Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-21 Thread extrawurst via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 June 2015 at 09:14:26 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote: On 21 Jun 2015 08:55, "Shachar Shemesh via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: On 20/06/15 12:37, Martin Nowak wrote: Which also comes with the usual e-mail benefit, people think a lot more before hitting send. Y

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-21 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 21 Jun 2015 08:55, "Shachar Shemesh via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > > On 20/06/15 12:37, Martin Nowak wrote: >> >> Which also comes with the usual e-mail benefit, people think a lot more >> before hitting send. >> > You talk like someone who's never seen a flame war. >

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-20 Thread Shachar Shemesh via Digitalmars-d
On 20/06/15 12:37, Martin Nowak wrote: Which also comes with the usual e-mail benefit, people think a lot more before hitting send. You talk like someone who's never seen a flame war. Shachar

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-20 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 16:02:19 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: What happened to the one I contributed last year? If there's bitrot or other issues that needs addressing, then by all means, either ping me @ GitHub or email me at "nick1" @ my domain name in this message's header. Both are set

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-20 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 6/20/15 2:37 AM, Martin Nowak wrote: Basically a biweekly sprint meeting to plan our trello board and discuss other stuff would suffice. http://forum.dlang.org/post/55586d5b.8020...@dawg.eu A biweekly meeting would be great. -- Andrei

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-20 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 06/19/2015 06:26 PM, Joakim wrote: > The impression I get is that everyone in the core team is too busy with > their real jobs, other than Walter, to make meetings easy to > coordinate. Not sure of a ready solution for that. Being to busy is no excuse for important things like this, b/c we're

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-20 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 19:27:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?= " wrote: You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrape or even Let's Chat. Or irq. With IRC you could miss a conversation. Teamchats allow to browse and even

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 20/06/2015 9:03 a.m., Brad Anderson wrote: On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 21:00:27 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 19:27:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?= " wrote: You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrap

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/19/2015 05:25 PM, David Gileadi wrote: On 6/19/15 2:00 PM, Brad Anderson wrote: IRC, I hope, is what you mean. Chatting by interrupts sounds hor- It sure does! :) Hah, I see what you did there... :)

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread David Gileadi via Digitalmars-d
On 6/19/15 2:00 PM, Brad Anderson wrote: IRC, I hope, is what you mean. Chatting by interrupts sounds hor- It sure does! :)

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/19/2015 05:00 PM, Brad Anderson wrote: On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 19:27:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?= " wrote: You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrape or even Let's Chat. Or irq. IRC, I hope, is what you mean.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 21:00:27 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote: On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 19:27:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?= " wrote: You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrape or even Let's Chat. Or irq. IRC, I hope,

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 19:27:09 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?= " wrote: You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrape or even Let's Chat. Or irq. IRC, I hope, is what you mean. Chatting by interrupts sounds horrible. A

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/19/2015 02:41 PM, "Jacques =?UTF-8?B?TcO8bGxlciI=?= " wrote: You could use a teamchat like Slack, HipChat, ChatGrape or even Let's Chat. Or irq.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 16:02:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: Interestingly this links back to our missing communication infrastructure. We should have regular (semi-public) meetings involving all core contributors to plan development, releases, and everything D. Private (irregular) email discuss

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 June 2015 at 16:02:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: On 06/17/2015 08:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: You wouldn't just not go to work for two weeks and then show up at your desk as if nothing happened. This kind of stuff needs some level of planning, barring exceptional events. Yea

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-19 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 06/17/2015 08:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > You wouldn't just not go to work for two weeks and then show up at your > desk as if nothing happened. This kind of stuff needs some level of > planning, barring exceptional events. Yeah that didn't work too well, sorry for the trouble. I was ex

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 02:00:41 +, Etienne wrote: > On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 20:58:38 UTC, ketmar wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:45:26 +, Etienne wrote: >> >>> My point is, we need to be able to extend it to build and link an >>> application with a custom druntime/phobos/dmd version fro

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 20:58:38 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:45:26 +, Etienne wrote: My point is, we need to be able to extend it to build and link an application with a custom druntime/phobos/dmd version from source. exactly what you can do with Reggae. now Reggae nee

