Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design at Apple

2008-03-13 Thread Lada Gorlenko
I might be in a particularly cranky mood today, but I don't get it: - Pickled ice cream is worth trying (and is worth making) if you ever want to innovate and come up with a new ice-cream flavor. Plain vanilla will still be the biggest hit because it goes with everything, but hey -- how DO you

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design at Apple

2008-03-13 Thread Jack Moffett
On Mar 13, 2008, at 2:03 AM, Lada Gorlenko wrote: Please. Forget it's Apple and substitute the company name for something less of a fashion icon -- would you even notice it? Lada, Do you typically have the opportunity to spend several months working on your second round of concepts

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Table Row Interactions and .ico files

2008-03-13 Thread Rony Philip
The Google approach... http://specials.rediff.com/money/2008/mar/11google1.htm Cheers Rony Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe

[IxDA Discuss] [Event] IxDA NYC: 3/26, Voice Interaction Design

2008-03-13 Thread Bruce Esrig
TOPIC: Talking to a Machine by Phillip Hunter, VP of application design and development at SpeechCycle WHEN: Wednesday, March 26th, 6:30 - 8:00 p.m. WHERE: In lower Manhattan; full details provided on RSVP RSVP: Send e-mail to nyc-rsvp (at) ixda (dot) org. In the subject line, please include

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design at Apple

2008-03-13 Thread Lada Gorlenko
Do you typically have the opportunity to spend several months working on your second round of concepts before settling on one? Yes, and I reckon that many big companies would have at least several weeks -- if not several months -- of design cycle on most major projects. Of course, there are

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design at Apple

2008-03-13 Thread David Malouf
Myabe, I'm just running on endorphines and feelin' GREAT, but in my pretty long career THIS has NEVER happened. Innie, outtie, independent or otherwise. Not any single piece, but the total vision. 10 comps Full pixel perfect 2 meetings PER WEEK (1 pie in sky; 1 planning for the real world)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design at Apple

2008-03-13 Thread mark schraad
On Mar 13, 2008, at 2:03 AM, Lada Gorlenko wrote: I might be in a particularly cranky mood today, but I don't get it: - Pickled ice cream is worth trying (and is worth making) if you ever want to innovate and come up with a new ice-cream flavor. Plain vanilla will still be the biggest

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Deliverables and Developers

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Moore
Good point on keeping the document up to date as development is ongoing. This is something I struggle with doing consistently. You know the drill, a developer comes up and asks about what the app should do in a particular corner case, or can't implement something exactly as designed, and you talk

[IxDA Discuss] An Idea about Drawing Wireframes

2008-03-13 Thread Oleg Krupnov
All drawing and diagramming tools that we use to create wireframes are based on shapes or widgets. You drag a widget from a palette and drop it onto the page, then set its position and size with mouse. The operation is easier if the editor supports snapping to the grid and guides. I wonder

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Log in fields on index page

2008-03-13 Thread Micah Freedman
I think it depends on how much of a requirement logging in is to using the site. Gmail wouldn't make sense without a login right up front. But on a shopping site, you want to devote more space to the products, and delay the requirement to login or create an account as long as possible. High

Re: [IxDA Discuss] argument for designing 1024px wide

2008-03-13 Thread timoni grone
That is an awkward position. It sounds like you have a lot of excellent solutions--I'd also add that, if you find 1024px+ is indeed an overestimate, you can rest safely in knowing that the fold is much less of an priority ( http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/blasting-the-myth-of,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] best cites to get /host UI and UX talent

2008-03-13 Thread timoni grone
My experience has shown that certain cities will resonate better to the design community. I'd very much like to hear this groups opinions as to the options listed below. Yes, no, maybe's and Good Luck, Sport! Cupertino,Ca Houston, Tx Corvallis, Or Ft Collins, Co I live in San Francisco,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Browser safe zone?

2008-03-13 Thread Jeffrey D. Gimzek
Hi Rick, It's pretty arbitrary, as the amount of toolbars and addons have gotten kind of ridiculous lately Most people, myself included, design for 1024x768 by using 1000x550 as the safe zone - this is closest to IE with one extra toolbar (say, google toolbar) on a 1024x768 PC laptop.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Browser safe zone?

