Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Christopher Nicholson-Sauls
I didn't get to go, simply because I could not make the time for it. (Isn't it always the way...) There are a few videos that I'm specifically waiting for, but perhaps more importantly I look forward to sharing them with specific people (the kind of people who might be able to convince

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread TommiT
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. Andrei I vote one video per day.

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On 2013-05-12, 02:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Kapps
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:55:03 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 02:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Dicebot
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-05-11 22:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote: He's serious. If you post them all at once, then each video gets minimal impact. A lot of people will look at one, maybe two, and then not bother with the rest, because all of them showed up at once, whereas if they're posted over a longer period of

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread John Colvin
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread MattCoder
On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 15:26:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/10/13 11:24 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On 2013-05-10 16:38, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Two a week. Is there a reason for this? Maximize impact. Andrei Well, just be careful because this could become a double edged

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Faux Amis
On 12-5-2013 10:47, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 02:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation, and

Re: Shameless autopromotion : type safe tagged union in D

2013-05-12 Thread SomeDude
On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 19:23:45 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote: On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 17:56:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: A general note about posting to reddit: it often happens that posts from infrequent posters go to spam by means of some automatic rule. When that happens you need to

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 9:14 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 5/12/13, Andrei Alexandrescuseewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. Let's take a quick poll on how often we should make new pull requests. I say let's limit ourselves to only

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Adam D. Ruppe
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. I kinda like the idea of one a day on monday/wednesday/friday. It'd be paced kinda like a college class then, easy to remember timing, and should keep

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 9:49 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. I kinda like the idea of one a day on monday/wednesday/friday. It'd be paced kinda like a college class then,

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread MattCoder
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:16:26 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/12/13 9:49 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. I kinda like the idea of one a day on

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
12-May-2013 17:49, Adam D. Ruppe пишет: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. I kinda like the idea of one a day on monday/wednesday/friday. It'd be paced kinda like a college class then,

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Nowakowski
On 05/12/2013 10:16 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I was also thinking mon/wed/fri would be a great schedule! +1, Reasonable compromise

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Diggory
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:16:26 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I was also thinking mon/wed/fri would be a great schedule! Andrei +1

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Alix Pexton
On 12/05/2013 01:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. Andrei I think 2 a week is about right. I watched Ali's twice, and might watch it again, I'm sure I've not taken it all in yet! If they are all released too quickly,

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 3:49 AM, John Colvin wrote: As frustrating as it is for non-attending enthusiasts like myself, I'd say stick with the current schedule. The marketing checks out. So far, it's been a big success on Reddit doing it this way. I've also seen a number of comments on Reddit and Hacker

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 7:16 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I was also thinking mon/wed/fri would be a great schedule! That does fit in with the observed phenomenon that a posting on reddit has a shelf life of about 2 days, and the statistics that posting on reddit on a weekend dooms it.

Re: Visual D 0.3.36 released - support for Alex Bothe's semantic analysis, LDC and profiling

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/11/2013 3:39 AM, Rainer Schuetze wrote: a new version of Visual D is long overdue, so finally it is released. In addition to the usual fixes of bugs and regressions, the major highlights of this version are This deserves a much higher profile. Few people know about it. Can you write a

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sat, 11 May 2013 20:22:57 -0400 Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand or expectation,

Re: Help With an Article Image

2013-05-12 Thread Paulo Pinto
Am 08.05.2013 23:07, schrieb Mike Parker: I was approached by GameDev.net before I left for the States to convert my series on Binding D to C into an article for their new article system. Now that I'm back home, I've gotten it done. What I didn't know until now is that their system requires a

Re: Help With an Article Image

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Parker
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 21:31:56 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: There used to be a time when I visited Flipcode (now dead) and Gamedev almost everyday. Nowadays, I just do boring enterprise software. :\ Flipcode had a brief revival a few months back, but sputtered out again apparently. IIRC,

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 21:06:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/11/2013 1:07 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: I can get by with a hammer and nails too, but if I was a professional roofer I'd be an idiot not to use a nail gun. That's the problem with all this focus on boilerplate. An IDE does so

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique, then so is foo.bar. That isn't true. Please read microsoft's paper.

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread skeptical
In article hwqrlhegkcyapjoov...@forum.dlang.org, ma...@maxim-fomin.ru says... On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 06:35:56 UTC, Lars T. Kyllingstad wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 06:07:39 UTC, skeptical wrote: What is a pull request? Thank you.

