[tdf-discuss] Re: Happy New Year from Arizona

On 12/31/2010 08:38 PM, Timothy Mark Brennan, Jr. wrote: > Happy New Year from Brazil > > 2011/1/1 Prabath Galagamage : >> Happy New Year from Sri Lanka Happy New Year from San Jose/Milpitas, California -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http:/

Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy New Year from Arizona

Happy new year from Madagascar. I wish you all the best for you, your family and your friends Kind regards Sophie On 01/01/2011 08:36, nitipem...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year from Indonesia Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: "Timothy Mark

Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy New Year from Arizona

Happy new year from Indonesia Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: "Timothy Mark Brennan, Jr." Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 02:38:42 To: Reply-To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy New Year from Arizona Happy New Year f

Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy New Year from Arizona

Happy New Year from Brazil 2011/1/1 Prabath Galagamage : > Happy New Year from Sri Lanka > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: > >> Happy New Year from "The Valley of the Sun" in Arizona.  Although it >> tried to be "The Valley of the Snow" with this last storm. >> >> Despite

Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy New Year from Arizona

Happy New Year from Sri Lanka On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: > Happy New Year from "The Valley of the Sun" in Arizona. Although it > tried to be "The Valley of the Snow" with this last storm. > > Despite strange weather patterns, here's wishing all of you a BETTER new > y

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:51:48AM +, Ian Lynch wrote: > School systems don't teach word processing, they teach MS Word. > It's why we need better education and a certification programme for users > that covers stuff like file formats and the principles of WP not just one > product. What's rea

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Sorry to get into the discussion, but what are your goals, to be arrogant, or not? Or to make ODF the defacto standard which saddly is still NOT? The important thing is to fulfill the needs from potential users, specially in the enterprise. *e.g. *E-mail composers in the enterprise usually support

Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy new year 2011 from germany !

HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM BULGARIA! Hope the new 2011 will be even better for us and for YOU, of course! Have a great New Year evening tonight and celebrate with all the joy and love you have! -- Nikola Yanev http://www.gericom.free.bg http://www.gericom.wordpress.com Linux,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:35:24AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: > > > >wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, > > Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is > TOTALLY ARROGANT? > If I send you an email in plain text and you r

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:35:24AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: > > > >wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, > > Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is > TOTALLY ARROGANT? > If I send you an email in plain text and you r

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:35:24AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: > > > >wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, > > Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is > TOTALLY ARROGANT? > If I send you an email in plain text and you r

[tdf-discuss] Happy New Year from Arizona

Happy New Year from "The Valley of the Sun" in Arizona. Although it tried to be "The Valley of the Snow" with this last storm. Despite strange weather patterns, here's wishing all of you a BETTER new year. Craig A. Eddy Tyche -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundati

[tdf-discuss] Happy new year 2011 from germany !

Hi guys, happy new year 2011 !! Life your dream Chynte -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Þann fös 31.des 2010 17:04, skrifaði Paul Gress: On 12/31/10 05:07 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 30/12/10 20:41, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2010/12/30 2:19 PM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: OOXML will spread anyway because MS Office 2007 and 2010 use this format by default. Nothing you can do

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > On Fri Dec 31 2010 11:45:46 GMT-0800 (PST)  Carl Symons wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Andy Brown >> wrote: > >>> Yep.  Go back to the first message in this thread and follow the links. >>>  Very eye opening. >>> >>> Andy >>> >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri Dec 31 2010 11:45:46 GMT-0800 (PST) Carl Symons wrote: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Yep. Go back to the first message in this thread and follow the links. Very eye opening. Andy You're right, some interesting reading there and on the links. The Go-oo home

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > On Fri Dec 31 2010 11:17:28 GMT-0800 (PST)  Carl Symons wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andy Brown >> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri Dec 31 2010 10:53:16 GMT-0800 (PST)  Paul Gress wrote: On 12/31/10 07:50 AM, Gordon Burgess-Pa

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 12/31/10 08:23 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are using

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri Dec 31 2010 11:17:28 GMT-0800 (PST) Carl Symons wrote: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andy Brown wrote: On Fri Dec 31 2010 10:53:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Paul Gress wrote: On 12/31/10 07:50 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: The answer to ALL this nonsense is surely this. If you receive an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