2008-03-13 Thread David Kegel
Cameron Moll has a great one that I have stuck to using a 960 grid. http://cameronmoll.com/archives/2006/12/gridding_the_960/ Also a great Mac utility is Xscope, which shows you what your work looks like in almost all browsers including iPhone Safari. http://iconfactory.com/software/xscope/ .

Re: [IxDA Discuss] An Idea about Drawing Wireframes

2008-03-13 Thread John Gibbard
I'd like to hear your comments. Is it going to speed up wireframing? What are the other pro and cons of this approach? Oleg, I liked the idea. Many of the sites I've worked on have been template driven and this can feel a bit like Tetris at times*, trying to get new ideas to fit into

[IxDA Discuss] ANN: Seattle IxDA meeting 3/20

2008-03-13 Thread Andrew Otwell
You're invited to the first meeting of the new IxDA Seattle chapter! This will be mostly to meet other IxDs in Seattle, and to talk about what kinds of IxD future events you'd like to attend. Save the date: What: Meet your fellow Seattle Interaction Designers! When: *Thursday March 20th, 7pm -

Re: [IxDA Discuss] An Idea about Drawing Wireframes

2008-03-13 Thread Richard Howard
This is an interesting approach and holds some promise, I think. It is similar to how I use gridded paper to establish initial layout. To be useful for my apps it would need to have more formatting options for the content, like transparency in order to create invisible alignment regions, and

[IxDA Discuss] closed captioning

2008-03-13 Thread Ryon Brown
Thanks for all the really great threads. They help more than you know! My question: I am working on a long-term project that involves creating a series of SCORM (shareable content object reference model) and 508 compliant online training pieces for a government customer. Our latest

Re: [IxDA Discuss] argument for designing 1024px wide

2008-03-13 Thread Kevin .
Hmm... tough situation. How much content do they want above the fold? It sounds like too much, regardless -- like Steve Krug says, Omit needless words. Get rid of all that Welcome to BS, verbose instructions and the like. After you've cut things down, do it again. It's a fact that users just don't

Re: [IxDA Discuss] An Idea about Drawing Wireframes

2008-03-13 Thread Todd Moy
Oleg, this is intriguing and I have a few questions: 1. Do you see content being just labeled boxes or would they contain more rich UI controls? For example, in your movie service example on AuthorJet, would Global Navigation exist as just Global Navigation--or would someone be able to drop a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who would you like to see in a Debate?

2008-03-13 Thread Dan Saffer
On Mar 12, 2008, at 7:14 AM, W Evans wrote: Me versus Dan Saffer on why Silicone Valley is the last place a good IXD would want to move to and work. Silicone Valley? Now THAT is a place I wouldn't mind working. ;) Seriously, I don't work in SILICON Valley (I'm in SF and there is a huge

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design at Apple

2008-03-13 Thread Troy Gardner
I work in a small startup and have worked in agencies in the past. It strikes me how expensive and luxurious the process at Apple is. Typically the design teams I'm around are tasked with coordinating a dozen deliverables being yanked like a chewtoy from one to another, on short timelines, and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Design Deliverables and Developers

2008-03-13 Thread Celeste 'seele' Paul
On Thursday 13 March 2008 09:24:12 Kevin Doyle wrote: Hi Celeste, Are you familiar with Scrum or Agile project management? When developers are working on a project within an Agile/Scrum project, they are required to work with everyone working in the same room. Dev teams are usually very

[IxDA Discuss] [Job] User Experience Research Lead, mountain view, ca, Microsoft, Full Time

2008-03-13 Thread Erez Kikin Gil
:: User Experience Research Lead for Microsoft Silicon Valley Web Communications team :: Our Silicon Valley User Experience team is seeking an experienced, talented, and creative research lead who is excited about joining one of Microsoft's most truly impactful and integrated user experience

[IxDA Discuss] [Job] User Experience Manager, mountain view, ca, Microsoft, Full Time

2008-03-13 Thread Erez Kikin Gil
:: User Experience Manager for Microsoft Silicon Valley Web Communications team :: Our Silicon Valley User Experience team is seeking a strategic, talented, and creative user experience manager who is excited about joining one of Microsoft's most truly impactful and integrated user experience

[IxDA Discuss] [Job] User Experience Product Designer, mountain view, ca, Microsoft, Full Time

2008-03-13 Thread Erez Kikin Gil
:: User Experience Product Designer for Microsoft Silicon Valley Web Communications team :: Come join one of the most exciting user experience teams at Microsoft - a team whose day-to-day challenges include shaping the next generation of Windows Live Hotmail, Contacts, Calendar, Web IM,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who would you like to see in a Debate?

