On 20/06/15 12:37, Martin Nowak wrote:
Which also comes with the usual e-mail benefit, people think a lot more
before hitting send.
You talk like someone who's never seen a flame war.
Shachar
On Sunday, 21 June 2015 at 05:42:13 UTC, Joakim wrote:
No, I'm not arguing for pages at all, I'm saying that model is
dead and gone. I think the hyperlink was the killer feature of
the web, but everything else, HTML/CSS/JS, is just detritus
accumulated on top, that needs to be thrown away.
T
On Sunday, 21 June 2015 at 05:44:02 UTC, Shammah Chancellor wrote:
I have watched plethora of projects come and be discharged to
the sea of abandonware over the last 15 years of watching D.
For new users getting started with D it can be hard to find
some of the tools that are current.
It wou
I have watched plethora of projects come and be discharged to the
sea of abandonware over the last 15 years of watching D. For new
users getting started with D it can be hard to find some of the
tools that are current.
It would be really nice if dub, dfmt, and dfix were co-opted into
the sta
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 19:39:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Yes, but would it be better to just have pages and no apps? I
don't think so. When I build an order system it is very useful
to build it like an app.
No, I'm not arguing for pages at all, I'm saying that model is
dead and g
On Sunday, 21 June 2015 at 03:23:18 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
I see this competition slices of D. Also seen are not very
clear design.
It functional programming using pattern matching over arrays. It
is very clear, but perhaps not frequently needed.
On Sunday, 21 June 2015 at 03:23:18 UTC, Dennis Ritchie wrote:
Recently published documentation Nightly Rust. I saw this:
https://doc.rust-lang.org/nightly/book/slice-patterns.html
What do you think about this: a terrible thing or a cool
feature?
fn is_symmetric(list: &[u32]) -> bool {
ma
Recently published documentation Nightly Rust. I saw this:
https://doc.rust-lang.org/nightly/book/slice-patterns.html
What do you think about this: a terrible thing or a cool feature?
fn is_symmetric(list: &[u32]) -> bool {
match list {
[] | [_] => true,
[x, inside.., y] if x
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 11:28:30 UTC, Etienne Cimon wrote:
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:23:25 UTC, Nick B wrote:
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 03:44:08 UTC, Etienne Cimon wrote:
Will you explain how it is different to Vibe.d ?
It has HTTP/2, a new encryption library, it uses a native
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:29:08 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On Saturday, 13 June 2015 at 19:08:26 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2015-06-12 13:06, Dicebot wrote:
The legendary allocator package by Andrei Alexandrescu has arrived at
your doorsteps and kindly asks to let it into Phobos
htt
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 22:42:23 UTC, Ellery Newcomer wrote:
On 06/20/2015 07:00 AM, Etienne wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 13:33:34 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 12:35:11 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
[...]
Even if the callbacks are sequentially listed, the "callbac
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 21:28:11 UTC, anonymous wrote:
For some reason the list stops at 2.023. I don't know if I
messed something up, or if dmd is being silly. Will have to
investigate.
Filed issue 14717 - Ddoc macro recursion limit too low:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14717
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 22:38:30 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
https://github.com/rollbear/basicpp
This leads to this classic, the original Bourne shell ALGO-izer
macros:
http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.11BSD/src/bin/sh/mac.h
On 06/20/2015 07:00 AM, Etienne wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 13:33:34 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 12:35:11 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
I recently read this facebook post on their future implementation in
their Folly library.
https://code.facebook.com/posts/16619820973
https://github.com/rollbear/basicpp
On 06/20/2015 05:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
[...]
+1kazillion
On 06/20/2015 03:00 PM, Joakim wrote:
As the browser tries to mesh these two worlds, the old-fashioned static
hyperlinked pages and the new dynamic widgets of AJAX and HTML5, rifts
crop up. The recent web components efforts you highlight do not address
this at all, they merely make it easier to
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 16:20:31 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:14:43 +, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 15:36:45 UTC, ketmar wrote:
it was designed to ignore that fact altogether. html/css
layouting is a pitiful attempt and barely usable. bwah, it
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 19:00:08 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I probably haven't been clear enough about what I mean. The
original model for the web was a bunch of hyperlinked
pages/documents. But that model increasingly breaks down as
you make the page more dynamic. What are you linking to
anym
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 18:46:45 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
I think the issue we are struggling with here is that:
abbreviate -> abbreviated
This makes some sense. However, the past participle of "set" is
"set".
