On Saturday, 12 September 2015 at 15:54:53 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe
wrote:
D programs *never* have a GC thread.
Remember, the D GC isn't magic and isn't actually even that
complicated, it is just an ordinary function call.
That's what I was afraid of :'(
On Friday, 11 September 2015 at 19:30:56 UTC, ponce wrote:
Some of us use and need @nogc all the time. The other parts of
an application can use the GC: best of both worlds.
Is there even a compiler switch to disable GC altogether so the
program doesn't have a GC thread? No, I can't see it...
On Saturday, 12 September 2015 at 06:25:45 UTC, NX wrote:
Is there even a compiler switch to disable GC altogether so the
program doesn't have a GC thread? No, I can't see it...
D programs *never* have a GC thread.
The way the D garbage collector works is something like this:
void*
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 10:00:10 UTC, Ola Fosheim
Grøstad wrote:
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 06:13:59 UTC, Dominikus
Dittes Scherkl wrote:
IMHO "friend" is a misconception, that is only there to
compensate for the lack of modules in C++.
It can be useful. Say you have a
On Saturday, 12 September 2015 at 13:48:14 UTC, ZombineDev wrote:
That's what the `package` access modifier is for.
Then you would have to be in the same package, and that is rather
broad?
The advantage of "friend" is that you can pinpoint what might be
a source for trouble when debugging,
On Saturday, 12 September 2015 at 06:25:45 UTC, NX wrote:
On Friday, 11 September 2015 at 19:30:56 UTC, ponce wrote:
Some of us use and need @nogc all the time. The other parts of
an application can use the GC: best of both worlds.
Is there even a compiler switch to disable GC altogether so
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 20:42:35 UTC, Laeeth Isharc
wrote:
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
D has zero use in anything time sensitive.
You mean, for example, like dealing with data for a billion
customers and responding in a few hundred
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 21:27:02 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
You can make a difference. Yes you probably don't have as much
experience, but that's a great opportunity to learn. Many here
would be willing to mentor you if you want.
I can do it if you want to contribute to SDC. I'm sure
On Friday, 11 September 2015 at 01:04:56 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
And @nogc is just a band-aid fix. Might as well go back to C or
C++ and leave the silly @nogc behind with all it's weird
integration rules when working around managed memory.
Some of us use and need @nogc all the time.
On Friday, 11 September 2015 at 01:04:56 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
There was a lovely article by a fellow for his PhD on how D
garbage collector was literally killing his JavaScript engine,
It was a she :-).
Some people have focused on the GC, but you actually need to
change the strategy
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 18:21:32 UTC, NX wrote:
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
It's slow, really slow, and stopping the entire world is
painful, even in trivial user applications. A pause for even
half a second or less on the UI makes the
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 20:42:35 UTC, Laeeth Isharc
wrote:
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
D has zero use in anything time sensitive.
You mean, for example, like dealing with data for a billion
customers and responding in a few hundred
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 18:21:32 UTC, NX wrote:
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
It's slow, really slow, and stopping the entire world is
painful, even in trivial user applications. A pause for even
half a second or less on the UI makes the
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 06:13:59 UTC, Dominikus Dittes
Scherkl wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 at 17:07:50 UTC, NX wrote:
And, can somebody show me a working example code of how to
solve that friend class problem without some horrible hacktic
way and agressive template/mixin
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 at 17:07:50 UTC, NX wrote:
And, can somebody show me a working example code of how to
solve that friend class problem without some horrible hacktic
way and agressive template/mixin stuff ? (I doubt it can solved
via templates but anyway...)
Why would you ever need
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 06:48:45 UTC, NX wrote:
Woah! I didn't know about private members are visible in it's
module, but to me it feels much cleaner if it was achieved by
something similar to what I suggested... Isn't it?
never mind...
Everything in the same module is friend to
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 06:13:59 UTC, Dominikus Dittes
Scherkl wrote:
IMHO "friend" is a misconception, that is only there to
compensate for the lack of modules in C++.
It can be useful. Say you have a database engine module and an
ORM module, you might want to give the ORM special
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
You can report issues and create pull requests :)
Destroy!
Most of these things I agree with.
