Re: [IxDA Discuss] Video of Interaction08

2008-02-11 Thread Rich Rogan
This would be fantastic, as so many people woud've liked to go, but couldn't, (me being one), and really want to keep up on the findings. Thanks Dave -- Joseph Rich Rogan President UX/UI Inc. http://www.jrrogan.com *Come to IxDA

Re: [IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread Mark Canlas
Look and feel is shallow. In the context of software, look and feel refers to what skin widgets have. Programmers use it when they talk about Java vs native widgets. You can have one app and skin it different ways, changing its look and feel. To some extent, you could say the various themes of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread Angel Marquez
There is some good book refs on that site. Thanks *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/

Re: [IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread Sam Zaiss
I actually like JL's comment that you quote... I'm not entirely sure where the disagreement is. The author isn't saying that look and feel is equivalent to brand; rather, these are elements that can help communicate the brand message or story (I put the emphasis on help). I would suggest that

[IxDA Discuss] Designing a facebook application

2008-02-11 Thread Anthony Hempell
I'm doing IA and interaction design for a facebook application. http://developers.facebook.com/ is very developer-focused; I'm wondering if anyone knows of resources that are more about designing the user experience than the technical development angle? A good sample flow / map of some

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction08 - missing piece of the conversation

2008-02-11 Thread Marc Rettig
Thanks, Dan. I should be clear: didn't intend my note as a criticism of the conference program. It could hardly have been better. I appreciated the way it took a huge set of possible topics and brought focus to things we all care about. 'Twas yummy. I was reacting more to the flow of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction08 - missing piece of the conversation

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Saffer
On Feb 10, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Marc Rettig wrote: THE MISSING TOPIC It's this: we are a community supposedly driven by understanding of the people who are affected by our work (that's PC for our users), but we aren't talking about them very much. Now, this isn't some kind of attempt

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to transition from technical writer to interaction designer?

2008-02-11 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
but I don't find it as easy to show good interaction design in a portfolio context. Storytelling is a fantastic solution to this. Present the deliverables from a project in the context of a story, explaining how and why you arrive at each one, and what effect they had on the project. -r-

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Monday. Ugh!

2008-02-11 Thread Maria Cordell
Ditto here, too! Just walked back into my office, and I'm having to force myself to get back into the swing of things. :) Great weekend, great to see old friends and make several new connections! Now have lots (more) to think about, process, adapt, and adopt. Thanks to everyone for an amazing

[IxDA Discuss] Interaction 08

2008-02-11 Thread David Armano
Hi Everyone, Had a great time over the weekend. It was excellent getting to meet so many of you in person and the event itself was simply inspiring. Kudos to everyone who made it special. I’ve done a brief write-up on my blog summarizing how I felt about it. Looking forward to next year

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thanks to all at IxDA

2008-02-11 Thread Scott McDaniel
This was my first professional conference and it blew away any expectations I had for the event. Thank you to everyone. I found myself simultaneously thrilled and overwhelmed - I hate to admit my introvert tendencies won out in the midst of the crowds and a flood of information and excitement.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Working with Product Analysts/Manager

2008-02-11 Thread Rich Rogan
Note there's a nice responsibility break between designers and PM's which aides both parties, known as What and How: PM - get the What' should be done down - basis for general requirements Designer - get the How things should work done - UI/UX Note when requirements are specifically Usability

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote

2008-02-11 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Feb 10, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Alan Cooper wrote: [...] ROI measures efficiency and, as Peter Drucker points out, efficiency is no longer a very effective measurement of the success of a business. If the traditional view on ROI is a measure of efficiency, then we need to change that. I

[IxDA Discuss] Sources for Design Inspiration

2008-02-11 Thread Brandon E . B . Ward
Once you've settled in on a wireframe or layout, where do you go/ what do you do to seek inspiration when defining/designing the color space, palette, aesthetic, icons, (look feel :-P ) etc.? B *Come to IxDA Interaction08 |

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote

2008-02-11 Thread lukeisha carr
This is all very interesting. I have always been a part of the waterfall development methodology, where there is (ANALYSIS, DESIGN, development, QA, then production). In the analysis design phase, that was where interaction visual designs were created communicated. Overall consistency of the

[IxDA Discuss] Interaction08 + Crowdvine = Good

2008-02-11 Thread Bill DeRouchey
Crowdvine turned out to be an incredible tool for Interaction08. It served as a great pre-mingling before the conference to get the ball rolling, especially the want-to-meet feature. But it could be greatly improved with post-conference features. - Like others have stated, a Met (or Meeted)

[IxDA Discuss] Overall Web Development Process

2008-02-11 Thread Brian Hoffman
All, I'm glad to hear the IxDA conference went well. Hopefully I can attend next year and meet a few of you. For those of you involved with website creation and assuming you are part of a larger team that includes graphics artists, developers, etc., what overall process does your team or

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote

2008-02-11 Thread dave malouf
At the postmortem dinner for the conference on sunday night. Myself Greg Petroff when off on a debate about Agile being good or bad. I find it interesting that BOTH of our pre-eminent keynotes are both talking down agile, YET we as a UX community believe it is still valuable. Yikes! It screams to

[IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread mark schraad
There is an interesting editorial and follow up discussion regarding the term 'look and feel' - at the design observer (mostly a graph design blog). I have used the term many times when speaking to clients. To me it is everything about the site that is visual, except for the interactions.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sources for Design Inspiration

2008-02-11 Thread Jeffrey D. Gimzek
On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Brandon E.B.Ward wrote: Once you've settled in on a wireframe or layout, where do you go/ what do you do to seek inspiration when defining/designing the color space, palette, aesthetic, icons, (look feel :-P ) etc.? netdiver.net there-in lie a million links to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to transition from technical writer to interaction designer?

2008-02-11 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
I agree with you completely Robert. But I know, as somebody who has slowly moved into IxD from interface dev, that it's not always clear what is meant by a portfolio in the IxD context. As a graphic designer it's really easy to print and show your impact on that work, but I don't find it as easy

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to transition from technical writer to interaction designer?

2008-02-11 Thread W Evans
I think there is actually a gentle path from Technical Writer » Information Architect » IxD because I see it as a journey from structured content to structuring content (organization, flow), to flow and behavior (creating the dialogue between people and system, people and people, people and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sources for Design Inspiration

2008-02-11 Thread Angel Marquez
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Boolean AND OR in a graphical user interface

2008-02-11 Thread Mark Pawson
The most effective way is not to do it. We tested this in an Oil and Gas thick desktop app and concluded after many years that users may say they understand AND vs OR but they clearly do not. In one case we even parroted back a scenario asked for by geologists and engineeers in a usability test

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to transition from technical writer to interaction designer?

2008-02-11 Thread John Wood
Hi Martin, I made this tranistion, and feel it is a very natural one to make. I don't know how much advice I can offer, but I can describe the path I took and you can see if there's anything worthwhile in that. I started with a transition to business analyst from tech. pubs manager, which

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a facebook application

2008-02-11 Thread dawa riley
I am currently working on the IA for a Facebook application. It will be launching at the beginning of March. It is definitely a challenge to make it spread virally between users and whilst not invading their privacy or being perceived as spam. The FB platform itself has many default

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a facebook application

2008-02-11 Thread Anthony Hempell
Well suffice it to say that I'm not designing something that will be asking users to become a zombie OR a pirate. All FB applications allow you to control messaging. I turn off all emails. On 11-Feb-08, at 3:06 PM, Jeffrey D. Gimzek wrote: On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Anthony Hempell

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sources for Design Inspiration

2008-02-11 Thread Dan Saffer
How about my presentation New Sources of Inspiration for Interaction Designers? :) http://www.slideshare.net/dansaffer/new-sources-of-inspiration-for-interaction-designers/ Dan *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah*

[IxDA Discuss] Themes and big ideas from Savannah

2008-02-11 Thread Robert Barlow-Busch
For the benefit of those who couldn't attend Interaction08, and to continue the discussion for those who could, I'm curious to hear what big ideas, themes, or recurring topics you observed and that remain in your thoughts. Here's one from me. *Drama, theatre, and film.* These disciplines are

[IxDA Discuss] Thanks to all at IxDA

2008-02-11 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
I just wanted to thank everyone for coming to the IxDA conference. I wanted to thank all the extremely talented speakers, those who tirelessly organized and put on this conference, and all the attendees who showed up and made this one of the best conferences I've ever been to. It

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to transition from technical writer to interaction designer?

2008-02-11 Thread Jim Leftwich
Great topic, Martin. From the early 1980s on, I've known a few really great Interaction Designers that had been, and still were, Technical Writers. I think Robert brings up one of the reasons writers can make great Interaction Designers - their storytelling and narrative skills. I've also met

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction08 - missing piece of the conversation

2008-02-11 Thread Stew Dean
On 10/02/2008, Marc Rettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [On Interaction08] THE MISSING TOPIC It's this: we are a community supposedly driven by understanding of the people who are affected by our work (that's PC for our users), but we aren't talking about them very much. Hi Marc, I'm not there

[IxDA Discuss] [Event] NYC IxDA: The Interaction in Interactive TV by David Lipkin, Feb 21

2008-02-11 Thread liya zheng
Hi Everyone! What a show Dan, Dave and team put on for us last week. Cheers to them. If you missed the conference and your friends are telling you how awesome it was to rub it in your face, don't be too sad. Just because the conference is over, it doesn't mean that we stop working for you! Come

Re: [IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread lukeisha carr
Mark, I must disagree with your comment regarding ... only Java people. I learned of the term well before I became a Java person. In fact it wasn't even an OOP language, but TCL, HTML, CSS. In fact, the development team didn't make it up at all. We learned it from the Business Analyst who