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread skeptical
In article mailman.1200.1368283943.4724.digitalmar...@puremagic.com, hst...@quickfur.ath.cx says... On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 01:00:40PM +0200, Mehrdad wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 07:47:34 UTC, skeptical wrote: In article fnowiixgzpanettke...@forum.dlang.org, pub...@kyllingen.net

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread eles
On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 06:07:39 UTC, skeptical wrote: What is a pull request? Thank you. A pull request is like a patch that is sent for review before being applied to the source code tree. It is specific to git. git pull is a command that retrieves and applies that patch, so is

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Johannes Pfau
Am Sat, 11 May 2013 23:51:36 +0100 schrieb Iain Buclaw ibuc...@ubuntu.com: I am more concerned from GDC's perspective of things. Especially when it comes to building from hosts that may have phobos disabled (this is a configure switch). Indeed. Right now we can compile and run GDC on

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/11/2013 10:25 PM, Daniel Murphy wrote: My thought was that you ensure (for the foreseeable future) that all D versions of the compiler compile with the most recent C++ version of the compiler. That would likely mean the the D compiler sources must be compilable with 2.063.

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/11/2013 10:57 PM, deadalnix wrote: Stupid inexpressive language are easier to write tools for, this is the very reason why java have such a great tooling. You run the risk of having a write-only language if the expressivity is in the tools rather than the language.

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:40:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/11/2013 10:57 PM, deadalnix wrote: Stupid inexpressive language are easier to write tools for, this is the very reason why java have such a great tooling. You run the risk of having a write-only language if the expressivity

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread w0rp
This thread is hilarious. This is like asking a car mechanic what an alternator is. Then when he gives you a handbook explaining what one is, you throw it back and spit fury in his face. Other people don't breathe to cater to your every whim, especially when you reject more than adequate

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 1:42 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:40:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/11/2013 10:57 PM, deadalnix wrote: Stupid inexpressive language are easier to write tools for, this is the very reason why java have such a great tooling. You run the risk of having a

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Dicebot
On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:11:25 UTC, Diggory wrote: ... That provokes another argument about attribute inference, off-topic one :) Must resist!

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique, then so is foo.bar. That isn't true. Please read microsoft's paper. Done. *Mostly* transitive,

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread Maxim Fomin
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 07:30:12 UTC, eles wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 06:07:39 UTC, skeptical wrote: What is a pull request? Thank you. A pull request is like a patch that is sent for review before being applied to the source code tree. It is specific to git. git pull is a

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread Dicebot
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:10:35 UTC, Maxim Fomin wrote: Author of the thread is not interested in getting right answer. I do not know why, but in usenet groups there is this kind of trolling (asking naive questions to troll those who answer). I met it for the first time in comp.lang.c

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On 2013-05-12, 11:10, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique, then so is foo.bar. That isn't true. Please read

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On 2013-05-12, 05:16, Diggory wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 01:16:43 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I believe you're overthinking this. First, what is global unique variable? A unique value will per definition have to be thread-local (if not, other threads have a reference to it, and it's

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:53:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/12/2013 1:42 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:40:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/11/2013 10:57 PM, deadalnix wrote: Stupid inexpressive language are easier to write tools for, this is the very reason why

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2013-05-12 05:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That helps considerably, though if the compiler is old enough, that won't work for Linux due to glibc changes and whatnot. My experience is the other way around. Binaries built on newer version of Linux doesn't work on older. But binaries built on

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 12 May 2013 10:39, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote: On 2013-05-12 05:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That helps considerably, though if the compiler is old enough, that won't work for Linux due to glibc changes and whatnot. My experience is the other way around. Binaries built on newer

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:10:56 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique, then so is foo.bar. That isn't true.

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread RAFFI
On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 12:35:07 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: 10-May-2013 01:32, Nick Sabalausky пишет: On Thu, 09 May 2013 10:26:46 -0400 Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org wrote: On 5/9/13 10:26 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With all this focus on technicalities, we forgot

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Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread w0rp
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:48:58 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: Depends... statically linked binaries will probably always work on the latest version, dynamic link and then you've got yourself a 'this libstdc++v5 doesn't exist anymore' problem. I am picturing a Linux workstation with the Post-It

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 12 May 2013 11:08, w0rp devw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:48:58 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: Depends... statically linked binaries will probably always work on the latest version, dynamic link and then you've got yourself a 'this libstdc++v5 doesn't exist anymore' problem.

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread John Colvin
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:48:58 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 12 May 2013 10:39, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote: On 2013-05-12 05:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That helps considerably, though if the compiler is old enough, that won't work for Linux due to glibc changes and whatnot. My

issue 9122

2013-05-12 Thread Tofu Ninja
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9122 Is anyone working on this or know of a work around, it is breaking my project and I can't move on until its fixed.