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 05:13 PM, ketmar wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:34:43 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/18/2015 07:14 AM, ketmar wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 04:21:10 +, IgorStepanov wrote: This is international forum and we may allow only one kind of intolerance: we may hate programmers, w

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:34:43 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > On 06/18/2015 07:14 AM, ketmar wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 04:21:10 +, IgorStepanov wrote: >> >>> This is international forum and we may allow only one kind of >>> intolerance: we may hate programmers, which doesn't use D yet. >> >

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:40:21 -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > On 06/18/2015 10:30 AM, ketmar wrote: >> >> i never talked about binaries. what i'm talking about is that dub is >> not a package manager at all. >> >> how can i get a list of available packages? how can i search by package >> name or in

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:45:26 +, Etienne wrote: > My point is, we need to be able to extend it to build and link an > application with a custom druntime/phobos/dmd version from source. exactly what you can do with Reggae. now Reggae needs a good package manager, which dub isn't. signature.as

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
On 18 June 2015 at 16:43, Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > Thanks all for the feedback; a follow up is in order seeing as there are a > few misunderstandings of the situation. > > First off, framing this matter as impinging on someone's vacation is a >

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 18:55:52 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote: On 06/18/2015 12:41 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [...] I'm not sure I can commit to any guarantees, at least not on the level of a "primary release czar" anyway, but I'd be willing to pitch in when needed as a secondary or b

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 12:41 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I definitely am sorry for not handling this better. What I should have done in retrospect is to resume efforts to reach Martin privately after evidence came about that he's alive and well, then discuss reasonable communication expectations with

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 16:41:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I definitely am sorry for not handling this better. What I should have done in retrospect is to resume efforts to reach Martin privately after evidence came about that he's alive and well, then discuss reasonable communicatio

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Morbid.Obesity via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:43:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Thanks all for the feedback; a follow up is in order seeing as there are a few misunderstandings of the situation. First off, framing this matter as impinging on someone's vacation is a misinterpretation. Taking time off has

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Mattcoder via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 16:41:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I definitely am sorry for not handling this better. What I should have done in retrospect is to resume efforts to reach Martin privately after evidence came about that he's alive and well, then discuss reasonable communicatio

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 09:40 AM, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: Based on the the discussion on the forum it appears that the manner in which this decision has been executed has [...] ... in addition to almost starting an OT religious holy war. That was just an unrelated drive-by-spamming by a random troll w

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Timon Gehr via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 04:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: About the privacy aspect - the forum post came after repeated fruitless attempts of private contact. Addressing matters in person, privately, is of course the right way and the one I've tried through all channels I could think of. I think the

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 10:43 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: One thing I'll be trying to work on with Martin is a directory under tools/ that contains reasonably stable release building scripts for all platforms. What happened to the one I contributed last year? If there's bitrot or other issues that

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:43:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Thanks all for the feedback; a follow up is in order seeing as there are a few misunderstandings of the situation. [...] clip Yah, ideally the autotester would just build the release as well for each platform on the same ma

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 6/18/15 9:19 AM, Timon Gehr wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: About the privacy aspect - the forum post came after repeated fruitless attempts of private contact. Addressing matters in person, privately, is of course the right way and the one I've tried through all ch

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:32:12 +, weaselcat wrote: > On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:30:59 UTC, ketmar wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:14:28 +, Etienne wrote: >> >>> [...] >> >> i never talked about binaries. what i'm talking about is that dub is >> not a package manager at all. >> >> how c

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 16:41:51 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/18/15 9:19 AM, Timon Gehr wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:43 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: About the privacy aspect - the forum post came after repeated fruitless attempts of private contact. Addressing matters in person, pr

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Dennis Ritchie via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:43:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [...] Yes, D need more people, more sponsors, the most... Unfortunately, the development of language is carried out slowly enough bug fixes too slowly. I learn more D six months and I have to admit that whatever you do, it

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:37:08 UTC, ketmar wrote: dub is a build tool with an automatic dependency solver, it really shouldn't be called a package manager. and it's not a build tool too. or, it's a build tool in the sense of "bash is a build tool" -- it can call external commands. Regg

