Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-03 Thread ymilner
Just one request to the OP: please change the subject of this thread to reflect the current problem status :) -- ymilner ymilner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1370 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-02 Thread amcluesent
I was able to get multiple receivers working properly after ensuring all receivers and the PC running SqueezeCenter were on the same subnet. IMHO a note of apology to the Slimdevices team would be appropriate, after claiming their product set-up was 'horrific' and that you 'imagine the average

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Good Point - perhaps you could change the thread title to horrific experience caused by self-inflicted injury to my network...or something like that :o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU -

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread doggieflyer
Good news! I was able to get multiple receivers working properly after ensuring all receivers and the PC running SqueezeCenter were on the same subnet. Thanks to everyone for your kind help. -- doggieflyer doggieflyer's

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread Phil Leigh
doggieflyer;316345 Wrote: Good news! I was able to get multiple receivers working properly after ensuring all receivers and the PC running SqueezeCenter were on the same subnet. Thanks to everyone for your kind help. Hurray - another success story. Good news. Another one for the How to

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread maggior
doggieflyer;316077 Wrote: Good info everyone. Fortunately I do understand all you're saying. Putting on my generic user hat, Logitech needs to simplify network handling because most users won't know DHCP from ABC. I'd have no clue that I was running two DHCP servers if I didn't have a

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread JJZolx
maggior;316415 Wrote: I have a DSL modem connected to a Linksys wireless router. I have a Verizon DSL gateway (DSL modem, router, and wireless access point all rolled into one) that they sent me. I needed a hub to expand my connections and decided to see if I could configure the Verizon

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread chill
JJZolx;316429 Wrote: If you just needed additional network ports you should have added a network switch, not a router. Quite true, but if you need a switch but have a spare router sitting in the loft, why not use its built in switch. I had exactly this situation - I needed a switch to make

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread maggior
JJZolx;316429 Wrote: If you just needed additional network ports you should have added a network switch, not a router. Yes, you are right. However, as Chill pointed out, you can use a router in a pinch - as long as you configure it correctly. It was sitting around collecting dust so I

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread JJZolx
maggior;316476 Wrote: Yes, you are right. However, as Chill pointed out, you can use a router in a pinch - as long as you configure it correctly. It was sitting around collecting dust so I figured I'd put it to some good use. This was a temporary arrangement as well as a learning

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-07-01 Thread Pat Farrell
JJZolx wrote: It's easy to screw up something that would otherwise be extemely simple with the right (and less expensive) equipment. To be clear, I think what Jim is trying to say is: Sometimes fancy equipment can make an easy job hard. Many times, a dumb switch or even a simple hub is a

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread finnbrodersen
doggieflyer;315933 Wrote: #2 Why is the product so stubborn about using wireless when an Ethernet cable is attached? Even the controller wording tells you to get within reach of a wireless network when an ethernet connection attempt fails. Why on some setup attempts do I not get the option

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread amcluesent
I have a D-Link broadband router to which all the cables are wired...The Squeezebox system gave me many fits without a wireless router so I went and bought a new wireless router Have you ensured that only one of the routers is a live DHCP server and that the devices aren't otherwise in conflict?

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread egd
doggieflyer;315933 Wrote: I've spent 14 hours over the last two days trying to get this system to work. I can't begin to explain the amount of inconsistent behavior I've experienced.What you've described in your post is more or less identical to the behaviour I've been experiencing with my

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread James_B
egd;315991 Wrote: What you've described in your post is more or less identical to the behaviour I've been experiencing with my Controller and Receiver, wired and/ or unwired. I don't have any answers, but I share your frustration - and have shelved the Duet hoping that in around 6 months

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread doggieflyer
Thanks for all the responses and ideas. One that a couple of you hit on I will definitely try. The wired and wireless routers I think both are providing DHCP. I can tell because the IP range on the wired is 192.168.0.x while those connecting to the wireless show 192.168.2.x. I will try to

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
doggieflyer;316039 Wrote: Thanks for all the responses and ideas. One that a couple of you hit on I will definitely try. The wired and wireless routers I think both are providing DHCP. I can tell because the IP range on the wired is 192.168.0.x while those connecting to the wireless

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Bill Burns
Phil Leigh wrote: oh - I think you only want one device handing out DHCP on your network...and you want everything on the same subnet (well at least you need to guarantee that your SC server, router and duet are all on the same subnet) Other than that it's the default setting on most network

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: oh - I think you only want one device handing out DHCP on your network...and you want everything on the same subnet (well at least you need to guarantee that your SC server, router and duet are all on the same subnet) I'll be stronger than Phil. You really *must* have only

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
ftlight;316047 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: oh - I think you only want one device handing out DHCP on your network...and you want everything on the same subnet (well at least you need to guarantee that your SC server, router and duet are all on the same subnet) Other than that it's

