Dejan Lekic wrote:
You guys are doing awesome job with GDC, thank you _VERY MUCH_!
GDC is the only D2 compiler for 64bit architecture...
Actually, there are no D2 compilers for 64 bit. GDC's support for D2 is
very minimal, I don't know how it compares to LDC's, but I'd guess they
were about
bearophile Wrote:
If even Andrei, a quite intelligent person that has written big books on C++,
may be wrong on such a basic thing, then I think there's a problem.
It can be good to create an html page that explains how some basic things of
D are implemented in the front-end. Such page
Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:15:27 -0700, Walter Bright thusly wrote:
bearophile wrote:
This part of the dialogue shows a possible usage for pure (or more
pure) languages: to correctly implement, avoiding to go mad, very
tricky transactional algorithms.
D's scope statement specifically addresses
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:53:57 -0400, bearophile
bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
If nonnull class references are added to D, then it can be good to add nonnull
struct pointers too, to avoid similar bugs.
(In C# for a struct you define a default one, that gets used by the compiler
as the default
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Yigal Chripun wrote:
On 29/09/2009 16:41, Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
What I argued about was your view on today's software being too big and
complex to bother optimize it.
that is not what I said.
I was saying that hand optimized code needs to be kept at minimum and
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:26:20 +0300, Max Samukha spam...@d-coding.com
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:53:57 -0400, bearophile
bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
If nonnull class references are added to D, then it can be good to add
nonnull struct pointers too, to avoid similar bugs.
(In C# for a
Saaa wrote:
bearophile wrote
Walter Bright:
No, it is done with one indirection.
If even Andrei, a quite intelligent person that has written big books on
C++, may be wrong on such a basic thing, then I think there's a problem.
It can be good to create an html page that explains how some
Don wrote:
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Yigal Chripun wrote:
On 29/09/2009 16:41, Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
What I argued about was your view on today's software being too big and
complex to bother optimize it.
that is not what I said.
I was saying that hand optimized code needs to be kept at
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
Saaa wrote:
bearophile wrote
Walter Bright:
No, it is done with one indirection.
If even Andrei, a quite intelligent person that has written big books
on C++, may be wrong on such a basic thing, then I think there's a
problem.
It can be good to create an html
Andrei Alexandrescu:
I wonder whether this would be a good topic for TDPL. Currently I'm
thinking it's too low-level. I do plan to insert a short section about
implementation, just not go deep inside the object model.
It's a very good topic for the book. Any good book about computer
Max Samukha:
Don't get confused by 'new' in struct initializers. Structs in C# are
value types.
Yes, you are right.
But in D structs can be allocated on the heap too, so I think having optional
nonnull struct pointers can be useful. The syntax and usage is similar to
normal struct pointers.
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:26:20 +0300, Max Samukha spam...@d-coding.com
wrote:
BTW, C# does have null-initialization problems regardless of flow
control.
I'll probably never learn to proof-read my opuses. It should have been
flow analysis.
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote
I wonder whether this would be a good topic for TDPL. Currently I'm
thinking it's too low-level. I do plan to insert a short section about
implementation, just not go deep inside the object model.
Andrei
I'd really love to see more about implementations as it
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Jérôme M. Berger wrote:
Michel Fortin wrote:
I fully support having a way to specify a default implementation for
a function in an interface. It might get handy for a few things (like
implementing the delegate pattern you see everywhere in Cocoa). But
it's a bad
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:44 PM, bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote:
Max Samukha:
Don't get confused by 'new' in struct initializers. Structs in C# are
value types.
Yes, you are right.
But in D structs can be allocated on the heap too, so I think having optional
nonnull struct
Jérôme M. Berger wrote:
Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Jérôme M. Berger wrote:
Michel Fortin wrote:
I fully support having a way to specify a default implementation for
a function in an interface. It might get handy for a few things
(like implementing the delegate pattern you see everywhere in
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:08:40 +0400, Jarrett Billingsley
jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:44 PM, bearophile bearophileh...@lycos.com
wrote:
Max Samukha:
Don't get confused by 'new' in struct initializers. Structs in C# are
value types.
