Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-26 Thread Brian Mila
I just came across this today on konigi.com.thought it was relevant to this discussion. Its an indicator on the side of the page next to the scrollbar, that shows the relative size of a blog post compared to the comments it generates. You can see it in action here:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-26 Thread paul bryan
The perpetual scroll example above reminds me of the sequential access paradigm of an audio cassette. You can't get to the middle until you've scrolled through each section. I think the dynamically built long pages would be easier to use if they loaded with a visual representation of the whole

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-26 Thread Chad Mortensen
Pros vs. Cons for me so far coming from a commerce point of view. A pro for me is helping the browsing user quickly and easily continue on their browsing path with the least amount of distraction possible. If a user happens upon the end of a page and is then shown 10 more results without having

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-24 Thread Jared Spool
On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Brian Mila wrote: Does anyone remember when dropdown menus were new, and they were all kludgy and awkward? Are dropdown menus not kludgy and awkward now? Did I miss them memo? :) I agree that inifinite scroll, implemented well, has a lot of potential. I think

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-23 Thread ivo
If the v-scrollbar lies and showing different length every time I visit, it's annoying and confusing. Also I'd have this nervous feeling of never being able to reach the bottom of the page. I agree in that I find it very annoying uncomfortable, makes it hard for me to scan ahead in a page

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-23 Thread Kaleem
The first time I saw saw infinite scroll implemented on a large scale was in a July 2006 preview when Microsoft's Phil Holden, director of Windows Live, previewed the September 2006 launch of a whole suite of Windows Live tools as Microsoft transitioned from MSN. Windows Live Image Search was

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-23 Thread Brian Mila
I wonder if you could address some of the I feel lost problems by displaying tick marks in or near the scrollbar at every point that the user stops scrolling. So if you see one full page, then scroll down, the size and position of the scrollbar thumb may change, but you could add a permanent tick

[IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-21 Thread Chad Mortensen
I've been noticing more and more Ajax powered pages where at the end of the normal page end a call is made to fetch more content and is added to the bottom of the page, in essence making the page longer on the fly. A good example of this is on http://www.haystack.com Twitter and Facebook do

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-21 Thread Joe Lanman
It's an odd one, and feels like it fits browsing better than search. For instance, I love it on www.flickriver.com, where I can browse endlessly through photos, but I wouldn't like it as default Google behaviour. I'm not quite sure why that is.. I can think of two possibilities: 1) It feels

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-21 Thread Ariel Leroux
I've only once seen this done where it just wasn't that great, and it wasn't the idea - it was... whatever the heck was done in the backend because it took too long to pull the information across as you scrolled. Another example to add to the list of this which I very much like, would be the new

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-21 Thread calvin
Virtual scrollbar is a visual cue of how long the page is going to be. It is one of the native visual language for most of the computer users nowadays. In my own experience, during the first half second when opening a new page, I would quickly glance at the right side of the page for the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Perpetual Scrolling Web Pages

2009-10-21 Thread Joanna Pieroz . ek
The perpetual scrolling behaviour can be achieved on many websites (including Google) with this Firefox add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4925 . Considering it's quite popular there seem to people who enjoy this kind of behaviour across all kinds of different websites.