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread andynormancx
Phil Leigh;316044 Wrote: you need to guarantee that your SC server, router and duet are all on the same subnet Before someone reads that and takes it as gospel, you don't _need_ to have SBC + SBR + SC all on the same subnet, it just makes things easier if they are. -- andynormancx Yes, it

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Bill Burns
Phil Leigh wrote: ftlight;316047 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: oh - I think you only want one device handing out DHCP on your network...and you want everything on the same subnet (well at least you need to guarantee that your SC server, router and duet are all on the same subnet) Other than

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Pat Farrell
andynormancx wrote: Pat Wrote: you*must* be on the same subnet. Before someone reads that and takes it as gospel, you don't _need_ to have SBC + SBR + SC all on the same subnet, it just makes things easier if they are. OK, I'll let your weakening hold, I'll just say it If you don't have

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread andynormancx
pfarrell;316060 Wrote: it sometimes becomes impossible for mortals to make work. Thankfully most mortals aren't going to have more than one subnet ;-) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM !

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
andynormancx;316054 Wrote: Before someone reads that and takes it as gospel, you don't _need_ to have SBC + SBR + SC all on the same subnet, it just makes things easier if they are. Andy - I know it is not mandatory...I'm just trying to simplify things for a few people. When do you REALLY

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread doggieflyer
Good info everyone. Fortunately I do understand all you're saying. Putting on my generic user hat, Logitech needs to simplify network handling because most users won't know DHCP from ABC. I'd have no clue that I was running two DHCP servers if I didn't have a bit of networking experience in

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread andynormancx
doggieflyer;316077 Wrote: Putting on my generic user hat, Logitech needs to simplify network handling because most users won't know DHCP from ABC. I'd have no clue that I was running two DHCP servers if I didn't have a bit of networking experience in my day job. I imagine my setup is

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread doggieflyer
Keep in mind I'm trying to create an all-wired network. All the squeezeboxes are wired to the same Ethernet router. Some of the receivers insist on connecting via wireless even though I wish them not to. I've unplugged the wireless outright and then the controller fails to connect to the

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread andynormancx
doggieflyer;316091 Wrote: Keep in mind I'm trying to create an all-wired network. All the squeezeboxes are wired to the same Ethernet router. Some of the receivers insist on connecting via wireless even though I wish them not to. I've unplugged the wireless outright and then the

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread amcluesent
For a 'senior software engineer with networking experience' you don't seem to have much of an engineering approach to problem solving. Just an observation. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile:

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread doggieflyer
Amcluesent, your response is just negative and not useful. It's easy to judge when things are working well for you but my experience has been extremely painful. If you saw the thought process going into all the troubleshooting I've done, you would understand. I didn't come on to the forum and

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
doggieflyer;316098 Wrote: Amcluesent, your response is just negative and not useful. It's easy to judge when things are working well for you but my experience has been extremely painful. If you saw the thought process going into all the troubleshooting I've done, you would understand. I

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread doggieflyer
Not for you Phil. Someone posted a nasty response after yours but it looks like a forum admin deleted it. -- doggieflyer doggieflyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18462 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
doggieflyer;316101 Wrote: Not for you Phil. Someone posted a nasty response after yours but it looks like a forum admin deleted it. Ah...OK. Sorry. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU -

[slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-29 Thread doggieflyer
I've spent 14 hours over the last two days trying to get this system to work. I can't begin to explain the amount of inconsistent behavior I've experienced. I'm going to describe the latest steps I documented over the last hour and really appreciate any constructive advice. I've just built a

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-29 Thread EnochLight
Wow - your experience is definitely not a common one or the entire forum would be lit up with posts similar to yours. I would highly recommend actually *calling* tech support so they can get your sorted. BTW, no Internet connection is needed if you are running SqueezeCenter on an always on

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-29 Thread doggieflyer
Thanks for the response. I'll definitely give the support team a try on Monday. I persevered on my own since they were unavailable on the weekend. I also plan to bring the system in on Monday to a friend's place that has a connection to perform the controller upgrade. I've seen a message on

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-29 Thread EnochLight
Great to hear you've had some luck. I was going to recommend not giving up, as the SqueezeCenter/Duet/Squeezebox product is a superb piece of kit. I've been an owner for a few years now and can't imagine (music) life without it. I know I've updated my Controller/Duet firmware a coupe of times

Re: [slim] Horrific setup experience - need help

2008-06-29 Thread Pat Farrell
doggieflyer wrote: I'm a senior software engineer with networking experience. I've spent 14 hours with this system. I can't imagine the average consumer not returning this product immediately. What's providing DHCP on your network? Are all the devices, SqueezeCenter PC, Receivers, and