CamelCase this_case or that-case doesn't matter to me. It's a
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
Seriously, the fact that the GC has gone un-noticied for so
long is a HUGE turn off for just about ANY would be C like
It has not gone un-noticed, that's how @nogc came about. So
people are aware that it is not suitable
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 18:21:32 UTC, NX wrote:
The more you don't collect, the more time it takes time to
collect; thus, you may want to configure GC to do it's job more
often so it doesn't stop significantly, and also manually
trigger collection where appropriate...
Maybe that is
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
D has zero use in anything time sensitive.
You mean, for example, like dealing with data for a billion
customers and responding in a few hundred microseconds? ;)
https://www.sociomantic.com/technology/
Case closed.
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 14:00:52 UTC, Brandon Ragland
wrote:
It's slow, really slow, and stopping the entire world is
painful, even in trivial user applications. A pause for even
half a second or less on the UI makes the application looks
"chunky" and broken.
If you're having that
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 18:21:32 UTC, NX wrote:
If I had the time and knowledge I would spend them to make D
better, but you can't expect a teenager (tip: me) to help
making DMD front-end better or to implement a precise GC... I
guess?
You wouldn't know what people have done with D
On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 at 18:21:32 UTC, NX wrote:
If I had the time and knowledge I would spend them to make D
better, but you can't expect a teenager (tip: me) to help
making DMD front-end better or to implement a precise GC... I
guess?
You can make a difference. Yes you probably
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 at 03:09:20 UTC, Rikki Cattermole
wrote:
On 08/09/15 5:27 AM, Shammah Chancellor wrote:
void main() {
import std.stdio : writeln;
writeln("Hello world!");
}
-Shammah
It's not just an idiomatic way to code with local imports, it's
a compilation
On 08-Sep-2015 19:09, Brian Rogoff wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 at 03:09:20 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
On 08/09/15 5:27 AM, Shammah Chancellor wrote:
void main() {
import std.stdio : writeln;
writeln("Hello world!");
}
-Shammah
It's not just an idiomatic way to code with
Thanks all your thoughts and criticisms...
- I'm fine if DMD ever starts to support multiple `alias this`,
just to see if it would be easier for compiler to use opCast for
implicit casts.
- Those who think ^ would cause problems as it's already used for
xor must be forgetting * is widely
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:52:21 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
Thanks for taking the time to write up your ideas. There has
been much discussion on
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:52:21 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
1. You need to make sure that pointers to the interior of a GC
object are not live when the last pointer to the start of the
GC objects disappears.
2. You need to annotate C functions that take pointers with a
guarantee
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
You can report issues and create pull requests :)
Destroy!
OK, here are a few comments on what i agree with or not. The
other point simply don't interest
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Destroy!
Yea ill admit, i came from C# and i hate underscores. I prefer
PascalCase above anything.
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 15:34:21 UTC, BBasile wrote:
You can already create, allocate new class, struct and union
instances that are not known by the GC.
This is not well known because I've explained this several time
on several boards to several people. So this proposal is simply
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
Thanks for taking the time to write up your ideas. There has been
much discussion on the GC in the past and I agree that a
GC-tracking mechanism that can
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
You can report issues and create pull requests :)
Destroy!
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
You can report issues and create pull requests :)
Destroy!
Hi NX,
Thanks for the document. A lot of what you say about UDA and
compile time reflection is
On 08/09/15 5:27 AM, Shammah Chancellor wrote:
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
You can report issues and create pull requests :)
Destroy!
Hi NX,
Thanks for the document. A lot of what
On 09/07/2015 08:55 PM, Enamex wrote:
- Templates are obvious enough as they are IMHO.
It's also obvious that declaration syntax mimicking use syntax would be
superior.
> void main()
> {
> std.stdio.writeln("Hello world!"); // Error: undefined identifier 'std'
> }
struct Mod(string B="") {
template opDispatch(string M) {
static if (__traits(compiles, { mixin(`import `~B~"."~M~`;`); }))
mixin(`import opDispatch =
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 16:10:31 UTC, Israel wrote:
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Destroy!
Yea ill admit, i came from C# and i hate underscores. I prefer
PascalCase above anything.
3 of the keys in my keychain are of
On Monday, 7 September 2015 at 14:44:05 UTC, nx wrote:
https://github.com/NightmareX1337/DX
Don't kill me, I'm just trying to help...
You can report issues and create pull requests :)
Destroy!
- Your point against undisciplined UFCS: Completely agree.
I'm writing a 'DIP' that I'm probably
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