So "set the extension" -> "a set extension" doesn't work,
because "s
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 15:52:09 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
across sites. That does nothing to integrate the old
page/hyperlink model of the web with the new dynamic HTML5
model, but as Nick said, simply piles more of the dynamic
stuff on top.
Actually, it does, as the logic is moved
On 6/20/15 5:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
Naming things
There are only two hard things
in Computer Science: cache
invalidation and naming things.
-- Phil Karlton
I think the issue we are struggling with here is that:
abbreviate -> abbreviated
This makes some
On 06/20/2015 01:24 PM, ketmar wrote:
oh, well, i repeated Joel almost literally here. ;-)
That dude knows his stuff ;)
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 17:04:48 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/20/2015 5:16 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
I can't use the strtold_dm from the backend, b/c it's not
available for
the other compilers, and AFAIU licensing doesn't allow me to
move it to
the frontend.
Hmm. Perhaps google for simi
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:10:26 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> Well, not really. I mean, managers and HR all *believe* that to be so.
> But that's because pretty much all non-programmers, even ones in the
> software dev industry who really should know better, are stuck in this
> bizarre idea that pr
On 06/20/2015 12:34 PM, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:23:59 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
let's compare numbers for php, java, ruby, js -- and D. most companies
will not bet on language for which a pool of "hireable" developers is
small. and it's understandable: two developers quit, and t
On 6/20/2015 5:16 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On 06/20/2015 02:00 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On 06/20/2015 12:06 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
On 6/20/2015 3:06 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
Apparently we need to roll our own version of strtod() and put it in
Port.
We already do our own strtold(), so it shou
On 6/20/2015 5:16 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
I can't use the strtold_dm from the backend, b/c it's not available for
the other compilers, and AFAIU licensing doesn't allow me to move it to
the frontend.
Hmm. Perhaps google for similar code that would be available? Or submit a bug
report to the De
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 16:23:47 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:18:28 +, Kagamin wrote:
Windows API would be similar to X11, where you just specify
everything in pixels and toolkits building on top of it
manually do all the recomputations and layout policies, not
the UI se
On 06/20/2015 12:18 PM, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:55:24 +, NVolcz wrote:
Found this site that collects learning material for different
programming languages and tech.
http://hackr.io/tutorials/d-programming-language
OT: why do they keep naming their sites in this "suckr" manner
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:32:11 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On 06/20/2015 12:20 PM, ketmar wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:14:43 +, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 15:36:45 UTC, ketmar wrote:
it was designed to ignore that fact altogether. html/css layout
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:23:59 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
yes. and another thing (which is tied to "popularity", though) is the
question: how many developers are here to hire for XYZ?
let's compare numbers for php, java, ruby, js -- and D. most companies
will not bet on language for which a po
On 06/20/2015 12:20 PM, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:14:43 +, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 15:36:45 UTC, ketmar wrote:
it was designed to ignore that fact altogether. html/css layouting is a
pitiful attempt and barely usable. bwah, it can't even do normal
Currently, std.encoding.safeDecode seems to only work on Random
Access Ranges that have a .length property. (So essentially
arrays and array-like objects), but I would very much like to be
able to safeDecode strings that have lazy range-based processing
applied to them (which often ends up with
On 06/20/2015 11:12 AM, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:00:47 +, Etienne wrote:
Yep, looks like we already have better. I don't understand how D hasn't
fully picked up in Web Dev at this point. Are they expecting an
e-commerce/blogging/cms platform to go with it?
D is just not ugly e
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:18:28 +, Kagamin wrote:
> Windows API would be similar to X11, where you just specify everything
> in pixels and toolkits building on top of it manually do all the
> recomputations and layout policies, not the UI server.
only in windows "toolkit" is built into system. a
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:14:43 +, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 15:36:45 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>> it was designed to ignore that fact altogether. html/css layouting is a
>> pitiful attempt and barely usable. bwah, it can't even do normal
>> constraints!
