On 2018-10-22 12:06, Russel Winder wrote:
Jacob,
GitHub is currently making a total mess for me of our conversation on
Issue 42, I see stuff then it goes away. Apologies if I have made a
mess of that conversation for you.
Yeah, I noticed that. GitHub had/still having some major issues [1].
S
On 2018-10-21 22:31, Patrick Schluter wrote:
I like it and I'm looking forward that it gets beyond swt 3.4.
I ported my Java GUI SWT program to D and it was a breeze to do. I
didn't even require to change the structure of the app and the class
hierarchy. There was only the file and string hand
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 16:23 +, Gregor Mückl via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
>
[…]
> It's easy to go and proclaim a strategic goal such as this. What
> actually matters is execution. And that requires some serious
> developer time that someone (ideally a whole team) needs to
> invest. I don't see t
On Sunday, 21 October 2018 at 17:15:03 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:42 +, Paolo Invernizzi via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
Linux is not only the desktop, and Qt simply dominates in
industrial, medical and automation sector, that's where the
money is.
Qt is pushing str
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 03:49:44 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
> So I'm honestly *shocked* to hear this. I NEVER would've guessed. I'm
> pretty sold on rolling-release at this point, but I'm intrigued enough
> that I'm gonna have to give the latest Ubuntu a try, at least in a VM.
The latest
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 03:49 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
> Just to see what's up with this "Qt-based Ubuntu", which to me, is
> much
> like hearing of Mario on a Dreamcast, or Sonic on SNES...
Canonical got heavily into Qt (well QML actually) when they were goi
Jacob,
GitHub is currently making a total mess for me of our conversation on
Issue 42, I see stuff then it goes away. Apologies if I have made a
mess of that conversation for you.
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 20:24 +0200, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
>
[…]
> There's probably a ton of busines
On 10/22/18 1:58 AM, Neia Neutuladh wrote:
Unity 7 and prior for the desktop use Nux, an OpenGL-based widget toolkit.
Unity 8 and all mobile versions of Unity use Qt. The application set that
Ubuntu shipped with Unity was, I think, heavier on the GTK+ side.
Fascinating. I'm actually shocked b
On 10/22/18 1:08 AM, Gerald wrote:
On Monday, 22 October 2018 at 04:41:08 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa)
wrote:
On 10/21/18 1:13 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
[...]
First of all, minor nitpick: Unless some bombshell news occurred that
I managed to miss, Ubuntu pushes their own Unity, NOT Gnome.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 00:41:08 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
> Ultimately, everything points to the same thing: Those who actually CARE
> about GTK/Gnome/Unity vs Qt/KDE, typically prefer Qt/KDE. The rest are
> just swing votes.
Unity 7 and prior for the desktop use Nux, an OpenGL-based w
On 10/21/18 1:29 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
No, D should not forget DWT. It's one of the few (they only?) D GUI
toolkit that has a native look and feel.
Apart from GtkD on GTK+ systems, and dqml, QtE5, qtD, and dqt on Qt,
and wxD on wxWidgets. Qt and wxWidgets pride themselves on being able
to use
On Monday, 22 October 2018 at 04:41:08 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
On 10/21/18 1:13 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
[...]
First of all, minor nitpick: Unless some bombshell news
occurred that I managed to miss, Ubuntu pushes their own Unity,
NOT Gnome. Yes, that's still GTK, but still...
On 10/21/18 1:13 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 04:15 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
That's pure nonsense: It's Linux - unless one option actually goes
away
(KDE is still actively used and developed), then there's no such
thing
as one "winning" ov
On 10/21/18 7:36 AM, Andre Pany wrote:
While talking about bindings, do not forget Delphi. It has still a good
eco system. Combining Delphi's advanced Runtime reflection capabilities
with D's advanced compile reflection capabilities opens this eco system.
I created a proof of concept and the
On Sunday, 21 October 2018 at 18:24:30 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2018-10-21 19:29, Russel Winder wrote:
But who apart from Eclipse and JetBrains uses Java for desktop
GUI
applications?
There's probably a ton of business/enterprise applications that
are written in Java.
