[digitalradio] What's so great about MT63

2007-09-14 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Simon, When MT63 was "popular" it was because of the expectation that it was a good mode for poor conditions and it was somewhat better than others for handling QRM. It appeared to die because there was a lot of criticism of the bandwidth it utilized. I rarely hear a signal these days but usuall

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Simon Brown wrote: > > Question - what's so special about MT63 - where / when is it used? > From what I read it's not so great for chit-chat. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV MT63 is an interesting mode. It has very rapid thruput, and is highly resistant to QRM. Thus it actually is an excellent mode

[digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
> Question - what's so special about MT63 - where / when is it used? >From my point of view, MT63 has high number of carriers, which implies low crest factor - the effective transmitted power will be much lower than of single tone mode like Olivia, if you make sure PA is not overdriven by peaks w

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Claudio Ruben
A rookie question: What program let use Pactor 3. Claudio-LU2VCD 2007/9/14, Patrick Novak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi John, > > Ah... well the world is not fair... > > Anyway, any time you find the propagation to VK2 OK give me a call. I'd > love to do Pactor 3 QSO keyboard to keyboard, haven'

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rick
Hi Claudio, Although there are software versions of Pactor 1 (the original FSK mode Pactor), they require using an Operating System that can control the port more directly, e.g., MS-DOS running only the one program. A friend of mine does this on an old computer and gets very good results that h

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Rick, Take any non-GUI or even a GUI OS that has been tailored down for the embedded application at hand that is running sufficient CPU/RAM and you could implement a PI through PIII solution if SCS would allow it. PII and PIII if fully documented could be done using a PC Sound Device Modem

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Vojtech Bubnik wrote: > > > Question - what's so special about MT63 - where / when is it used? > > > From my point of view, MT63 has high number of carriers, which > > implies > low crest factor - the effective transmitted power will be much lower > than of single tone mode like Olivia, if you ma

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Got you on the list Patrick. In the late 70's early 80's I would work a VK2 every night on Amtor along with G3RSP/MM and others. Them was the days. John At 11:23 PM 9/13/2007, you wrote: >Hi John, > >Ah... well the world is not fair... > >Anyway, any time you find the propagation to VK2 OK give m

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I think MARS adopted it so it has some momentum there. Are they still using it? Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:06 am, Simon Brown wrote: > Question - what's so special about MT63 - where / when is it used? From > what > I read it's not so great for chit-chat. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rick
Hi Steve, I don't see SCS holding anyone back from coming up with a similar system tailor made for current computers. The reason you would want to do this is to use the technologies that succeeded in working well and not reinventing the wheel that sometimes seems to be happening with the pleth

[digitalradio] Re: So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > - At least one person who actually maintains and deploys ALE in the > military is not very impressed with it as there are problems with not > working that well, particularly no having good throughput such as for > mess

Re: [digitalradio] What's so great about MT63

2007-09-14 Thread ktnjoepark
Hi Andy, and Group. I have been working on MT63, still a beginner. I am using IZ8BLY ie MixW. you are right it is hard to find signals to copy. I think I read some instructions that 10109.5 was a possibility, Have never heard anything there. I am now monitoring 14077.5 Joe WB6AGR Mod

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread ktnjoepark
Both, Navy Mars and Army Mars are using it. Joe WB6AGR/AAT9EK ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Re: [digitalradio] What's so great about MT63

2007-09-14 Thread F.R. Ashley
Seems like a while back, 14.109.50 was the "suggested" MT63 frequency. As for what's so great about it, I always thought it was a fun mode..so different from everything else.As for speed, all modes can outrun the crap out of my typing speed, (and just about everyone else's too) so I reall

RE: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rud Merriam
Hi Rick, I also feel the frustration of many modes that are not that different from one another. My main interest is in digital messaging rather than digital QSOs but a good waveform would be positive for both modes. As you work on your research I would like to see you put it on my new web site

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Votjech, Yes you are right the crest factor in MT63 is very low (mean power/ crest power = 0.1 (OFDM general problem) for 0.76 in Olivia... Other problems: due to the big number of carriers (64) you need a good calibration of the sound card. Otherwise, you decode nothing. The minimum S/

