Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-11 Thread Rein Couperus
PSKMail uses PSK125 ot PSK63 so it does not use ARQ. Pskmail uses arq on top of psk125. Rein PA0R Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread John Bradley
The purpose of PSkmail is to give portable and mobile users a wormhole to the internet. 73, Rein PA0R I guess, from my point of view, PSK mail won't really take off until it is written for windows as well as Linnux. Despite the linnux user's best efforts, there are still a bunch of us

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
I have to agree with John on this. When you have 90%+ using MS OS's, some old ones and some newer and some very new, the other OS's struggle to compete, and that means Apple and Linux. And my recent posting on the HFDEC group outlined some of my difficulties with trying the QEMU, Live

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
If I recall this pskmail is a ARQ type program with a TX RX timing close to Amtor and Pactor. If this is correct, will it still work with this timing? The last time a Amtor type linux program come out it could not do any better then 37.6% of what a TNC did running side by side. Rick and John

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Walt DuBose
Rick wrote: And down the road, there would be nothing stopping the use of the open MIL-STD/FED-STD/STANAG protocols for higher speeds. It is possible that even the U.S. could someday use the high speed single tone modems on HFwith a change in FCC regulations. And maybe they really work well

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Rein Couperus
The timing is completely different. Pactor sends 1 block at the time, pskmail bundles 8 blocks in a frame, resulting in a lot less turnaround. Block length is adaptive and changes with channel quality. Amtor was 45 Bd ARQ. Pskmail is 125 Bd ARQ. Pskmail is slower than a 1k2 Bd TNC, but it takes a

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 03:34 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: Pskmail is slower than a 1k2 Bd TNC, but it takes a bandwidth of 125 Hz rather than 12 kHz. 12 Khz ? ? ? ? ? So rather then getting a small block rejected you now have a muck bigger one trashed. I fail to see why it is so much better.

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Walt DuBose
John Bradley wrote: The purpose of PSkmail is to give portable and mobile users a wormhole to the internet. 73, Rein PA0R I guess, from my point of view, PSK mail won't really take off until it is written for windows as well as Linnux. Despite the linnux user's best efforts,

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Andrew O'Brien
On 9/10/07, John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:34 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: Pskmail is slower than a 1k2 Bd TNC, but it takes a bandwidth of 125 Hz rather than 12 kHz. 12 Khz ? ? ? ? ? So rather then getting a small block rejected you now have a muck bigger one

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Rick
Hi Walt, Winlink2000 does not have an HF sound card implementation. They are possibly working on it, but it has been 2 and 1/2 years since they stopped further development on SCAMP (Sound Card Amateur Messaging Protocol) when they discovered that it would not be possible to get it to work

Re: [digitalradio] Pskmail............... lack of stations

2007-09-10 Thread Walt DuBose
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: If I recall this pskmail is a ARQ type program with a TX RX timing close to Amtor and Pactor. If this is correct, will it still work with this timing? The last time a Amtor type linux program come out it could not do any better then 37.6% of what a TNC did running