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Simen Kjaeraas
On 2013-05-12, 11:50, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:10:56 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique,

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 12 May 2013 11:39, John Colvin john.loughran.col...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:48:58 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 12 May 2013 10:39, Jacob Carlborg d...@me.com wrote: On 2013-05-12 05:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote: That helps considerably, though if the compiler is old

Re: issue 9122

2013-05-12 Thread Zhenya
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 10:49:40 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote: http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9122 Is anyone working on this or know of a work around, it is breaking my project and I can't move on until its fixed. see

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Timon Gehr
On 05/12/2013 05:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 19:04:31 -0400 Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2013 14:31:00 H. S. Teoh wrote: As they say in information theory: it is the stuff that stands out, that is different from the rest, that carries

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Thiez
You may wish to take a look at Rust for inspiration. Rust has unique (~) pointers and has made some interesting choices there. Their ~pointers imply ownership. I'm not sure this could be (efficiently) duplicated in a library for D (Rust has significant compiler support for its pointer types)

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 5:10 AM, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique, then so is foo.bar. That isn't true. Please read microsoft's

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 5:32 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:53:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/12/2013 1:42 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:40:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/11/2013 10:57 PM, deadalnix wrote: Stupid inexpressive language are easier to write tools

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 5:50 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:10:56 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced. unique, like const or immutable, is transitive. If foo is unique, then

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 13:07:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/12/13 5:50 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 09:10:56 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: On 2013-05-12, 08:12, deadalnix wrote: On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:24:38 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote: I'm not convinced.

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 13:04:31 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Looks like text to me. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/. Did I look at the wrong product? Yes, it is text based, but you can do many manipulation you can't do with a regular text presentation. This is text++

Re: What is a pull request?

2013-05-12 Thread SomeDude
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:48:28 UTC, w0rp wrote: This thread is hilarious. This is like asking a car mechanic what an alternator is. Then when he gives you a handbook explaining what one is, you throw it back and spit fury in his face. Other people don't breathe to cater to your every

github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
Hello, At some point I found a nice dashboard for D-programming-language on github showing all pull requests for all projects together (dmd, phobos, tools...). Now I can't find it to save my life. Does anyone know how to get that? Thanks, Andrei

Re: github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 10:29 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Hello, At some point I found a nice dashboard for D-programming-language on github showing all pull requests for all projects together (dmd, phobos, tools...). Now I can't find it to save my life. Does anyone know how to get that? Thanks, Andrei

Re: github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread Dicebot
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:30:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Found it from memory but there's no link to it! https://github.com/organizations/D-Programming-Language/dashboard/pulls Andrei It is actually a private dashboard equivalent to ttps://github.com/dashboard/pulls , at least

Re: github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread David Nadlinger
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:29:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: At some point I found a nice dashboard for D-programming-language on github showing all pull requests for all projects together (dmd, phobos, tools...). Now I can't find it to save my life. Does anyone know how to get that?

Re: github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 10:42 AM, David Nadlinger wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:29:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: At some point I found a nice dashboard for D-programming-language on github showing all pull requests for all projects together (dmd, phobos, tools...). Now I can't find it to save my

Re: github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 5/12/13 10:32 AM, Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:30:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Found it from memory but there's no link to it! https://github.com/organizations/D-Programming-Language/dashboard/pulls Andrei It is actually a private dashboard equivalent to

Re: github dashboard

2013-05-12 Thread David Nadlinger
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:06:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 5/12/13 10:32 AM, Dicebot wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 14:30:44 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Found it from memory but there's no link to it! https://github.com/organizations/D-Programming-Language/dashboard/pulls

rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause disruption. Thoughts? Andrei

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Alexander
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause disruption. Thoughts? Andrei I always thought

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Kenji Hara
I always agree that short good name is better than long ones. At least to me, changing git remote setting is not so much laborious. Kenji Hara 2013/5/13 Andrei Alexandrescu seewebsiteforem...@erdani.org I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Iain Buclaw
On 12 May 2013 14:14, deadalnix deadal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 13:04:31 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Looks like text to me. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/**. Did I look at the wrong product? Yes, it is text based, but you can do many manipulation you can't do with

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Juan Manuel Cabo
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 03:58:04 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: The nicest thing of all, IMO, about not strictly needing all that support software is that basic things like editing/navigating/opening/closing code is always and forever 100% unobstructed by things like startup delays and keyboard

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Nowakowski
On 05/11/2013 05:06 PM, Walter Bright wrote: I didn't say an IDE was bad for D, I only said that if you need an IDE to generate boilerplate for you, then there's something wrong with the language. IDE's have lots of other valuable uses. Two points. One, the person I responded to (and quoted

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Matt Soucy
On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, Peter Alexander wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Calin Grosan
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause disruption. Thoughts? Andrei I would go even

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sun, 12 May 2013 12:56:45 -0400 Matt Soucy mso...@csh.rit.edu wrote: On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, Peter Alexander wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 9:42 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: Second, in the QA session of your talk, you said, I'm sorely tempted to say that real men don't use IDEs... Yes, but I said that as a joke. The fixation on boilerplate as to why people need IDEs is just a symptom of the more general sentiment.