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
Thanks all for the feedback; a follow up is in order seeing as there are a few misunderstandings of the situation. First off, framing this matter as impinging on someone's vacation is a misinterpretation. Taking time off has nothing to do with it - anyone should. Just Walter, myself, the "This

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:43:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: To wit, I wrote this to Martin and Walter on May 31st: Today is May 31st, so we're entering the last month of H1. I'd like to get an early start on updating the vision document, and before creating yet another rambling

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 07:14 AM, ketmar wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 04:21:10 +, IgorStepanov wrote: This is international forum and we may allow only one kind of intolerance: we may hate programmers, which doesn't use D yet. we shouldn't hate them. they are poor people that simply can't see The Lig

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:30:59 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:14:28 +, Etienne wrote: [...] i never talked about binaries. what i'm talking about is that dub is not a package manager at all. how can i get a list of available packages? how can i search by package name

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/18/2015 10:30 AM, ketmar wrote: i never talked about binaries. what i'm talking about is that dub is not a package manager at all. how can i get a list of available packages? how can i search by package name or in package descriptions? using web site is not an option, that functionality s

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:08:31 UTC, ketmar wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:51:05 +, Etienne wrote: On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:37:15 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote: On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:22:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: I would like to ask, what can we improve in our tooling

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:14:28 +, Etienne wrote: > Not every package manager has to provide binaries. We simply build the > packages through dub. dub+dmd is a good source package manager in > itself, we need to write a dub.json for dmd/druntime/phobos and make it > possible to compile them throu

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread anonymous via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 13:40:43 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: As others have said this seems a bit harsh. I presume that by 'we' you mean that yourself and Walter arrived at this decision together? If you really felt the need to remove Martin from this position, the appropriate way woul

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:51:05 +, Etienne wrote: > On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:37:15 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote: >> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:22:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: >>> I would like to ask, what can we improve in our tooling and >>> infrastructure to lessen the burden on rele

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:37:15 UTC, Dragos Carp wrote: On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:22:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: I would like to ask, what can we improve in our tooling and infrastructure to lessen the burden on release czars? Merge dmd, druntime, phobos repos. If I was rel

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Craig Dillabaugh via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/17/15 5:38 AM, IgorStepanov wrote: He returned back to github and posted some messages. End alarm:) Glad to hear that. However, the need for two other release managers is still there. The role of Release Manager and

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Dragos Carp via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:22:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: I would like to ask, what can we improve in our tooling and infrastructure to lessen the burden on release czars? Merge dmd, druntime, phobos repos.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 10:09:45 UTC, Joakim wrote: Martin probably made a mistake by not making clear that he would be away from contact for a while, but I wonder if it was I don't think it matters if Martin did or did not make a mistake. Everybody make mistakes and talk past each other.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Dennis Ritchie via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 09:05:27 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. I'm speechless. +1 On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 10:09:44 +, Joakim wrote: > basically nobody wants to do, as it has responsibilities but basically > no compensating reward, and by removing Martin from the role, you might > actually have made his life easier! It doesn't sound like a punishment > to me. exactly. being fr

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 07:22:51 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: Yes - one gets so used to being able to reach people in the modern world, that a short period of disconnect leads to all kinds of concerns and doubts. Yes, it is interesting that new media creates new spaces and new types of perc

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 04:21:10 +, IgorStepanov wrote: > This is international forum and we may allow only one kind of > intolerance: we may hate programmers, which doesn't use D yet. we shouldn't hate them. they are poor people that simply can't see The Light yet. but even php coder can become

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: You wouldn't just not go to work for two weeks and then show up at your desk as if nothing happened. This kind of stuff needs some level of planning, barring exceptional events. For example, Adam could tell his readership "I

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 09:05:27 UTC, Marc Schütz wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. I'm speechless. +1

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. I'm speechless.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread wobbles via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 08:35:12 UTC, John Colvin wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 23:47:26 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [...] There is a very important difference with an actual job: an actual job with a salary. You ju

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 23:47:26 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [...] There is a very important difference with an actual job: an actual job with a salary. You just can't expect the same level of commitment from a volunteer

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm very happy Martin is doing well but I am disappointed about this unprofessional behavior. In fact I could only assume the worst because he seemed one of the most serious people I've dealt with, so this came as quite a ma