Re: [digitalradio] What's so great about MT63

2007-09-14 Thread ktnjoepark
I have never heard anything on 14,109.5 either Joe WB6AGR ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

[digitalradio] Re: What's so great about MT63

2007-09-14 Thread expeditionradio
> Seems like a while back, 14.109.50 was the "suggested" MT63 frequency. > 73 Buddy WB4M Hi Buddy, MT63 is an excellent mode, and it was a pioneer. But, over the years, other methods have mostly eclipsed MT63 for ham HF operation. MT63 activity died, and about the same time, ALE activity in

[digitalradio] Telereader TNC - Help needed!

2007-09-14 Thread Barry Murrell
Hi All I have acquired a Tasco Telereader TNC-24MkII Allmode terminal, with no software. Is there anyone in the group familiar with this unit that can help me to find any software that supports it, or can advise how to set it up? Can't even find it under the list of TNCs supported by AGWPE :-( Th

Re: [digitalradio] So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Patrick Novak
Yep you are right... The CONDX are so down now... the worst in my memory (I'm 62 and licensed since 1968). I get the occasional break on 30 m on CW in your late evening. We may be lucky one day 73 Patrick John Becker, WØJAB wrote: > > Got you on the list Patrick. > In the late 70's early

Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Rick
Hi Demetre, I was not suggesting that hams would be using $5000 modems. I won't even buy the "relatively" low cost SCS modem for ~ $1000. The reason of course, is that we now have amateur sound card modes, and are likely to have more of them in the future, and they are for the most part at no

Re: [digitalradio] Re: So there I was -

2007-09-14 Thread Jose Amador
It may hold the link, but thruput goes wy down Jose, CO2JA Rick wrote: > Does Pactor 3 really work well at -18 dB? I would like to see some > tests that show this, but have not found much on the internet. I > understand that some hams compared Clover products and presented the

Re: [digitalradio] Telereader TNC - Help needed!

2007-09-14 Thread Jose Amador
JAS-1 was the first japanese amateur radio satellite that had a particular digital mode. Jose, CO2JA --- Barry Murrell wrote: > Hi All > > I have acquired a Tasco Telereader TNC-24MkII Allmode terminal, with > no software. Is there anyone in the group familiar with this unit > that can hel

Re: [digitalradio] What's so great about MT63

2007-09-14 Thread Howard Brown
Buddy, I am not that great a typist either. But if I have message to transfer the speed is needed. MT63 can really go if you use it at 2kHz bandwidth. 73 Howard K5HB - Original Message From: F.R. Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX - added for comments JT-65 A and MT-63

2007-09-14 Thread Gunner
Hello all, I have been watching this thread with interest, as these modes have become my favorite. I am very interested in their promotion and increasing the use and awareness of Olivia (I'm club member #028), MFSK16/8, Feld-Hell (Club member #781), Domino, Throb and the more esoteric PSK vari

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Michael O'Bannon
I'm very much a newcomer to digital modes, so please pardon this question. I'm interested in designing a QRP rig that uses digital modes for portable operation in the field, much like the KX-1 and ATS do for CW. Other that PSK31, which digital modes are best suited for this type of operation?

Re: [digitalradio] Global Link Network

2007-09-14 Thread Kevin & Natalia
Andrew, It would appear to be a maritime system, improving on the current services they already use. Guess it would be cheaper then using the satellite service. I can't read German, but I did see Pactor in there. O - I wish I had one of those antenna systems they showed in their photo. Kevin -

Re: [digitalradio] Re: The decline of Olivia and DominoEX

2007-09-14 Thread Chris Kennedy
Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: > I think MARS adopted it so it has some momentum there. Are they still > using it? Increasingly so. Since most traffic is pre-prepared the fact that keyboard interactive has some lag isn't considered a big deal. The region six AF digital net is pretty much an all MT63

Re: [digitalradio] Best digital modes for portable QRP

2007-09-14 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Olivia. Andy K3UK On 9/14/07, newdendrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm very much a newcomer to digital modes, so please pardon this > question. I'm interested in designing a QRP rig that uses digital > modes for portable operation in the field, much like the KX-1 and ATS > do for CW. Othe