB connection but without battery charging? Br, Jarkko ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-09 Thread Martin Grimme
Well, I'm not using an avatar neither here nor there, so the sites pick some default. 2014/1/9, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch christopher.l...@thurweb.ch: I half suspected that ... but you use a very different avatar over there... Zitat von Martin Grimme martin.gri...@gmail.com: Hi Chris,

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread mourik jan heupink
Hi, I've never been able to get email fully working on the Jolla either. I can receive email via IMAP, but can't send via SMTP. I just get the Problem with sync message. Same here. Used an authenticating outgoing mailserver, tls on port 465. MJ

Re: [SailfishDevel] lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 license and copyrights

2014-01-09 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Thursday 09 January 2014, Andrey Kozhevnikov escribió: 1. Jolla making fix for supporting non-portrait framebuffers in lipstick. 2. I'm releasing patched lipstick with patched resources inside, if distribution of internal qml resources of lipstick is permitted. I imagine jolla will explain

Re: [SailfishDevel] lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 license and copyrights

2014-01-09 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
If you didnt noticed changes already here: https://together.jolla.com/question/12022/patch-for-lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-to-support-any-framebuffer-orientation/ On 10.01.2014 01:53, Alejandro Exojo wrote: El Thursday 09 January 2014, Andrey Kozhevnikov escribió: 1. Jolla making fix for

[SailfishDevel] D-Bus viewer touch

2014-01-09 Thread Alejandro Exojo
Hi. During this holidays I did an attempt at a port to Silica and SailfishOS the qdbusviewer. Is a really nice tool for learning how your system works, specially on a platform like this. By this time I would have expected to have something a bit more meaningful to announce, but the holidays

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Valerio Valerio
On 09/01/14 21:40, mourik jan heupink wrote: Hi, I've never been able to get email fully working on the Jolla either. I can receive email via IMAP, but can't send via SMTP. I just get the Problem with sync message. Same here. Used an authenticating outgoing mailserver, tls on port 465.

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread mourik jan heupink
Hi Valerio, Thanks, my bad! Changing TLS to SSL, and outgoing mail suddenly starts to work... At least MY problem is solved now :-) On 01/09/2014 09:14 PM, Valerio Valerio wrote: TLS uses port 587, SSL uses 465 ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing

Re: [SailfishDevel] Devel USB-mode withouth battery charging?

2014-01-09 Thread Julius Loman
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 09:38:05PM +0200, Tone Kastlunger users.giulie...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very good point, have been wondering the same... I don't think so. I've never seen such a device (USB connected without charging). If you really don't want charning - use WLAN, not USB. Works

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
Thanks Thomas for the explanation. Indeed, I think I will stick to a minimal persistent data set to enable the user to play with. For the open/free data I will have a look at SF. The maps created by the user (with an accompanying desktop application) will have to be copied to sailfish via

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Martin Kolman
9.1.2014 23:27, Wim de Vries: Thanks Thomas for the explanation. Indeed, I think I will stick to a minimal persistent data set to enable the user to play with. For the open/free data I will have a look at SF. The maps created by the user (with an accompanying desktop application) will have

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-09 Thread Markus Svensson
Hi Chris, I SSH'ed into the phone from my computer. Then edited the configuration file and restarted the message server. Then I could read the log file on the computer, where it's easy to scroll in the log file etc. reading the log on the phone would get ugly quickly, I imagine. Good luck -

Re: [SailfishDevel] D-Bus viewer touch

2014-01-09 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
Hi, Thanks! Just been looking for something like this. .kimmo Lähettäjä: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] k#228;ytt#228;j#228;n Alejandro Exojo [s...@badopi.org] puolesta Lähetetty: 9. tammikuuta 2014 22:12

Re: [SailfishDevel] How to install user (controlled) data files for my app avoiding /usr/share

2014-01-09 Thread Wim de Vries
On 01/09/2014 11:56 PM, Martin Kolman wrote: 9.1.2014 23:27, Wim de Vries: Thanks Thomas for the explanation. Indeed, I think I will stick to a minimal persistent data set to enable the user to play with. For the open/free data I will have a look at SF. The maps created by the user (with an

[SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-09 Thread Franck Routier (perso)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, currently, the Harbour QA process is quite frustrating, as problems are reported one after the other, with a delay of several days inbetween... reminds me of the old time cobol compilators! It would be cool if the efforts made by the developper