RE: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-05 Thread Dave AA6YQ
>>>AA6YQ comments below From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J. Moen Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:11 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK S

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-05 Thread J. Moen
n HF", though. > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ > > -Original Message- > From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on > Behalf Of J. Moen > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:04 PM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subje

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-04 Thread W2XJ
Well said Alan I agree, going to the FCC anytime is marching the hobby one step closer to the grave. From: Alan Barrow Reply-To: Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:06:56 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages) pd4u_dares

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-04 Thread Toby Burnett
Ok hang on I just read the statement. Doesn't it say that use of spread spectrum is not permitted below such and such a band. However I see reasonably no different a spread spectrum exists to the USB /lsb/ 20m packet, amtor/ pactor etc etc i.e. 2.4khz or less (and AM is that very wide ) tha

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-04 Thread Dave AA6YQ
view of amateur radio." AMEN. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Alan Barrow To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages) pd4u_dares wrot

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-04 Thread J. Moen
From: Alan Barrow To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages) pd4u_dares wrote: > ... considering legal action ... has an apparent plan ... may have u

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread W6IDS
Pst! Marc! Uh, 'scuse me but the only one uttering such thoughts thus far is YOU. No one else, just YOU. You might want to cool down the dramatics and take a breath, less you attract others with the same flair and end up creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread Fred VE3FAL
Gang: I am out of here for now, will try again in a month when the smoke settles.. Fred CIW649/VE3FAL CFARS Member SATERN Member SATERN Amateur Radio Liaison Officer DEC Amethyst District ARES Try Hamspots, PSKreporter, and K3UK Sked Page http://www.obriensw

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread Dave Ackrill
Alan Barrow wrote: > And think real hard next time before calling the FCC. Ham radio was the > net loser in this episode. We are already viewed as squabbling children > at the FCC, and this type of episode just reinforces that view of > amateur radio. And so it was in the UK over the endless deba

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread Dave Ackrill
pd4u_dares wrote: > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Toby Burnett" <..> But to > be honest I don'' t think I shall bother too now as there seems much to much > grief happening from this. >> Like I say, it seemed a fair experimental mode but it is wider than <..> >> It'd be nice to see

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread Dave Ackrill
pd4u_dares wrote: > Though I have some doubts that there actually was a "debate". There have been > arguments as in all debates. But the figurative meaning of the "arguments" > was getting the overhand over the literal meaning of arguments in a > debate...HIHI Marc, on many occasions I have ha

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread KH6TY
I really don't think there any "ROS haters". ROS is a mode that is fun to use and works well. There may be some who complain that it interferes with the NCDXF beacon network, but the suggested frequency was then moved upward, in the true spirit of cooperation. However, there is a misconception

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread José A. Amador
In spite of temperaments (my roots are spanish somewhere in the past) it has gone to extremes it never should have got even near to. Statements like "FCC will have to pay me to see my code", the threat of legal action to someone who just was looking for his own spectrum management administra

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread Alan Barrow
pd4u_dares wrote: > ... considering legal action ... has an apparent plan ... may have > understandably frustrated Jose > I really have mixed feelings about how this all played out as well. While I don't agree with ban lists, I can see where the software author could get very frustrated at wha

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread Toby Burnett
Marc, I'm not saying that, I'd be happy to support ROS and I do think it's a rather good experimental mode. Ok so it is wide but as I said "experimental I think Jose did a fantastic job of making a software package for a completely new type of ham radio mode. BUT, The debate is getting out o

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on Withdrawal of Support for ROS (K3UK Sked Pages)

2010-03-03 Thread w4lde
WELL SAID 73 de Ron W4LDE On 3/3/2010 10:36 AM, pd4u_dares wrote: ... considering legal action ... has an apparent plan ... may have understandably frustrated Jose --- So as far as I understand it the developer with a Spanish temperament is understandably frustrated by actions of s