BTW I just discovered the California Schools Guide on the new LA Times
site in the Local section. This may have been on the previous site;
does anyone know who produced it?
http://projects.latimes.com/schools/
http://projects.latimes.com/schools/school/foothill-ranch/foothill-ranch-elementary/
El
Hi Steven,
I work in the online news industry and was interested in your
questions but never got round to giving some opinion back.
Someone else shared a link with me of this same topic over at
unmatchedstyle - a good read and probably of interest if you have not
already come across it,
http://ww
Seems to me that the "rule" of making links distinctive is far more
important if they're being used as Intriguing Branches within a larger body
of text.
You can use Command Areas (as they do) to offset groups of links and the Tag
Cloud is another case like this. Titles, especially in the context o
In general, I'm very much on the side of having links either
underlined or a distinct color. "Clean design" should never trump
usability. Even if it takes a millisecond to figure out what's a
link and what isn't, that's too long.
However, I do think their homepage works. It really is almost
entir
to grasp. Plus i believe users now understand web pages well and
definitely know which text/content to be clickable. The mouse pointer simply
follows the eye nowadays, doesn't it?
--- On Mon, 17/8/09, Willl Hacker wrote:
From: Willl Hacker
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Latimes.com Red
You would hope a company as large as Tribune Co. would have performed
user testing on the site before it launched the new look, so they may
be safe in this design. I think they are.
While it is not obvious at first glance what is a link, the site to
me is very learnable and memorable. What I expe
On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:33 PM, Diana Wynne wrote:
A side note that I recently discovered the learn more ? balloon on
the NYTimes website.
Here's the thing that so many people don't understand about
"usability" - it's a sliding scale. Interactions can be intuitive or
immediately obvious, p
I think this is a big point.
On Aug 16, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Diana Wynne wrote:
Rollovers are subtle but discoverable.
Not that they're subtle and not that one can find them - no, the big
point is that they're 'discoverable'.
That word is important, because I think Diana hit on something: th
I love it. Black text is so much more legible than all that other noise.
It's a newspaper, not an e-commerce site: the point is to read the
articles, not to be distractedly clicking links mid sentence like
Wikipedia. Rollovers are subtle but discoverable.
Not so sure about the red italics for uni
Andrei,
I have to disagree. Your point can be taken on the home page, but
what about every other page of the site? That's where I think it's
even more problematic. When you go to an interior page they carry the
same design through, and then the percentage of non-linked body copy
to other links is
echoing Neil Cadsawanwould love to know about LAT's user research
and testing efforts!
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W
A particular area I find awkward is the traffic page. Was it like this
before the redesign? The size of the page's primary content prevents
it from fitting "above the fold" -- you have to scroll to see the
bottom of the iFrame, and even then you still have to scroll on the
iFrame to see all of what
I have to agree with Andrei on this one. The home page looks nice and
clean and readable. It also happens to be almost all links. If you
filter into an actual article you will see that the links are
actually called out in a different color. Take this article for
example:
http://www.latimes.com/busi
On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:13 AM, William Hudson wrote:
I agree that the current design looks much more print
based (being primarily black!), but the inability for users to easily
spot links slightly worries me.
More than 90% of the content on the home page is a link. What's the
point of adding
While we all can give our collective opinions on this redesign, what
I'd like to know is if they did any testing on their design before
it went live. Maybe they discovered that their users didn't have
any issues with no colors or underlines on links. Maybe they didn't
do any testing and will now
nal Message-
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> Steven Johnson
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> To: disc...@ixda.org
> Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Latimes.com Redesign - No Link Colors
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It's a little disconcerting at first, but by now I know where the
links will be in a news site, so I naturally mouse to the appropriate
spots, and the underlines immediately come into view to confirm my
choices. It's an interesting concept. Keeps the news looking like a
newspaper.
. . . . . . . .
I can't distinguish link text from static text unless I painstakingly
mouse over the whole page. What were they thinking!?
- Make out website look like a news paper, because we're a news
paper company.
- News papers don't have hyperlinks.
- Don't show hyperlinks on our website.
I think someone
The new L.A. Times web redesign launched last night.
IA-wise, it's basically the same site, but the look-and-feel more
strongly embraces the print idiom (e.g., Georgia font).
I feel like the big news is that they've dropped link colors from
headlines, nav, etc.
Latimes.com is my alma mater (1999
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