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 6/17/2015 4:29 AM, berlin wrote: [...] This is out of place here. Please stop.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Tofu Ninja via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. Thanks, Andrei https://sonnekfit.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/anchorman.jpg

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 06:54:53 UTC, Daniel N wrote: On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:05:55 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 18/06/2015 3:48 p.m., dnewbie wrote: I understand the feeling, but that seems unnecessarily harsh to demote Martin, since he is the one that have done the most for r

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-18 Thread Elvis Zhou via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 23:47:26 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [...] There is a very important difference with an actual job: an actual job with a salary. You just can't expect the same level of commitment from a volunteer

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Daniel N via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:05:55 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 18/06/2015 3:48 p.m., dnewbie wrote: I understand the feeling, but that seems unnecessarily harsh to demote Martin, since he is the one that have done the most for release, and it yielded actual results. Indeed. +1 and I

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread IgorStepanov via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:54:00 UTC, Morbid.Obesity wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:16:09 UTC, berlin wrote: well, read something to your world situation. take it from an old kufr that dos not want to live under islamic law: http://www.jihadwatch.org/ http://www.thereligionofpeac

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, IgorStepanov wrote: On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:54:00 UTC, Morbid.Obesity wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:16:09 UTC, berlin wrote: well, read something to your world situation. take it from an old kufr that dos not want to live under islami

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread IgorStepanov via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 02:22:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. I think that was unnecessarily harsh and uni

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 18/06/2015 3:48 p.m., dnewbie wrote: I understand the feeling, but that seems unnecessarily harsh to demote Martin, since he is the one that have done the most for release, and it yielded actual results. Indeed. +1 and I do not do so/say so lightly.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread dnewbie via Digitalmars-d
I understand the feeling, but that seems unnecessarily harsh to demote Martin, since he is the one that have done the most for release, and it yielded actual results. Indeed.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Lost Indian via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 01:34:32 UTC, Etienne wrote: To be fair it does sound like he was asking for it. I wouldn't provoke an armed man who's holding my 4 yr old captive. I mean, the young ones have been butchered in War since before mankind. War is Hell. This stuff has happened recently,

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: I'm very happy Martin is doing well but I am disappointed about this unprofessional behavior. In fact I could only assume the worst […] You thought he was dead? O_o I can virtually picture thousands of volunteers lining u

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread bitwise via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:16:37 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: We are therefore looking for a new release czar. On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:53:59 -0400, Morbid.Obesity wrote: Of course, then we'll be all sick from having no immunity from all the bugs that have learned to eat us. I don't thi

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Morbid.Obesity via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:16:09 UTC, berlin wrote: well, read something to your world situation. take it from an old kufr that dos not want to live under islamic law: http://www.jihadwatch.org/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://schnellmann.org/Under

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. I think that was unnecessarily harsh and unilateral, not to mention demotivating (to both Martin and any people w

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread WTF via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 6/17/15 5:38 AM, IgorStepanov wrote: You wouldn't just not go to work for two weeks and then show up at your desk as if nothing happened. This kind of stuff needs some level of planning, barring exceptional events. For

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Lost American via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 01:01:09 UTC, Lost Indian wrote: BTW if you want to learn about Islam, learn it from a muslim and not hate propagation sites. Do that at your own risk. Many in Europe did that and ended up converting to this cult. There is a tenet of Islam called Taqiyya that one

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 01:01:09 UTC, Lost Indian wrote: There is story of Banda Bahadur (an Indian warrior) who was captured along with his 4 year old son and asked to convert. On refusal, his son of 4 years was butchered in front of his eyes To be fair it does sound like he was asking f

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 23:47:26 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: The role of Release Manager and "This Week In D" are the two ones somewhat special in the community: they're closest to an actual "job", in the sense that regulari

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 01:01:09 UTC, Lost Indian wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:28:52 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: [...] I do not know about the other parts of the world, but where I live, Muslims invaded a thousand year back without any provocation and with the same ferocity that the

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Brad Anderson via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 23:47:26 UTC, deadalnix wrote: There is a very important difference with an actual job: an actual job with a salary. You just can't expect the same level of commitment from a volunteer than an employee. I understand the feeling, but that seems unnecessarily harsh