But I don't car
On 2018-10-21 19:29, Russel Winder wrote:
But who apart from Eclipse and JetBrains uses Java for desktop GUI
applications?
There's probably a ton of business/enterprise applications that are
written in Java.
But I don't care for that, that's why I'm using D :)
I do not have Eclipse to che
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 12:54 +0200, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
>
[…]
> As has been stated elsewhere, it's working on Windows and macOS but
> looks very alien on macOS. When I was in school I wrote a program
> using
> C# (Mono) and GTK on macOS. GTK seemed to be the best alternative
>
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 12:49 +0200, Jacob Carlborg via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On 2018-10-21 09:33, Russel Winder wrote:
>
> > The SWT framework is being replaced with JavaFX, so should D forget
> > DWT
> > and do something similar?
>
> Where do you get that idea? SWT (and therefore DWT) is using t
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:42 +, Paolo Invernizzi via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> […]
>
> Linux is not only the desktop, and Qt simply dominates in
> industrial, medical and automation sector, that's where the money
> is.
>
> Qt is pushing strongly on the embedded marked, bare metal or
> linux (k
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 04:15 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> That's pure nonsense: It's Linux - unless one option actually goes
> away
> (KDE is still actively used and developed), then there's no such
> thing
> as one "winning" over the other.
Hardly nonsens
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 16:37:07 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
I've also realised that there are parts of C++ that are
probably unstranslatable no matter what I do.
This can be solved with good gui. It need to look like meld on
linux where original cpp and translated d files are side by side
On Sunday, 21 October 2018 at 01:32:22 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
On 10/20/18 6:28 AM, Gregor Mückl wrote:
Even though web and mobile UIs seem to be the rage at the
moment, I believe a solid support for desktop UIs is very
important for a general purpose language, if it wants to b
On 2018-10-20 11:25, Russel Winder wrote:
GtkD works very well for me. But I guess GTK+ has a reputation of not
working on Windows and macOS. Once a reputation is established it is
nigh on impossible to refute.
As has been stated elsewhere, it's working on Windows and macOS but
looks very ali
On 2018-10-21 09:33, Russel Winder wrote:
The SWT framework is being replaced with JavaFX, so should D forget DWT
and do something similar?
Where do you get that idea? SWT (and therefore DWT) is using the native
drawing operations of the OS.
No, D should not forget DWT. It's one of the few
On 2018-10-21 03:25, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
What about DWT? It seemed pretty good from what I could tell, though I
still haven't ventured into D GUIs just yet myself. Are there issues
people have with DWT? Or WxD?
DWT is currently stuck at SWT version 3.4 and no macOS version is
av
On Sunday, 21 October 2018 at 07:33:45 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
The GTK/Qt battle on Linux was won by GTK+2 hence GNOME over
KDE as the default for Debian and Fedora. Whether this was
right or wrong is left as a choice for the reader!
Linux is not only the desktop, and Qt simply dominates in
On 10/21/18 3:33 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 21:25 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
I've heard a lot of very good things about GtkD, and honestly, I have
no
doubts about any of it. Unfortunately though, the main problem with
GtkD
is simply GTK itself
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 21:25 -0400, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> And KDE.
Not entirely true, you can run KDE application on a GNOME system, and I
assume GNOME application on a KDE system.
> I've heard a lot of very good things about GtkD, and honestly, I have
> no
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 16:37 +, Atila Neves via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>
> It turns out that translating C++ is *hard*. Partly because the
> language is huge and complicated, but also partly because
> libclang isn't all it's cracked up to be. But... dpp is probably
> a few full work days
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 23:38 +, Gregor Mückl via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
>
[…]
> I don't want to judge, but I need to point out that we have
> managed to make this discussion progress from outward-facing
> marketing to technical difficulties and related pull requests.
> This is not bad, but it
On 10/20/18 6:28 AM, Gregor Mückl wrote:
Even though web and mobile UIs seem to be the rage at the moment, I
believe a solid support for desktop UIs is very important for a general
purpose language, if it wants to be successful in the market.
