Re: [freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 06:16:39PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > It would be nice if the Freenet Windows installer could take the URL of > a distribution node from which it could download the files it needs, > rather than defaulting to the central server. Maybe with the option of just using the nod

Re: [freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
It would be nice if the Freenet Windows installer could take the URL of a distribution node from which it could download the files it needs, rather than defaulting to the central server. If there was some way that Freenet could distribute it, and somehow tell it what URL to default to - that wo

Re: [freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
> Yes, it had : UpdateSnapshot.exe has been superseded by just running > freenet-webinstaller (there's no point having two binaries that do > essentially the same thing). One nice feature would be that if the user's last update was to freenet-unstable, then this is the default for future upgrades

Re: [freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:43:02AM -, Dave Hooper wrote: > > Very nice! Seems to work fine for me here. > > Which OS is that? XP. > This will appear when the webinstaller has 'automatic' and 'custom' modes. > Automatic will just be the current "keep on clicking Next" variety, which > will i

Re: [freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Dave Hooper
> Very nice! Seems to work fine for me here. Which OS is that? I'd especially like people running non-Windows 2000 to test this version out if they can, as well as folks with older, slower hardware to see if the changes to java launching/killing have caused any unexpected problems. > I notice t

Re: [freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
Very nice! Seems to work fine for me here. I notice that updatesnapshot.exe no-longer seems to be part of the distro - is this deliberate? Further, with snapshot updating, (and/or during installation), it would be nice to give the user the option to install the unstable snapshot (with all app

[freenet-dev] Updated freenet.exe

2003-02-23 Thread Dave Hooper
Windows freenet systray app has been updated to periodically probe the Web Interface port on startup and only enable certain behaviour if a connection can be made. Specifically the following *won't work* now unless/until a connection can be made to mainport: 1. Specifying -open on command line t

[freenet-dev] Part 2 Follow Up

2003-02-23 Thread joshua herman
I forgot to put in the rules to the game SORRY. This would have been BAD Axiom 1 All chess rules Axiom 2 To capture a piece you must attack it 3 times Axiom 3 Geometry of Plane is a field N of size N (Important)(Note for my board game version I use a finite field for obvious reasons (Guess Why?) A

[freenet-dev] harmonic Function over N vectors

2003-02-23 Thread joshua herman
From: joshua herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun Feb 23, 2003 11:09:57 PM Etc/GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A game of chess in N and 1/2 Dimentions with curvature Or Proof of the Blue Rose Conjecture (Kullishnikov-Herman Theorm or The why don't we Do it In the Road Theorm) I sent this to

[freenet-dev] Kaffe stack traces

2003-02-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
These are the stack traces I've collected while running with Kaffe. They're from various versions, so the code may or may not line up with what's in current Kaffe CVS. -- Greg Wooledge | "Truth belongs to everybody." [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- The Red Hot Chili Pepp

Re: [freenet-dev] Safe virtual machines?

2003-02-23 Thread Josh Steiner
Matthew Toseland wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 12:48:35PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: Well, I am not sure why this would be useful, but if we were to do it, the best bet might be BeanShell (www.beanshell.org) - this is actually pretty cool generally, those that don't know of it might be interes

Re: [freenet-dev] Safe virtual machines?

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 12:48:35PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > Well, I am not sure why this would be useful, but if we were to do it, > the best bet might be BeanShell (www.beanshell.org) - this is actually > pretty cool generally, those that don't know of it might be interested > to take a look.

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Jay Oliveri
Small misunderstanding.. On Sunday 23 February 2003 03:51 pm, Ian Clarke wrote: > > It is kludgy to say the least if you're inserting data into Fred from > > another machine. The data sent back and forth over the wire (even > > through localhost) is simply unecessary and wasteful. > > Is this an

Re: [freenet-dev] Idea for determining self's IP, from behind firewall, using untrusted freenet nodes

2003-02-23 Thread Dave Hooper
> > A tries connecting to http://aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd/p/servlet/self and > > (That URL implies port 80) This shouldn't be done with a servlet, but > through FNP - or at least through the FNP port, since that's the port > that's going to be forwarded through NAT. Hrm, I actually meant to say: http

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
> It is kludgy to say the least if you're inserting data into Fred from > another machine. The data sent back and forth over the wire (even through > localhost) is simply unecessary and wasteful. Is this an argument for or against doing FEC in Fred? It looks like it is for. > Also, using Fre

Re: [freenet-dev] Safe virtual machines?