>
> Hmmm, what
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 15:36:45 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:21:28 +, Kagamin wrote:
High DPI settings screw up native UI too if it's not
pixel-precise, and ignoring user preferences is infraction,
I'm afraid.
/me wonders if windows still cannot into dynamic layouts. i
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:55:24 +, NVolcz wrote:
> Found this site that collects learning material for different
> programming languages and tech.
> http://hackr.io/tutorials/d-programming-language
OT: why do they keep naming their sites in this "suckr" manner? there is
a limit on number of "e"
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 15:36:45 UTC, ketmar wrote:
it was designed to ignore that fact altogether. html/css
layouting is a pitiful attempt and barely usable. bwah, it
can't even do normal constraints!
Hmmm, what do you mean by normal constraints?
Modern CSS provides many options, too ma
Found this site that collects learning material for different
programming languages and tech.
http://hackr.io/tutorials/d-programming-language
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:21:28 +, Kagamin wrote:
> High DPI settings screw up native UI too if it's not pixel-precise, and
> ignoring user preferences is infraction, I'm afraid.
/me wonders if windows still cannot into dynamic layouts. in any decent
gui lib it's actually *harder* to build a gu
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 15:13:11 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Hmm... Web: write once with html, css, js. Native: write three
times in obj-c, java, c#. Not sure why the former should sink
and not the latter.
Because writing it once in HTML/CSS/JS takes you much longer
than writing it in Java, while b
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:06:50 +0200, Marco Leise wrote:
> If you have a perfectly working old notebook with Windows XP on it, I
> can recommend QtWeb for its low resource usage and modern-ish feature
> set. It is a little unstable and rough around the edges though:
> http://www.qtweb.net/
Qt+WebKi
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 16:02:19 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
What happened to the one I contributed last year? If there's
bitrot or other issues that needs addressing, then by all
means, either ping me @ GitHub or email me at "nick1" @ my
domain name in this message's header. Both are set
On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 14:00:47 +, Etienne wrote:
> Yep, looks like we already have better. I don't understand how D hasn't
> fully picked up in Web Dev at this point. Are they expecting an
> e-commerce/blogging/cms platform to go with it?
D is just not ugly enough. the key to be popular (not on
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 18:55:25 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
Loop: 3.14s
Reduce 1: 4.76s
Reduce 2: 5.12s
This is DMD 2.067
Don't compare performance numbers on dmd, particularly not when
assessing abstraction overhead.
On 6/20/15 2:37 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
Basically a biweekly sprint meeting to plan our trello board and discuss
other stuff would suffice.
http://forum.dlang.org/post/55586d5b.8020...@dawg.eu
A biweekly meeting would be great. -- Andrei
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 09:27:16 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev
wrote:
I would like to present a very similar case in another
language, JavaScript.
The String method has two functions with a similar name and
functionality: "substr" and "substring". If you were to search
the web, you can find a
On 6/20/15 2:30 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
On 06/19/2015 06:54 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
This is happening on my older CentOS as well, it's a problem in the C
library. I suggest we just version those tests. -- Andrei
Even more worrisome, I don't understand why dmd is compiling the
unittests
On 20 June 2015 at 14:03, Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 06/20/2015 01:35 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > Can we make this a boolean check removing the need for me to explicitly
> set
> > errno?
>
> The function returns a float, so errno seem
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 13:33:34 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote:
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 12:35:11 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
I recently read this facebook post on their future
implementation in their Folly library.
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1661982097368498
This made me slightly envious. T
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 12:35:11 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
I recently read this facebook post on their future
implementation in their Folly library.
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1661982097368498
This made me slightly envious. Thoughts on a D implementation?
Even if the callbacks are sequ
I recently read this facebook post on their future implementation
in their Folly library.
https://code.facebook.com/posts/1661982097368498
This made me slightly envious. Thoughts on a D implementation?