I think that may be doubly true in the case of D,
On 10/20/18 5:25 AM, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 08:52 +, Gregor Mückl via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[…]
I periodically look at how I can make use of D for small
projects. Most often, I shy away because I want to build a GUI
and none of the libraries that I can find look mature
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 22:19:48 UTC, 12345swordy wrote:
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 16:37:07 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 10:28:47 UTC, Gregor Mückl
wrote:
[...]
It turns out that translating C++ is *hard*. Partly because
the language is huge and compl
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 16:37:07 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 10:28:47 UTC, Gregor Mückl
wrote:
[...]
It turns out that translating C++ is *hard*. Partly because the
language is huge and complicated, but also partly because
libclang isn't all it's cracked u
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 10:28:47 UTC, Gregor Mückl wrote:
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 09:25:58 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 08:52 +, Gregor Mückl via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
I periodically look at how I can make use of D for small
projects. Most often, I s
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 14:24:56 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 12:43 +, tide via Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
I mean it *may* work, but that isn't the problem if the
developers completely lack support for the platform. I can
download Qt with prebuilt libraries and i
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 12:43 +, tide via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>
[…]
> I mean it *may* work, but that isn't the problem if the
> developers completely lack support for the platform. I can
> download Qt with prebuilt libraries and it works out of the box
> with MSVC. There's an obvious differe
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 09:25:58 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 08:52 +, Gregor Mückl via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
I periodically look at how I can make use of D for small
projects. Most often, I shy away because I want to build a GUI
and none of the libraries th
On Saturday, 20 October 2018 at 09:25:58 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 08:52 +, Gregor Mückl via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
[…]
I periodically look at how I can make use of D for small
projects. Most often, I shy away because I want to build a GUI
and none of the libraries th
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 08:52 +, Gregor Mückl via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
>
[…]
> I periodically look at how I can make use of D for small
> projects. Most often, I shy away because I want to build a GUI
> and none of the libraries that I can find look mature and well
> maintained enough to put
On Saturday, 12 May 2018 at 19:16:32 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 21:43:24 UTC, aberba wrote:
[...]
I didn't know this one and it looks nice, maybe not too adapted
to big desktop apps.
Based on the screenshots this looks more designed for
skeuomorphic UIs or small UIs, e.g
On Saturday, 12 May 2018 at 19:03:50 UTC, aberba wrote:
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 23:13:06 UTC, Rubn wrote:
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 21:43:24 UTC, aberba wrote:
[...]
If you are going to mention that then you might as well
mention the (imo better) alternative ImGui.
https://github.com/oc
On 05/11/2018 05:43 PM, aberba wrote:
>
> https://littlevgl.com/
>
On 05/12/2018 03:03 PM, aberba wrote:
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 23:13:06 UTC, Rubn wrote:
https://github.com/ocornut/imgui
https://github.com/Extrawurst/cimgui
Compare imgui with Nuklear (https://github.com/vurtun/nuklear) an
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 21:43:24 UTC, aberba wrote:
This two GUI libs written in C I just found are really good
looking and looks production ready.
Embedded systems:
LittlevGL is a free and open-source graphics library providing
everything you need to create embedded GUI with easy-to-use
gr
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 23:13:06 UTC, Rubn wrote:
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 21:43:24 UTC, aberba wrote:
[...]
If you are going to mention that then you might as well mention
the (imo better) alternative ImGui.
https://github.com/ocornut/imgui
https://github.com/Extrawurst/cimgui
Compar
On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 21:43:24 UTC, aberba wrote:
General Usage:
Nuklear is a minimal state immediate mode graphical user
interface toolkit written in ANSI C and licensed under public
domain. It was designed as a simple embeddable user interface
for application and does not have any depend
This two GUI libs written in C I just found are really good
looking and looks production ready.
Embedded systems:
LittlevGL is a free and open-source graphics library providing
everything you need to create embedded GUI with easy-to-use
graphical elements, beautiful visual effects and low memo
"Temtaime" wrote:
> GTK is too ugly.
But it's free.
On Wednesday, 11 December 2013 at 20:25:43 UTC, Temtaime wrote:
GTK is too ugly.
css is good for prettifying it :-)
-=mike=-
GTK is too ugly.
