Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Johann Fischer
Am Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:44:57 +0100 schrieb Oleg Hahm oliver.h...@inria.fr: Hey Kaspar! If RIOT is BSD'ed, for *me* personally time spent on it is not fun time I like to in my unpaid spare time anymore, it becomes work that is also fun. Work others can (and will) sell under their terms.

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Matthias Waehlisch
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Johann Fischer wrote: If RIOT is BSD'ed, for *me* personally time spent on it is not fun time I like to in my unpaid spare time anymore, it becomes work that is also fun. Work others can (and will) sell under their terms. I totally don't get this point. How do

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Kaspar Schleiser
Hi, On 12/16/2014 12:44 PM, Oleg Hahm wrote: If RIOT is BSD'ed, for *me* personally time spent on it is not fun time I like to in my unpaid spare time anymore, it becomes work that is also fun. Work others can (and will) sell under their terms. I totally don't get this point. How do more

[riot-devel] AVR platform maturity

2014-12-16 Thread ROUSSEL Kévin
Hello everyone, It's been a few months now since an AVR device (Arduino Mega) port has been available in RIOT. Does somebody use it regularly? I would like to try some developments on AVR, and I was wondering if AVR support was production-ready, or if there was still rough edges to aware

Re: [riot-devel] AVR platform maturity

2014-12-16 Thread Ludwig Ortmann
Hi Kévin, On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:05:52PM +0100, ROUSSEL Kévin wrote: It's been a few months now since an AVR device (Arduino Mega) port has been available in RIOT. Does somebody use it regularly? I would like to try some developments on AVR, and I was wondering if AVR support was

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Emmanuel Baccelli
Hi Kaspar, On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Kaspar Schleiser kas...@schleiser.de wrote: As the man earning a shit load of money from one of these evil companies, using a proprietary smart phone, and buying Facebook goggles, working on RIOT for me is a very expensive hobby. I'm not sure I

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hey Kaspar! IMHO this is not a oooh how nice, someone found a way to make money out of this! good for them! situation. It has the possiblity to become a Oh nice. Those contributers write code we can sell and they don't want anything in return situation. I think it is both. And I understand

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Oleg Hahm
Hi Ludwig! So in that case, you can't even (legally) sell a product based on RIOT without it (and you) being mentioned. Referring to a discussion I had with Hauke over lunch: would have RIOT to be mentioned only in the code or on the sold product (let's say an Internet connected toy dinosaur)?

Re: [riot-devel] Switch to BSD?

2014-12-16 Thread Ludwig Ortmann
Hi, On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 06:42:37PM +0100, Oleg Hahm wrote: So in that case, you can't even (legally) sell a product based on RIOT without it (and you) being mentioned. Referring to a discussion I had with Hauke over lunch: would have RIOT to be mentioned only in the code or on the

Re: [riot-devel] AVR platform maturity

2014-12-16 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:10:48PM +0100, Ludwig Ortmann wrote: Hi Kévin, On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 03:05:52PM +0100, ROUSSEL Kévin wrote: It's been a few months now since an AVR device (Arduino Mega) port has been available in RIOT. Does somebody use it regularly? I would like to try