There are many times in which HTML doesn't translate correctly to a recipient. The lowest common denominator, then, is plain text. That being the case I habitually set my email reader to send in plain text. Also, for one who uses gpg (or it's equivalent), even occasionally, the encrypting and/or

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > On Fri Dec 31 2010 10:53:16 GMT-0800 (PST)  Paul Gress wrote: >> >> On 12/31/10 07:50 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >>> >>> The answer to ALL this nonsense is surely this. >>> If you receive an OOXML document, politely reply to the sender an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > On 2010/12/31 12:15 PM  Carl Symons wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Paul Gress  wrote: >>> >>> I checked my OOo, dev m95 (3.4), it doesn't support save as "docx" and >>> 3.3 >>> rc8 (3.3 m18) also doesn't support "docx" in sav

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri Dec 31 2010 10:53:16 GMT-0800 (PST) Paul Gress wrote: On 12/31/10 07:50 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: The answer to ALL this nonsense is surely this. If you receive an OOXML document, politely reply to the sender and request that they send it in another format, explaining why. And

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Mark Preston wrote: > If I may inject what I hope is a little sense into this argument:- > Thank you for injecting sense into what had become entirely emotional and irrational B^) > A major strength of Open Office is and always was that it could read > and often

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 2010/12/31 12:15 PM Carl Symons wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Paul Gress wrote: I checked my OOo, dev m95 (3.4), it doesn't support save as "docx" and 3.3 rc8 (3.3 m18) also doesn't support "docx" in save as. What version are you using that supports docx? > From standard Kubun

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 12/31/10 07:50 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: The answer to ALL this nonsense is surely this. If you receive an OOXML document, politely reply to the sender and request that they send it in another format, explaining why. And BTW, the latest Open Office ALSO supports writing to OOXML forma

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > And if you are sent an OOXML document to edit and return then it's bad > manners not to send it back in the format it was sent to you, just like it's > bad manners to receive a plain text email and reply in HTML > How about if

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Paul Gress wrote: > On 12/30/10 08:09 PM, Carl Symons wrote: >> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=2493&p=169740#p169507 >> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20101219121621828 >> >> ; Unless this

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

@rgb.mldc- if your request for a document included a format type, you might even include a link to LO as well. My copy of OO.o opens docx, so I can't say docx is unreadable. Everything I run is tweaked a little, so I am not a standard use case. There was a long thread on one of the Linux lists to

[tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 142 (3894-3923)

Dear all, I agree with Mr. Schulz, let's reflect and think what is the best way to fulfill the business needs of all the Libre Office potential users in 2011. I would love to ban all MS Formats and establish ODF as standard for everyone in the world, but fact is that until ODF Office Suites domin

Re: [tdf-discuss] Happy New Year 2011

Il 31/12/2010 17:40, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto: > Dear all, > > In a few hours the year 2010 will come to an end. While I don't think > there's any reason to panic about that I would suggest to look a bit > backwards and reflect on what we have accomplished altogether. 2010 was > quite a year,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

@svenki: it is nice to know the problems with conversion are minor. The situation here is that the company does not have any plans to convert. They live in a brand-named world and are preparing students for going to work in the usa. My main point was echoed in other posts here, that it is poor pl

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dictionary Syncing

On 31/12/10 16:00, sophie wrote: > You can reach them on the FR list, they are part of our community since > a long time. But adding the code won't be enough, there is a lot of work > behind that needs several hands. So my advice should be first to look > for a community to handle the effort. > >

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote (31-12-10 13:14) On 31/12/10 09:30, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: FYI for those that aren't aware. Microsoft office 2010 supports ODF format for opening and saving documents now. So does 2007 SP2 as well. However in 2007 the opening of ods documents has deliberately bro

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 12/31/10 05:07 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 30/12/10 20:41, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2010/12/30 2:19 PM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: OOXML will spread anyway because MS Office 2007 and 2010 use this format by default. Nothing you can do about it I'm afraid Yes you can do somethi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

Hi Mark, all, Mark Preston wrote (31-12-10 16:11) If I may inject what I hope is a little sense into this argument:- A major strength of Open Office is and always was that it could read and often write documents in many proprietary formats. That strength should remain solidly a feature of Libre