I wanted to work with Qt from Dlang and do it with QtE.d
(https://github.com/MGWL/QtE-Qt_for_Dlang_and_Forth)
AFAIK the linux situation looks like this.
GTK is the current native toolkit for the Gnome based environments and
descendants including Unity.
Canonical are trying to move towards Qt for Unity.
Qt is the standard toolkit for KDE.
However Qt can treat GTK as a native toolkit and will render native
On Saturday, 30 November 2013 at 10:02:40 UTC, Russel Winder
wrote:
I am using QML/Go (and QML/Python, two separate backend
implementations
based on the same QML) for a pet project (which as a sideline
supports
my Python and Go training courses and is research for a possible
startup). I had bee
Le 02/12/2013 08:44, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
On 2013-11-30 22:38, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Lua script have to be accessible as resources, for the moment we don't
know if it will be possible to do the same thing completely in D. The
main difficulty is to make the property binding works, it seams fe
Le 02/12/2013 08:42, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
On 2013-11-28 21:54, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real personality. I don't
think it's an issue especially when application is full screen and
respect pictographs (icons and texts) standards,...
Having custom
On Monday, 2 December 2013 at 11:53:30 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
GNOME itself is pure GTK certainly. My phrasing was poor. What
I should
have written is, what you say, that with Debian and Fedora
using GNOME
Qt is still a widget set that is usable. I have a large number
of
non-GNOME GUI reliant
On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 11:57 +0100, Dicebot wrote:
> On Monday, 2 December 2013 at 09:49:10 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> >> > And on linux ?
> >> > - GTK (with gnome and KDE)
> >> > - Qt QML (KDE future)
> >
> > Both on GNOME certainly.
>
> Erm, no? Stock GNOME is pure GTK, if you have something
On Monday, 2 December 2013 at 09:49:10 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> And on linux ?
> - GTK (with gnome and KDE)
> - Qt QML (KDE future)
Both on GNOME certainly.
Erm, no? Stock GNOME is pure GTK, if you have something that
requires Qt in it, must be some customization done by distro.
On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 08:42 +0100, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2013-11-28 21:54, Xavier Bigand wrote:
>
> > Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real personality. I don't
> > think it's an issue especially when application is full screen and
> > respect pictographs (icons and texts) stand
On 2013-11-30 22:38, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Lua script have to be accessible as resources, for the moment we don't
know if it will be possible to do the same thing completely in D. The
main difficulty is to make the property binding works, it seams feasible
but it's not on top on our priorities.
On 2013-11-28 21:54, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real personality. I don't
think it's an issue especially when application is full screen and
respect pictographs (icons and texts) standards,...
Having custom UI can help applications to improve ergonomic w
Le 30/11/2013 06:33, John J a écrit :
On 11/28/2013 02:54 PM, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Dquick goes in this direction.
It appears DQcuik uses Lua scripts for UI design.
1. Do we have to supply these script files along with the executable or
do they get compiled into the executable?
Lua script hav
On Sat, 2013-11-30 at 00:10 +0100, Xavier Bigand wrote:
[…]
> available on iOS, with his interface wrote in cocoa. The next version
> will be ported to iOS, Android, Windows and Mac OS X (maybe linux), so
> we completely rewrite the interface with QML, because to increase the
> application ident
On 11/28/2013 08:30 AM, "Luís Marques" " wrote:
Whatever API / bindings you use, please don't expose non-native UIs to
users (drawn from scratch, either mimicking the native UI or not). They
never completely integrate with the OS, subtly deviating from the native
behaviour in ways that range fro
On 11/28/2013 02:54 PM, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Dquick goes in this direction.
It appears DQcuik uses Lua scripts for UI design.
1. Do we have to supply these script files along with the executable or
do they get compiled into the executable?
2. How is the performance?
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 02:00:50 UTC, Chris Cain wrote:
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:44:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Still lacking proper beard ;)
A programmer without a beard! Blasphemy! Witch!
But anyway, going along with what you guys are saying, if
you've ever seen reviews on
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 23:46:02 UTC, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Le 29/11/2013 04:48, Rikki Cattermole a écrit :
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:13:42 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:05:09 UTC, Jacob Carlborg
wrote:
On 2013-11-28 11:12, Chris wrote:
+1 GtkD & Glade
On 11/29/13 9:03 AM, thedeemon wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 13:30:53 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
Whatever API / bindings you use, please don't expose non-native UIs to
users (drawn from scratch, either mimicking the native UI or not).