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 05:55:07 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 15:54 -0700, Andrei Alexandrescu via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
Russel, do you have numbers for ldc by any chance? Thx! --
Andrei
Single data point only, and I need to check this, but:
Loop: 1.44s
Reduce 1:
On 06/20/2015 02:00 PM, Martin Nowak wrote:
> On 06/20/2015 12:06 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 6/20/2015 3:06 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> Apparently we need to roll our own version of strtod() and put it in
>>> Port.
>>
>> We already do our own strtold(), so it should be straightforward.
>
> Th
On 06/20/2015 12:06 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 6/20/2015 3:06 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> Apparently we need to roll our own version of strtod() and put it in
>> Port.
>
> We already do our own strtold(), so it should be straightforward.
Thanks, I'll work on a fix.
On 06/20/2015 01:35 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Can we make this a boolean check removing the need for me to explicitly set
> errno?
The function returns a float, so errno seems like the better choice.
On 20 June 2015 at 12:06, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 6/20/2015 2:48 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2015 11:35, "Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d"
>> mailto:digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 06/20/2015 09:52
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 09:27:16 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev
wrote:
Naming things
There are only two hard things
in Computer Science: cache
invalidation and naming things.
-- Phil Karlton
Hello,
There has been a lot of recent debate regarding the names of
some new fun
On 6/20/2015 2:48 AM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
On 20 Jun 2015 11:35, "Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d"
mailto:digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>> wrote:
>
> On 06/20/2015 09:52 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> >
> > Which C runtime are you using? The math functions in C runtimes are
> > ofte
Am Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:05:46 +
schrieb "John Colvin" :
> This appears to have involvement from all major browser vendors,
> which provides hope it might actually catch on properly. An llvm
> backend will be created which will compile to "wasm", hopefully
> LDC and/or SDC could glue to this.
On 6/20/2015 3:06 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
Apparently we need to roll our own version of strtod() and put it in Port.
We already do our own strtold(), so it should be straightforward.
On 20 Jun 2015 11:35, "Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d" <
digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On 06/20/2015 09:52 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> >
> > Which C runtime are you using? The math functions in C runtimes are
> > often inadequate.
>
> So we now call the host's C library to perform constant
On 06/19/2015 06:26 PM, Joakim wrote:
> The impression I get is that everyone in the core team is too busy with
> their real jobs, other than Walter, to make meetings easy to
> coordinate. Not sure of a ready solution for that.
Being to busy is no excuse for important things like this, b/c we're
On 06/20/2015 09:52 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
>
> Which C runtime are you using? The math functions in C runtimes are
> often inadequate.
So we now call the host's C library to perform constant folding/CTFE of exp?
This is a point for Iain's proposal to use a high precision floating
point implemen
On 06/19/2015 06:54 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> This is happening on my older CentOS as well, it's a problem in the C
> library. I suggest we just version those tests. -- Andrei
Even more worrisome, I don't understand why dmd is compiling the
unittests at all.
Might be related to https://iss
On 06/20/2015 09:52 AM, Walter Bright wrote:
> Which C runtime are you using? The math functions in C runtimes are
> often inadequate.
Debian 7.4, there is nothing I can do to avoid glibc.
Naming things
There are only two hard things
in Computer Science: cache
invalidation and naming things.
-- Phil Karlton
Hello,
There has been a lot of recent debate regarding the names of some
new functions recently added to Phobos.
Mostly this concerns the good work
On 05/30/2015 10:50 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> Not sure how much this is a problem but implicit conversion from null
> may also be an issue:
> http://localhost/post/asvcbsvfcxznwypttojk@192.168.0.1
Not in my proposal, b/c it's an explicit conversion that does allocate a
translation wrapper.
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 19:27:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?=
" wrote:
You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrape or
even Let's Chat.
Or irq.
With IRC you could miss a conversation. Teamchats allow to browse
and even
On 6/19/2015 9:18 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
I'm getting this error while trying to build the relase.
std/math.d(2759): Error: number '0x1p-1024' is not representable
I'm getting that while compiling a -m32 (X86) static release phobos
library, but I can't reproduce the error using the same command
On Saturday, 20 June 2015 at 00:07:12 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
Again, the reference to IAllocator must be unqualified even
inside an otherwise qualified object.
no love for a container factory?
struct IAllocator{}
struct container(T){}
template factory(T)
{
struct factory
{
T
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