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Lost Indian via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:28:52 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: It's your anger and hate you need to take a hard look at, it's taking you to a dark place. Whatever it is that's really eating you, I doubt it's the muslims that caused it. I do not know about the other parts of the world, but where

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread bitwise via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:35:47 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: With this we revoke Martin's role as release czar. His github access will remain the same for the time being. Shame! http://i.imgur.com/OyLhxfc.gif Bit

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 23:47:26 UTC, deadalnix wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [...] There is a very important difference with an actual job: an actual job with a salary. You just can't expect the same level of commitment from a volunteer

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 18:35:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: The role of Release Manager and "This Week In D" are the two ones somewhat special in the community: they're closest to an actual "job", in the sense that regularity and professionalism are crucial. You need to "show up" and

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On 06/17/2015 08:35 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > The role of Release Manager and "This Week In D" are the two ones > somewhat special in the community: they're closest to an actual "job", > in the sense that regularity and professionalism are crucial. You need > to "show up" and do it. If "This

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 6/17/15 5:38 AM, IgorStepanov wrote: He returned back to github and posted some messages. End alarm:) Glad to hear that. However, the need for two other release managers is still there. The role of Release Manager and "This Week In D" are the two ones somewhat special in the community: t

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread berlin via Digitalmars-d
angry - yes after getting stabbed on my way home from work with an allahu akbar. hate - no. i despise the muslim religion for its pedophile men (and prophet) marrying 9 yr. old girls, beheading people because they are no muslims, raping themselves through the middle east and thinking of christ

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Etienne Cimon via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:16:09 UTC, berlin wrote: well, read something to your world situation. take it from an old kufr that dos not want to live under islamic law: http://www.jihadwatch.org/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://schnellmann.org/Under

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Abdulhaq via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 16:16:09 UTC, berlin wrote: well, read something to your world situation. take it from an old kufr that dos not want to live under islamic law: http://www.jihadwatch.org/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://schnellmann.org/Under

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread berlin via Digitalmars-d
well, read something to your world situation. take it from an old kufr that dos not want to live under islamic law: http://www.jihadwatch.org/ http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://schnellmann.org/Understanding_Muhammad_Contents.html you might also want to tak

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:26:57 UTC, Etienne wrote: Was he even serious? Sounded ironic to me, people who think like that around here in Canada are laughed at because we all immigrated 200-300 years ago :) I don' think that's particularly true unless you've never been outside Toronto.

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d
On 06/17/2015 09:26 AM, Etienne wrote: Was he even serious? Sounded ironic to me, people who think like that around here in Canada are laughed at because we all immigrated 200-300 years ago :) That's pretty cool of Canada really. That historical fact is just as true for the US, but down here

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Abdulhaq via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:55:14 UTC, Etienne wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:48:50 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:26:57 UTC, Etienne wrote: The likely explanation for people being out of touch for a few days is not muderous muslim immigrants. When you star

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:48:50 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:26:57 UTC, Etienne wrote: The likely explanation for people being out of touch for a few days is not muderous muslim immigrants. When you start to think that it is, you need look at the state of your m

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Abdulhaq via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 13:26:57 UTC, Etienne wrote: The likely explanation for people being out of touch for a few days is not muderous muslim immigrants. When you start to think that it is, you need look at the state of your mind, not the immigrants. Was he even serious? Sounded iron

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Etienne via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 12:57:51 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 12:14:05 UTC, berlin wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 11:51:30 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: maybe one of the brain surgeons from africa (comming by boat) or some muslim (turkish, arabic or otherwise) got him

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread Abdulhaq via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 12:14:05 UTC, berlin wrote: On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 11:51:30 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote: maybe one of the brain surgeons from africa (comming by boat) or some muslim (turkish, arabic or otherwise) got him at after 16:00? I know, don't feed the trolls, but: Your p

Re: Martin Nowak is officially MIA

2015-06-17 Thread IgorStepanov via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 17 June 2015 at 02:16:37 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Hello, Martin has not replied to any communication for more than two weeks now, and I'm starting to fear something might have happened to him. If anyone in Berlin could get in touch with him and let me/us know he's alrigh

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