They never completely integrate with the OS, subtly d
cussing the use of GUI libraries that recreate from scratch
things like:
- all controls, even the basic ones
- UI behaviours (e.g., scrolling, double click times, etc.),
badly mimicking the native system
- text rendering, unicode/localization processing, etc.
- integration
Le 29/11/2013 04:48, Rikki Cattermole a écrit :
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:13:42 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:05:09 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-11-28 11:12, Chris wrote:
+1 GtkD & Glade (UI builder) are very good (http://gtkd.org/).
Hopefully
one day w
Le 29/11/2013 18:08, thedeemon a écrit :
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 20:55:02 UTC, Xavier Bigand wrote:
What is native on windows ?
- Win32
- Winforms
- Qt Widgets (that is near Win32)?
I would say Win32. Winforms is mostly a thin wrapper over Win32.
However things get more complicated
Le 29/11/2013 14:31, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
On 2013-11-28 21:54, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real personality. I don't
think it's an issue especially when application is full screen and
respect pictographs (icons and texts) standards,...
"real persona
Le 29/11/2013 03:00, Chris Cain a écrit :
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:44:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Still lacking proper beard ;)
A programmer without a beard! Blasphemy! Witch!
But anyway, going along with what you guys are saying, if you've ever
seen reviews on Android apps, a lot o
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 14:49:33 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 13:30:53 UTC, Luís Marques
wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:13:42 UTC, Chris wrote:
What I meant was no bindings to native widgets or other
toolkits. DWT (like SWT) uses the native widgets and
On 2013-11-29 18:03, thedeemon wrote:
This is pure Mac talk.
In Windows the "native" UI elements are so scarce and primitive, that
most apps with decent UI end up making their own. For example, one would
assume that UI elements that can be found in MS Office are native and
can be used in other a
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 17:03:02 UTC, thedeemon wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 13:30:53 UTC, Luís Marques
wrote:
Whatever API / bindings you use, please don't expose
non-native UIs to users (drawn from scratch, either mimicking
the native UI or not). They never completely integr
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 20:55:02 UTC, Xavier Bigand
wrote:
What is native on windows ?
- Win32
- Winforms
- Qt Widgets (that is near Win32)?
I would say Win32. Winforms is mostly a thin wrapper over Win32.
However things get more complicated if you take into account WPF
(completely
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 13:30:53 UTC, Luís Marques wrote:
Whatever API / bindings you use, please don't expose non-native
UIs to users (drawn from scratch, either mimicking the native
UI or not). They never completely integrate with the OS, subtly
deviating from the native behaviour in
On Wednesday, 27 November 2013 at 17:07:07 UTC, DLang Beginner
wrote:
Hello.
I want to make GUI applications with D, but I don't know which
are updated and ready to use, which are good and etc. Can you
help me with choosing the right one, guys?
I don't know which OS you're interested in, but
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 14:14:08 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-11-29 14:53, Chris wrote:
It's not about emulating. It's about innovating.
Qt tries to emulate the native toolkit, like it or not.
I don't think it's necessary to do that. You actually only need a
small set of widge
On 2013-11-29 14:53, Chris wrote:
It's not about emulating. It's about innovating.
Qt tries to emulate the native toolkit, like it or not.
--
/Jacob Carlborg
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 13:31:34 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
On 2013-11-28 21:54, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real
personality. I don't
think it's an issue especially when application is full screen
and
respect pictographs (icons and texts) standa
On 2013-11-28 21:54, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real personality. I don't
think it's an issue especially when application is full screen and
respect pictographs (icons and texts) standards,...
"real personality", it's more of trying to emulate the nativ
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 02:00:50 UTC, Chris Cain wrote:
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:44:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Still lacking proper beard ;)
A programmer without a beard! Blasphemy! Witch!