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

2010/12/31 sophie : > On 31/12/2010 18:56, Anton Meixome wrote: >> >> 2010/12/31 Michael Wheatland: >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:26 PM, pierre choffardet >>>  wrote: Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : > > A major feature I find irritating in word processors is th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

I think that is going to be a problem getting this integrated into LO is finding the man power to code whats necessary into LO for this to work. On 12/31/10 5:38 PM, Sophie wrote: On 31/12/2010 19:24, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Question becomes Sophie is he willing to work on integration into LO,

[tdf-discuss] Happy New Year 2011

Dear all, In a few hours the year 2010 will come to an end. While I don't think there's any reason to panic about that I would suggest to look a bit backwards and reflect on what we have accomplished altogether. 2010 was quite a year, and 2011 is going to be an exciting year as well. I would lik

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

On 31/12/2010 19:24, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Question becomes Sophie is he willing to work on integration into LO, as well as to provide support for other teams to create dictionaries for other languages. I can't answer for him :-) I'm quite sure that he will provide support to other teams, bu

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 2010/12/31 7:23 AM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are usi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 17:14, Steven Shelton wrote: > On 12/31/2010 10:03 AM, Kevin André wrote: >> I would suggest the following instead. Support OOXML completely, >> but when the user saves his/her document in a proprietary format >> display a confirmation message which says something like: "Y

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

Question becomes Sophie is he willing to work on integration into LO, as well as to provide support for other teams to create dictionaries for other languages. On 12/31/10 5:17 PM, Sophie wrote: On 31/12/2010 18:56, Anton Meixome wrote: 2010/12/31 Michael Wheatland: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/30/2010 5:14 PM, BRM wrote: > Agree. LibO should only read OOXML if anything at all. [snip] > ODF for that matter - should treat OOXML like Microsoft treats ODF > and other formats - as third party as possible. In other words, > read support

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Il 31/12/2010 15:31, RGB ES ha scritto: > A possible compromise???: move all (I mean ALL) non native formats to > the Export menu and let save/save as for the native formats only. > Also, disable the possibility to change the default format for saving > documents: in my experience on forums, many p

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

On 31/12/2010 19:15, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Sophie try get him on the mailing list. I am sure he would wanna see and read all of this. I'll try, yes, of course :) I'm sure he'll be very happy to read the thread! Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@docume

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

On 31/12/2010 18:56, Anton Meixome wrote: 2010/12/31 Michael Wheatland: On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:26 PM, pierre choffardet wrote: Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

Sophie try get him on the mailing list. I am sure he would wanna see and read all of this. On 12/31/10 5:03 PM, Sophie wrote: Hi, On 31/12/2010 18:59, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Is this only for the french dictionary or do they work on dictionaries for other languages? Everything can be ported t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2010 10:03 AM, Kevin André wrote: > I would suggest the following instead. Support OOXML completely, > but when the user saves his/her document in a proprietary format > display a confirmation message which says something like: "You are > sa

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

Hi, On 31/12/2010 18:59, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Is this only for the french dictionary or do they work on dictionaries for other languages? Everything can be ported to other languages, that was the initial aim. I do not have the time this evening, but there has been some presentation, and if

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dictionary Syncing

On 31/12/2010 18:45, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-12-31 05:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of other machines, and would really like to be able

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

Is this only for the french dictionary or do they work on dictionaries for other languages? On 12/31/10 3:00 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, On 31/12/2010 16:56, pierre choffardet wrote: Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is th

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

2010/12/31 Michael Wheatland : > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:26 PM, pierre choffardet > wrote: >> Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : >>> >>> A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of >>> dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, >>>

[tdf-discuss] Re: Dictionary Syncing

Le 2010-12-31 05:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of other machines, and would really like to be able to take my dictionary with me. Whilst I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

If I may inject what I hope is a little sense into this argument:- A major strength of Open Office is and always was that it could read and often write documents in many proprietary formats. That strength should remain solidly a feature of Libre Office and for exactly the same reasons. When it co

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 15:31, RGB ES wrote: > A possible compromise???: move all (I mean ALL) non native formats to > the Export menu and let save/save as for the native formats only. > Also, disable the possibility to change the default format for saving > documents: in my experience on forums,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 140 (3843-3863)