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thanks to all at IxDA

2008-02-11 Thread Joshua Seiden
Hey Scott-- That sounds like a great conference session. Seriously. Maybe next year we can organize a meeting of Moody Loners! But what if no-one shows up :-) JS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread Johan Sjöstrand
I highly recommend this presentation by Stephen P Anderson. http://www.slideshare.net/stephenpa/eye-candy-is-a-critical-business-requirement On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:25 PM, mark schraad wrote: There is an interesting editorial and follow up discussion regarding the term 'look and feel' - at

Re: [IxDA Discuss] look and feel

2008-02-11 Thread W Evans
From the post: Brands are about ideas not just logos, 'look and feel' refers to the brand's supporting graphic elements, typography, colour palette, material palette, photographic style etc, these are elements that can help communicate the brand message or story. Yeah - I disagree. I don't think

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a facebook application

2008-02-11 Thread Jeffrey D. Gimzek
On Feb 11, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Anthony Hempell wrote: I'm doing IA and interaction design for a facebook application. http://developers.facebook.com/ is very developer-focused; I'm wondering if anyone knows of resources that are more about designing the user experience than the technical

[IxDA Discuss] Interview with Gong Szeto of OptionsHouse

2008-02-11 Thread alex kirtland
I just posted an interesting email interview with Gong Szeto of OptionsHouse. He talks about designing a retail options trading site, and the importance of good design as a differentiator. If you're interested you can read it here: http://www.usablemarkets.com/?p=223 ~alex kirtland

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Working with Product Analysts/Manager

2008-02-11 Thread Christine Boese
I'll give a second to that. Jon's whole book is just outstanding. It's also so well-written, it's the kind of book you'd enjoy curling up with on a blustery night! Chris On Feb 11, 2008 9:39 AM, W Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karen - I would recommend reading the article in Jon Kolko's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interaction08 + Crowdvine = Good

2008-02-11 Thread Eduardo Ortiz
I agree with your statements, (and now will proceed to go on a wild tangent - sorry) but I think that Crowdvine whether they intended for this to happen or not generates a new type of community post-conference, and that is the one where we interact without the need for an interface (or middle man

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote

2008-02-11 Thread J. Ambrose Little
Hi Lukeisha, I'd suggest (as a software architect on an agile team that incorporates UX process) that you don't need waterfall to build good UX. In fact, one of the core aspects of UX--delivering what the users need--can be better assured through agile process (IMO). You need to plug the UX

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote

2008-02-11 Thread Jeff White
Out of curiosity, have you or Greg ever practiced agile? Not trying to be a pain, but really would like to hear what your experience was if so. Also, one of the sponsors of Interaction08, Autodesk, has been designing award winning user experiences in a very complex product space with agile for

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Monday. Ugh!

2008-02-11 Thread W Evans
Ditto! I arrived back in Boston last night (quite a few IxDers on the leg from Savannah to Charlotte) - 15 degrees, windy, really cold- *NOT *as nice as the amazing weather, camaraderie, passion, excitement and energy I got from meeting so many great people. Special thanks to Dave and all the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sources for Design Inspiration

2008-02-11 Thread Matthew Stephens
I'm not sure if other people do this, but other than the web galleries like http://bestwebgallery.com/, I tend to look at www.templatemonster.com They have a ton of samples in all different types of categories. -Matthew Stephens Co-Founder, deviantART.com www.codebymatt.com

[IxDA Discuss] thoughts on interaction08, applying knowledge

2008-02-11 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
hi everybody, this has been an amazing weekend. i'd just like to thank all the organizers, the speakers, and the other attendees that i met while in savannah, i don't think i've ever learned so much in two days. one thing i've been thinking about since the end of the conference yesterday is

[IxDA Discuss] Monday. Ugh!

2008-02-11 Thread Kim Bieler
Am I the only one who's finding this Monday particularly painful? Not to mention it was 16 degrees this morning. B! I feel like I need to spend a week on a mountaintop meditating on all the things I learned over the weekend. And following up with all the great people I met. And reading

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Working with Product Analysts/Manager

2008-02-11 Thread W Evans
Karen - I would recommend reading the article in Jon Kolko's book Thoughts On Interaction Design, by an interaction designer named Ellen Beldner called Getting Design Done, in which she deals with just that issue of how to work effectively with PMs - especially when they want to own everything in

Re: [IxDA Discuss] How to transition from technical writer to interaction designer?

2008-02-11 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
I am a technical writer, and I want to be an interaction designer. How do I get there from here? At my last in-house position, the Documentation team and the UX team shared a suite. And there was one guy who would have made an excellent IxD. Making him part of my team would have been as

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Monday. Ugh!

2008-02-11 Thread Matthew Nish-Lapidus
same here.. just stepped in my front door. the weather here is cold and snowy.. and after spending a weekend listening to and talking about really exciting things with great people i have to now go back to reality. makes me wish i was a student again... :) On Feb 11, 2008 9:46 AM, W Evans

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Interview with Gong Szeto of OptionsHouse

2008-02-11 Thread Gloria Petron
Interesting interview, Alex! Thank you for posting it. *Come to IxDA Interaction08 | Savannah* February 8-10, 2008 in Savannah, GA, USA Register today: http://interaction08.ixda.org/