Yes, you are right.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Denis Koroskin 2kor...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that C stdlib (and other libraries/bindings) will need to be updated to
reflect changes, e.g.
extern(C) void*? malloc(size_t size); // may return null!
which is great because it will provide additional safety.
Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:05:29 -0400, Jeremie Pelletier thusly wrote:
Don wrote:
Greater risks come from using more complicated algorithms. Brute-force
algorithms are always the easiest ones to get right g.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Those algorithms are pretty isolated and
really easy to
Does anybody know of any D libraries implementing or wrapping video codecs?
I need to read video files (AVI or MPEG would be fine) using DIVX,
XVID, or any other popular codec. In addition to playing those files in
a media player control, I need to extract individual frames and perform
various
Hello everybody,
I just received firm confirmation from Giovanni Asproni, the chair of
the ACCU 2010 conference, that a special one-day tutorial on the D
programming language featuring Walter Bright and myself is being
planned. The ACCU announcement will follow shortly.
Saaa wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote
I wonder whether this would be a good topic for TDPL. Currently I'm
thinking it's too low-level. I do plan to insert a short section about
implementation, just not go deep inside the object model.
Andrei
I'd really love to see more about
language_fan wrote:
Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:05:29 -0400, Jeremie Pelletier thusly wrote:
Don wrote:
Greater risks come from using more complicated algorithms. Brute-force
algorithms are always the easiest ones to get right g.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Those algorithms are pretty isolated
Benji Smith wrote:
Does anybody know of any D libraries implementing or wrapping video codecs?
I need to read video files (AVI or MPEG would be fine) using DIVX,
XVID, or any other popular codec. In addition to playing those files in
a media player control, I need to extract individual frames
On 2009-09-30 15:30:02 -0400, Denis Koroskin 2kor...@gmail.com said:
Note that C stdlib (and other libraries/bindings) will need to be
updated to reflect changes, e.g.
extern(C) void*? malloc(size_t size); // may return null!
which is great because it will provide additional safety. I've
On 9/30/09 22:42, Benji Smith wrote:
Does anybody know of any D libraries implementing or wrapping video codecs?
I need to read video files (AVI or MPEG would be fine) using DIVX,
XVID, or any other popular codec. In addition to playing those files in
a media player control, I need to extract
Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:05:18 -0400, Jeremie Pelletier thusly wrote:
language_fan wrote:
Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:05:29 -0400, Jeremie Pelletier thusly wrote:
Don wrote:
Greater risks come from using more complicated algorithms.
Brute-force algorithms are always the easiest ones to get right g.
language_fan wrote:
Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:05:18 -0400, Jeremie Pelletier thusly wrote:
language_fan wrote:
Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:05:29 -0400, Jeremie Pelletier thusly wrote:
Don wrote:
Greater risks come from using more complicated algorithms.
Brute-force algorithms are always the easiest ones
Michel Fortin:
For a return value it's
more troublesome because you're implicitly adding a promise that the
function will not return null, and you might not realize it's wrong
until it does indeed return null and your program crashes with a
segfault.
I see.
It's a matter of how much you
Andrei Alexandrescu:
Today's the last day of submissions, and of course the day I submitted
my proposals, but Giovanni took the time to discuss the D tutorial with
me and wrote (I quote):
I'm willing to consider also late submissions...maybe you can encourage
some D geeks ;-)
So, get on
Hi
This is the monthly status for the unofficial d wish list:
http://all-technology.com/eigenpolls/dwishlist/
I am closing this wish list.
New requests should be posted to bugzilla on http://d.puremagic.com/issues/
It would be a great help,
if you could help move some of the wish list items
On 30/09/2009 16:53, Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
Yigal Chripun wrote:
On 29/09/2009 16:41, Jeremie Pelletier wrote:
What I argued about was your view on today's software being too big and
complex to bother optimize it.
that is not what I said.
I was saying that hand optimized code needs to be
On 30/09/2009 18:44, bearophile wrote:
Max Samukha:
Don't get confused by 'new' in struct initializers. Structs in C# are
value types.
Yes, you are right.
But in D structs can be allocated on the heap too, so I think having optional
nonnull struct pointers can be useful. The syntax and
Yigal Chripun wrote:
On 30/09/2009 18:44, bearophile wrote:
Max Samukha:
Don't get confused by 'new' in struct initializers. Structs in C# are
value types.