I need to be able to open Excel files in ODF. It would be a deal breaker for me.On 12/31/2010 8:42 AM, Mark Preston wrote:I should have thought that, with the massive issues even Microsoft has of meeting the alleged standard they have set, it was fairly obvious why other software has not tried

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 140 (3843-3863)

I should have thought that, with the massive issues even Microsoft has of meeting the alleged standard they have set, it was fairly obvious why other software has not tried to meet it. ODF works, is well-supported and even works in Microsoft Office so with respect the answer is to use ODF and not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:26 PM, pierre choffardet wrote: > Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : >> >> A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of >> dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, >> and >> occasional use of other machines

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

A possible compromise???: move all (I mean ALL) non native formats to the Export menu and let save/save as for the native formats only. Also, disable the possibility to change the default format for saving documents: in my experience on forums, many problems are fixed when you explain users that it

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Hi Gordon Em 31-12-2010 08:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker escreveu: On 30/12/10 20:41, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2010/12/30 2:19 PM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: (snip) None of you get the point, do you. 1. It is arrogant to return a document in a format different to that which was sent to you. (T

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:51, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 31 December 2010 10:37, Kevin André wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker >> wrote: >> >> > 1. It is arrogant to return a document in a format different to that >> which >> > was sent to you. (That's why email client

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

Hi all, On 31/12/2010 16:56, pierre choffardet wrote: Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of other machines, and would really l

Re: [tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

Le 31/12/2010 11:51, James Clemence a écrit : A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of other machines, and would really like to be able to take my dictionary with me. Whilst I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

Sorry for stepping in so late in the discussion. I have seen many messages, but they all miss the key issue: interoperability. TDF is FOR interoperability, which is a user (and a market) need. TDF is not AGAINST Microsoft, although many of its founding members - including myself - have been

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

Hi, On 31/12/2010 16:27, RGB ES wrote: It says oracle ("based on oracle" to be precise) because most of the code is copyrighted by oracle. Please, google a bit, it does not hurt... Both of you are right. In fact, it's the official version plus some go-oo patches. So you get a mix of the two vers

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

It says oracle ("based on oracle" to be precise) because most of the code is copyrighted by oracle. Please, google a bit, it does not hurt... 2010/12/31 Gordon Burgess-Parker : > On 31/12/10 13:23, RGB ES wrote: >> >> Ubuntu's (and openSUSE's and sabayon's and...) "OOo" is go-oo, not >> oracle's O

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 30 December 2010 20:19, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 30/12/10 17:27, Larry Gusaas wrote: > >> I will not support or use LibreOffice >> until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file >> format. There is absolutely no need to write in this proprietary format. To >> do

[tdf-discuss] Dictionary Syncing

A major feature I find irritating in word processors is the lack of dictionary syncing between multiple machines. I have a laptop, desktop, and occasional use of other machines, and would really like to be able to take my dictionary with me. Whilst I can use my own git repository, or shared net spa

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31 December 2010 10:37, Kevin André wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote: > > > 1. It is arrogant to return a document in a format different to that > which > > was sent to you. (That's why email clients always reply in the same > format > > in which the origi

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31/12/10 13:23, RGB ES wrote: Ubuntu's (and openSUSE's and sabayon's and...) "OOo" is go-oo, not oracle's OOo. So that's why it says ORACLE on the OO splash screen then -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoun

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31 December 2010 11:35, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: > >> >> wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, >> > > Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is TOTALLY > ARROGANT? > If I send you an email in plain text and you reply in HT

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31/12/10 13:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are using some go-oo derivative, but oracle's OOo do not supp

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

Ubuntu's (and openSUSE's and sabayon's and...) "OOo" is go-oo, not oracle's OOo. 2010/12/31 Gordon Burgess-Parker : > On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: >> >> As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and >> 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX >> f

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31/12/10 13:17, RGB ES wrote: As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are using some go-oo derivative, but oracle's OOo do not support writing to those formats, not even the develo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010/12/31 Gordon Burgess-Parker : > And BTW, the latest Open Office ALSO supports writing to OOXML format... As someone already said, that's absolutely wrong: I have 3.3rc8 and 300m95 running here and none of them support writing to whateverX formats. Maybe you are using some go-oo derivative, but

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 30/12/10 17:27, Larry Gusaas wrote: I will not support or use LibreOffice until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file format. There is absolutely no need to write in this proprietary format. To do so is contrary to the principle of using ODF and open source formats