But anyway, going along with what you guys are saying, if
you've ever seen reviews on
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:13:42 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:05:09 UTC, Jacob Carlborg
wrote:
On 2013-11-28 11:12, Chris wrote:
+1 GtkD & Glade (UI builder) are very good
(http://gtkd.org/). Hopefully
one day we will have our own pure D GUI toolkit.
DWT is
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:44:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
Still lacking proper beard ;)
A programmer without a beard! Blasphemy! Witch!
But anyway, going along with what you guys are saying, if you've
ever seen reviews on Android apps, a lot of apps get lots of bad
reviews for not ad
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:43:39 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh
wrote:
Are you really Richard Stallman? :o)
There is one true linux gui: emacs!
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:30:46 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:26:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh
wrote:
Actually, I would say Linux doesn't have a native GUI, since
Qt/GTK are basically cross-platform UI toolkits that sit on
top of X11/Wayland/Whatever.
There can't be
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:43:39 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh
wrote:
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:30:46 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:26:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh
wrote:
Actually, I would say Linux doesn't have a native GUI, since
Qt/GTK are basically cross-platform
clip
What is native on windows ?
- Win32
- Winforms
- Qt Widgets (that is near Win32)?
And on linux ?
- GTK (with gnome and KDE)
- Qt QML (KDE future)
Neither. Its Motif :o) Unity!
Actually, I would say Linux doesn't have a native GUI, since
Qt/GTK are basically cross-platform UI toolkits
On Friday, 29 November 2013 at 01:26:57 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh
wrote:
Actually, I would say Linux doesn't have a native GUI, since
Qt/GTK are basically cross-platform UI toolkits that sit on top
of X11/Wayland/Whatever.
There can't be such thing as native Linux GUI. Linux is a kernel.
There is
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 20:55:02 UTC, Xavier Bigand
wrote:
Le 28/11/2013 21:35, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
On 2013-11-28 21:03, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Take a look to QML with Qt Quick Controls :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_F6Kpjd-Q
That shows the problem with non-native toolkits.
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 20:55:02 UTC, Xavier Bigand
wrote:
Yep, that the goal, having applications with a real
personality. I don't think it's an issue especially when
application is full screen and respect pictographs (icons and
texts) standards,...
It is easier (much much easier) b
Le 28/11/2013 21:35, Jacob Carlborg a écrit :
On 2013-11-28 21:03, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Take a look to QML with Qt Quick Controls :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_F6Kpjd-Q
That shows the problem with non-native toolkits. When he adds the button
to the toolbar in the beginning, the toolbar
On 2013-11-28 21:03, Xavier Bigand wrote:
Take a look to QML with Qt Quick Controls :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6_F6Kpjd-Q
That shows the problem with non-native toolkits. When he adds the button
to the toolbar in the beginning, the toolbar isn't a native unified
toolbar. It's some cus
Le 28/11/2013 14:30, "Luís Marques" " a écrit :
On Thursday, 28 November 2013 at 12:13:42 UTC, Chris wrote:
What I meant was no bindings to native widgets or other toolkits. DWT
(like SWT) uses the native widgets and needs an interface. I was
thinking of a toolkit where everything is provided by
On 2013-11-28 17:45, Chris wrote:
I agree with you, you have a point there, and years ago I would have
agreed with you. But users are getting more and more accustomed to a
variety of GUIs (and general GUI logic). I used to work a lot with SWT
and Cocoa and I know that unless you use the native t
On 2013-11-28 15:49, Chris wrote:
Also, when writing bindings to native widgets, you're always playing
catch-up too. Once you've got your bindings, the native toolkit has new
methods, features and classes. I still think it would be good to have an
independent GUI toolkit, like Java Swing / FX as
On 2013-11-28 17:22, "Luís Marques" " wrote:
Yes, but you still automatically get a lot of new behaviors/styles with
your old application binaries. That's especially important for
applications that are not as aggressively maintained as Chrome is. Also,
you don't have to have generic UI libraries
On 2013-11-28 13:13, Chris wrote:
What I meant was no bindings to native widgets or other toolkits. DWT
(like SWT) uses the native widgets and needs an interface. I was
thinking of a toolkit where everything is provided by D and done in D
without any reference to native frameworks (Cocoa etc.).
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