2008-03-13 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
Jason Fried vs. Me! To have a real debate with Fried that the audience would buy, you'd have to first substantiate a comparable level of success, else he'd crush you. Can you do that? I think 37Signals' notions of designing for self are wrong despite. Starting with yourself has led to what I

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who would you like to see in a Debate?

2008-03-13 Thread David Malouf
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Robert Hoekman, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Fried vs. Me! To have a real debate with Fried that the audience would buy, you'd have to first substantiate a comparable level of success, else he'd crush you. Can you do that? Yes, the success we have

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who would you like to see in a Debate?

2008-03-13 Thread Robert Hoekman, Jr.
Basecamp is hardly a disaster of design—it has a higher satisfaction rating than any app I've ever heard about. Maybe you're just more comfortable with something else. Really? I find that almost absurd. Hey—they're not my ratings. :) The 37signals customers have spoken. You are clearly

Re: [IxDA Discuss] best cites to get /host UI and UX talent

2008-03-13 Thread amy hillman
As far as Corvallis, OR goes... you're about 1.5 hrs commute south of Portland. As Timoni mentioned re: Cupertino/SF-- you might get a better response from the local UI/UX talent pool if you located in Portland. That said, Corvallis has a high education rate per capita and a solid engineering

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Browser safe zone?

2008-03-13 Thread Brandon E.B. Ward
Umm ... I've got xScope (love it) but I don't think it previews your work in all browsers. Could you be thinking of a different util? If not - please show me how this is done in xScope. B On 3/13/08 1:06 AM, David Kegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also a great Mac utility is Xscope, which shows

Re: [IxDA Discuss] An Idea about Drawing Wireframes

2008-03-13 Thread chutch15
You can do this with MS Expression Blend. You can lay out the widgets (rectangles) inside a grid and resize them at will. From there, you can actually build out the design for use by developers (XAML). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new

Re: [IxDA Discuss] An Idea about Drawing Wireframes

2008-03-13 Thread lee
Sounds great, I tried to open it but just got an error, is it just of the mac? I am running xp. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=27037

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Zooming in for more detail

2008-03-13 Thread Mac McBurney
Not fancy like iPhone and OS X, and not exactly zooming, but would this technique be a good alternative way to explore your data? http://simile.mit.edu/timeline Instead of requiring users to choose between two views (zoomed out or in), this shows multiple (not just two) zoom levels

[IxDA Discuss] Office 2007 Interface Prototypes

2008-03-13 Thread Peter Knocke
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080308/office-2007-interface-prototypes/ Some of you guys might be there right now, but for us who aren't, here are some interesting images of some of the development of Office 07. Wow, within two days, we get to look slightly into both microsoft's and apple's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA London meet-up, more meetings - and money!

2008-03-13 Thread Joshua Seiden
[I'm posting this message for Nico Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED], who is having trouble posting to the list. At 16:00 + 4/3/08, Alexander Livingstone wrote: We also spoke about notification of IxD related events such as this evening's 'This happened...'. Everyone is going to take responsibility

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Who would you like to see in a Debate?

2008-03-13 Thread David Malouf
No, MS project is not the right tool either. it is Gant Chart driven and not people driven. I'm looking for a task = to milestone relationship like MS Project. I don't understand the mental model that basecamp works under. A milestone is an end of a collection of tasks, maybe but not all tasks

Re: [IxDA Discuss] closed captioning

2008-03-13 Thread Janna Cameron
I am guessing that people are arguing against captioning because of the extra cognitive load that the text would create.. Could concerns be quelled by including a CC button in the flash presentation - so this is optional? (like at the site below) http://www.peepandthebigwideworld.com/videos/