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Il 31/12/2010 11:32, M. Fioretti ha scritto: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:07:30 AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker > (gbpli...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> None of you get the point, do you. >> 1. It is arrogant to return a document in a format different to that >> which was sent to you. > > arrogant my foot

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31/12/10 09:30, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: FYI for those that aren't aware. Microsoft office 2010 supports ODF format for opening and saving documents now. So does 2007 SP2 as well. However in 2007 the opening of ods documents has deliberately broken formulaedon't know whether they've "

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Gallery -- toggle off/on

Hi Marc, some additional remarks to those by Regina (Thanks!). The reason for not having a "x"-button to close some of the window is, that the source code and the interaction concepts are very old. Just look at the "selection" decoration - looks quite dated ... In comparison, the task panes in Imp

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31/12/10 10:32, M. Fioretti wrote: wrong. Mine (mutt) doesn't for example, Then I would plonk you immediately. How do you not see that that is TOTALLY ARROGANT? If I send you an email in plain text and you reply in HTML, because YOU want to, that is complete rudeness and intolerance. --

[tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 140 (3843-3863)

Hello, I just want to inform you all that docx, pptx, xlsx, etc is not the same as the "ISO OOXML" which was saddly accepted as an "ISO standard". The currently used OOXML format is a completely proprietary XML based format. And the specification of the OOXML "ISO Standard" is so complex and long

Re: [tdf-discuss] Changing language interface

2010/12/24 Avraham Hanadari : > Dear Friends, > > I have downloaded the latest LibreOffice international version, but I have > been unable to discover how to change the English interface into > French.Would someone be kind enough to explain how I might do this? > > Thanks in advance, > > Avraham H

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:07:30 AM +, Gordon Burgess-Parker (gbpli...@gmail.com) wrote: > None of you get the point, do you. > 1. It is arrogant to return a document in a format different to that > which was sent to you. arrogant my foot. If somebody smokes in my face it is not arrogant to tell

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 11:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > 1. It is arrogant to return a document in a format different to that which > was sent to you. (That's why email clients always reply in the same format > in which the original message was received) I agree. And users will wonder why t

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

Þann fös 31.des 2010 01:28, skrifaði Wolf Halton: I have to use office2007 at work and I watch hundreds of core users (college students) struggle with my formatting requirements for homework assignments. Most of these are using the company-supplied computers, with office 2007, most of the time.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 30/12/10 20:41, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2010/12/30 2:19 PM Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: OOXML will spread anyway because MS Office 2007 and 2010 use this format by default. Nothing you can do about it I'm afraid Yes you can do something about it. Don't enable writing in that format.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 30/12/10 21:07, Carl Symons wrote: Any file format would still be accessible to read. If someone sends you a docx file, you will be able to open it. You can send a .doc (no x; no OOXML) file back to to them; they will be able to read it with their MS application. Two comments on that. OOXML d

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 30/12/10 20:23, RGB ES wrote: 2010/12/30 Gordon Burgess-Parker: OOXML will spread anyway because MS Office 2007 and 2010 use this format by default. Nothing you can do about it I'm afraid That means nothing. MSOffice will be able to read the previous formats for a while, I think... Tha

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

Sean White schreef: > Oracle who are in a bigger campaign of open-source destruction than MS is at the moment, I know some anti-Oracle sentiment can be expected here, but seriously... -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer -*- nl.openoffice.org -*- http://www.opentaal.org -*- -- Unsubscribe in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

On 31/12/10 07:07, Larry Gusaas wrote: You have it backward. If LibO writes in OOXML they are doing Microsofts bidiing. The world is slowly demanding open document formats. By supporting MS proprietary formats LibO is helping to perpetuate their hegemony. If LibreOffice were to write in OOXML

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

FYI for those that aren't aware. Microsoft office 2010 supports ODF format for opening and saving documents now. On 12/31/10 1:12 AM, BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Barbara Duprey We need to force MS to support ODF - as others have pointed out ODF is quickly becoming the wo

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

@Larry Gusaas During the last 12 months alot of of big businesses have changed over to Windows 7 and MSO 2007/2010. As most people dont care about the format they will just save it as docx. Most will not even know the difference because they will buy the software that their business has. LibreOf