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
Well, I am not sure why this would be useful, but if we were to do it, the best bet might be BeanShell (www.beanshell.org) - this is actually pretty cool generally, those that don't know of it might be interested to take a look. Another possibility would be SISC (sisc.sf.net). This is a Java s

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Jay Oliveri
On Sunday 23 February 2003 02:37 pm, Ian Clarke wrote: > What is the point in forcing every client author to reimplement FEC > when the FEC code is already present within Fred? It is kludgy to say the least if you're inserting data into Fred from another machine. The data sent back and forth ove

Re: [freenet-dev] Safe virtual machines?

2003-02-23 Thread bdonlan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 23 February 2003 03:38 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Sometime in the Freenet 0.5 series, it would be really useful to include > some form of scripting. I believe if we include the interpreter in > fproxy, or generally somewhere in the web int

[freenet-dev] Safe virtual machines?

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
Sometime in the Freenet 0.5 series, it would be really useful to include some form of scripting. I believe if we include the interpreter in fproxy, or generally somewhere in the web interface code, and the code can only call methods that we provide, we can make it reasonably safe. So, we need some

Re: [freenet-dev] Kaffe with Freenet

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 12:26:10PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 07:47:13PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > After fetching Kaffe CVS, and following the instructions in > > http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-August/008819.html > > Cool, what about including a suitably

Re: [freenet-dev] Kaffe with Freenet

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 07:47:13PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > After fetching Kaffe CVS, and following the instructions in > http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-August/008819.html Cool, what about including a suitably patched Kaffe distro with the debian version until Kaffe get their ac

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
> to do with node/, so it _may_ make sense to run it on a separate port, > and keep low-level FCP simple. Well, I certainly agree that we should make a distinction between "low level" (or Level 1) FCP (what we have now), and higher level FCP (say, with splitfile support, redirect support etc) (l

[freenet-dev] Kaffe with Freenet

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
After fetching Kaffe CVS, and following the instructions in http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-August/008819.html I now have Freenet running on Kaffe. Hopefully the change or something similar will be merged with Kaffe CVS, and Kaffe 1.1 will be able to run Freenet out of the box. This woul

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:40:51AM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote: > > AutoRequester), run in a separate VM if we run the client code separate > > from the node, and with its own port. It might be a superset of low > > I am not sure I will ever understand those that argue that we should > run different t

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
> AutoRequester), run in a separate VM if we run the client code separate > from the node, and with its own port. It might be a superset of low I am not sure I will ever understand those that argue that we should run different things in different VMs. Requiring more than one concurrent JVM will o

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Ian Clarke
> I (personally) think FCP does what it does well, and currently don't see any > real need to add any major functionality. I agree with Gianni; "Adding an > extra layer that allows client authors to make essentially unbounded > demands on fred will not improve matters." Well, I am not sure I b

Re: [freenet-dev] Announcements, routingTime and DNS

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 11:37:29PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 11:17:05PM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote: > > > Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > > > > The diagnostic var "routingTime" is a measure of how long it takes to > > > > route a requ

Re: [freenet-dev] Trailing spaces

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 03:49:33PM +, Chris Dennis wrote: > If I enter a key such as > > SSK@/// > > into FProxy's Web Interface page (build 561), and carelessly type a > space at the end of the URI, I get a message telling me that there is > no document on the site called %20: > >

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 12:36:26PM -0500, Jay Oliveri wrote: > On Saturday 22 February 2003 08:56 pm, Ian Clarke wrote: > > > So how about fixing up FCP so that it can handle the FEC/splitfiles > > > just as automatically and transparently as fproxy? > > > > This was more-or-less the motivation for

[freenet-dev] Trailing spaces

2003-02-23 Thread Chris Dennis
If I enter a key such as SSK@/// into FProxy's Web Interface page (build 561), and carelessly type a space at the end of the URI, I get a message telling me that there is no document on the site called %20: Key Not Found in Manifest Network Error Couldn't retrieve key: SSK@//

Re: [freenet-dev] New site now up

2003-02-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as already mentioned before on this list, i agree, that hops is too fat on the new website! please double the width of the graphic, or repaint it if necessary. we all know freenet is slow and maybe fat, but at least hops does not need to be that, too ;) let's give him the diet he deserves, and le

Re: [freenet-dev] Document contains no data - fproxy insert

2003-02-23 Thread Martin Richtarsky
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:24:41 +, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> Inserting a large file (tested with 9mb) gives a "Document contains no data" >> when hitting Insert in fproxy. > >Verified. Believed to be fixed in current CVS. Somebody, possibly me, >but probably Bombe, fixed it and didn't increase t

Re: [freenet-dev] FCP - emphatic feature request

2003-02-23 Thread Jay Oliveri
On Saturday 22 February 2003 08:56 pm, Ian Clarke wrote: > > So how about fixing up FCP so that it can handle the FEC/splitfiles > > just as automatically and transparently as fproxy? > > This was more-or-less the motivation for having different FCP "layers", > each providing a higher-level API. U