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 2:32 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:53:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/12/2013 1:42 AM, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:40:11 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/11/2013 10:57 PM, deadalnix wrote: Stupid inexpressive language are easier to write

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 8:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause disruption. Thoughts? It'll also cause disruption in that google won't

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Brad Anderson
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:11:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/12/2013 8:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Brad Anderson
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 15:08:22 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm thinking we should rename D-programming-language on github with dlang. While we're at it, project d-programming-language.org should be renamed dlang.org. This may cause disruption. Thoughts? Andrei They are painfully

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread deadalnix
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:09:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I think that is irrelevant to my point. A language doesn't have to be text based. Textual format have proven theur usefullness again and again. Programming languages, json, xml, even dark stuff like LLVM IR have a textual

Re: rename our github organization?

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 11:15 AM, Brad Anderson wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:11:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: It'll also cause disruption in that google won't find it when searching for d programming. There should really be a README in the root of the repo so that GitHub displays some information

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Diggory
On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:42:22 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 18:09:59 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: I think that is irrelevant to my point. A language doesn't have to be text based. Textual format have proven theur usefullness again and again. Programming languages, json,

Ali's book Programming in D on Hacker News

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5693345

Re: Formal Review of std.uni

2013-05-12 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
30-Apr-2013 23:17, Jonathan M Davis пишет: On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 15:13:14 Dmitry Olshansky wrote: Unicode -- can't be done on character by character basis Sure it can. It operates on dchar. Getting back to this. Sure it can't - I'd hate to break the illusion but the keyword is e.g.

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sun, 12 May 2013 18:35:25 +0200 Juan Manuel Cabo juanmanuel.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 03:58:04 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: The nicest thing of all, IMO, about not strictly needing all that support software is that basic things like

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky
On Sun, 12 May 2013 14:16:18 +0200 Timon Gehr timon.g...@gmx.ch wrote: On 05/12/2013 05:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 19:04:31 -0400 Jonathan M Davis jmdavisp...@gmx.com wrote: On Friday, May 10, 2013 14:31:00 H. S. Teoh wrote: As they say in information theory: it

Re: Migrating D front end to D - post Dconf

2013-05-12 Thread Daniel Murphy
Walter Bright newshou...@digitalmars.com wrote in message news:kmnk08$3qr$1...@digitalmars.com... On 5/11/2013 10:25 PM, Daniel Murphy wrote: My thought was that you ensure (for the foreseeable future) that all D versions of the compiler compile with the most recent C++ version of the

Re: DConf 2013 keynote

2013-05-12 Thread Jeff Nowakowski
On 05/12/2013 02:08 PM, Walter Bright wrote: On 5/12/2013 9:42 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: Second, in the QA session of your talk, you said, I'm sorely tempted to say that real men don't use IDEs... Yes, but I said that as a joke. It was said jokingly, but I have very little doubt it

Re: Formal Review of std.uni

2013-05-12 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
28-Apr-2013 20:56, Jesse Phillips пишет: This is a replacement module for the current std.uni by Dmitry Olshansky. The std.uni module provides an implementation of fundamental Unicode algorithms and data structures. To use this module, install 2.63 beta, import uni; and not std.uni, compile two

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 6:01 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Bartosz, Walter and I reached a similar design a few years ago. We just thought it complicates things too much for what it does. I've been working in the background on a scheme that can infer uniqueness. The beauty of it is it will not require

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Dmitry Olshansky
13-May-2013 00:28, Walter Bright пишет: On 5/12/2013 6:01 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Bartosz, Walter and I reached a similar design a few years ago. We just thought it complicates things too much for what it does. I've been working in the background on a scheme that can infer uniqueness.

RFC: mysql-native - Supporting both Vibe.d and Phobos sockets

2013-05-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky
There is need for mysql-native https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/mysql-native to support both Vibe.d's sockets and Phobos sockets. First, a little background (feel free to skip ahead if you wish): Steve Teale's original version of mysql-native only supported

Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2 (Copy and Move Semantics)

2013-05-12 Thread Walter Bright
On 5/12/2013 1:48 PM, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: 13-May-2013 00:28, Walter Bright пишет: On 5/12/2013 6:01 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Bartosz, Walter and I reached a similar design a few years ago. We just thought it complicates things too much for what it does. I've been working in the

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