Yes, you are right.
But in D structs can be allocated on the heap too, so I think having
optional nonnull struct pointers can be
Today's D has a very strong, principled notion of hijacking: for any
given function call, if the call candidates are found in different
modules, the call is invalid. I think that works great.
Lately I've been thinking of using the same notion of hijacking as a
replacement for symbol hiding in
On 2009-09-30 22:01:54 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org said:
Today's D has a very strong, principled notion of hijacking: for any
given function call, if the call candidates are found in different
modules, the call is invalid. I think that works great.
Lately I've
Phil Deets wrote
I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.
What exactly do you expect from supporting building?
I use descent to build my project by using the external tool setup shown
here:
Phil Deets schrieb:
I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.
D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.
Building is supported by using the external tools feature, though you
should really use
Hi, I think I've got what you want...
http://www.alexanderbothe.com/?id=27 - the D-IDE
A Bothe wrote:
Hi, I think I've got what you want...
http://www.alexanderbothe.com/?id=27 - the D-IDE
I just tried it (1.0.3.2) and it's still buggy: when I added files to
the project manager it also added as many directories, the manager
wouldn't let me scroll down either, and I've had
Trass3r wrote:
Phil Deets schrieb:
I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.
D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.
Exactly. I think the parser is ported up to 2.030 but I didn't test it a
lot
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:46:12 -0500, Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote:
Phil Deets wrote
I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.
What exactly do you expect from supporting building?
I use descent to
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:01:04 -0500, Trass3r mrmoc...@gmx.de wrote:
Phil Deets schrieb:
I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon. Thanks.
D2 support isn't that good in Descent yet.
Building is supported by
Phil Deets schrieb:
I had never heard of xfBuild. I'll look into it. It looks good based on
a brief look at their website.
Give it a try. It's much better than rebuild.
Though not yet as easily configurable as dsss.
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:05:37 -0500, A Bothe i...@alexanderbothe.com
wrote:
Hi, I think I've got what you want...
http://www.alexanderbothe.com/?id=27 - the D-IDE
I tried that. It has potential, but here is a list of problems I had:
* Unpinned panels don't collapse until you unpin a second
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:49:33 -0500, Phil Deets pjdee...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:01:04 -0500, Trass3r mrmoc...@gmx.de wrote:
Phil Deets schrieb:
I tried Descent, but it didn't work well at all with my D2 program. It
also didn't support building. I'll look into Poseidon.
Some documentation is at the official site:
http://wiki.team0xf.com/index.php?n=Tools.XfBuild
Well it's still a WIP.
Guess that directory thing isn't implemented properly yet.
Using a single module works fine for me, it tracks all dependencies and
compiles them.
Tom S wrote:
2) Perhaps a custom-fit Delorian will do.
DeLorean, even.
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1170
--- Comment #4 from Rainer Schuetze r.sagita...@gmx.de 2009-09-29 23:51:07
PDT ---
The patch only fixes the name lookup, not the forward reference. As described
in comment 1, you'll also need the patch from issue 102 to completely fix the
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3292
Don clugd...@yahoo.com.au changed:
What|Removed |Added
Summary|ICE(todt.c) when using a|ICE(todt.c) when using a
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3325
Don clugd...@yahoo.com.au changed:
What|Removed |Added
Keywords||patch
--- Comment #7 from
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3316
Don clugd...@yahoo.com.au changed:
What|Removed |Added
Keywords||patch
--- Comment #1 from
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3351
Summary: Reference diagrams
Product: D
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priority: P2
Component:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3352
Summary: RangeError in std.conv
Product: D
Version: 2.032
Platform: x86
OS/Version: Windows
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: Phobos
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3352
Andrei Alexandrescu and...@metalanguage.com changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3353
Summary: storage class of a member function is propagated to
default arguments
Product: D
Version: 2.032
Platform: Other
OS/Version: Windows
Status: NEW
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1012
--- Comment #4 from Rainer Schuetze r.sagita...@gmx.de 2009-09-30 14:48:47
PDT ---
Created an attachment (id=466)
convert TypeIdentifer refering to TemplateDeclaration to TypeInstance
I don't expect any additional ambiguities, because the
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