Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-12 Thread seanadams
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Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-12 Thread Mark Lanctot
haunyack;268225 Wrote: Mark, You are correct sir. I have been uncharacteristically grumpy as of late. My recent rants have been off the mark. (no pun) Trouble is, when I get mad and kick the dog...he kicks back. I'll try to be a bit more involved in the process going forward and

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread ceejay
jsprag;267855 Wrote: Unless I'm missing something in the settings page, this requires me to ssh to my headless server, open up the file in a text editor, make the changes, and then re-start Squeezecenter. Please tell me if I'm overlooking something. You are kind of right ... you need to

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread Mark Lanctot
haunyack;267563 Wrote: No...I have not filed a bug report and do not intend to. Well then how do you expect your problems to go away? Do you think they'll become aware of your problem through psychic divination? It's obviously working on their machines. Rant as you will, they wouldn't put

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread bephillips
I like the idea of a party plug-in, but am thankful to Kevin (for only about the thirteenth time today) for the remapping remote solution for party mode. Change the play button to play next, add stays add. Invoke the custom party.map and then remove settings from the SB menu during the party, and

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread aubuti
hellesangel;268114 Wrote: At a first glance I'd say that thing is not worth it. It's expensive partially because they've got 1Tb of flash memory in there which is a very odd choice. I'm not sure about the main storage being flash. The Stereophile article quotes the Sooloos honcho as saying

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread hellesangel
Khuli;268109 Wrote: Wow - you're not kidding http://blog.stereophile.com/ces2007/107sooloos/ At a first glance I'd say that thing is not worth it. It's expensive partially because they've got 1Tb of flash memory in there which is a very odd choice. Well, it's a great choice if you've got

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread exile
I too have frustrations with the squeezebox but overall I think it's a heck of a satisfying product. However, some of your frustrations could be avoided by preparing playlists prior to having people over and/or just not letting others touch the remote control. I'm a bit perplexed as to why you'd

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread servies
gbruzzo;268066 Wrote: I sympathise (see the sooloos solution on www.sooloos.com) with this approach. I don't think you will sympathise with the prices for sooloos stuff ;) You can buy about 6 transporters for the price of a complete sooloos system... -- servies There are 10 kinds of people

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread Robin Bowes
gbruzzo wrote: I would love to see a larger, portable touch screen interface (larger than the controller - which I have ordered and am waiting for eagerly): this is something Logitech might very well do one day, and it makes more sense to me than some of the fat player solutions people have

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread haunyack
Mark Lanctot;268050 Wrote: Well then...? Mark, You are correct sir. I have been uncharacteristically grumpy as of late. My recent rants have been off the mark. (no pun) Trouble is, when I get mad and kick the dog...he kicks back. I'll try to be a bit more involved in the process going

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread kolding
amcluesent;267596 Wrote: Funny how posters have problems at 'parties', maybe there should be a 'designated squeezebox user' allowing everyone else to get hammered? Hide the remote where those pesky guests can't find it? Doesn't work if you have a Transporter, but would do great for the

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread Kurt
Metoo;267556 Wrote: So you're having a party demonstrating how easy to use Squeezebox and Slimserver is, or just getting comfortable, browsing the collection and adding what you want to hear with the Add + button like any old juke box. Then somebody goes and presses the Play instead, and

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread mflint
jeffmeh;267807 Wrote: I suppose that I have been using the Squeezeboxen long enough that I am used to the remote interface. However, I do remember making the same mistake numerous times in the early days (hitting play and clearing out a playlist that I had spent a bunch of time putting

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread maggior
amcluesent;267596 Wrote: Funny how posters have problems at 'parties', maybe there should be a 'designated squeezebox user' allowing everyone else to get hammered? Too funny. Carrying this line of thinking further, for further security a breathalyzer plug-in could be developed to disable the

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread Khuli
servies;268093 Wrote: You can buy about 6 transporters for the price of a complete sooloos system... Wow - you're not kidding http://blog.stereophile.com/ces2007/107sooloos/ -- Khuli http://www.last.fm/user/khuli

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread ltb76
amcluesent;267596 Wrote: Funny how posters have problems at 'parties', maybe there should be a 'designated squeezebox user' allowing everyone else to get hammered? A Party PlugIN would make sense in my setup. I love my Squeezeboxes (all 4 of them) but when my ”non Squeezebox” friends stop by

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread jeffmeh
exile;268107 Wrote: I too have frustrations with the squeezebox but overall I think it's a heck of a satisfying product. However, some of your frustrations could be avoided by preparing playlists prior to having people over and/or just not letting others touch the remote control. I'm a bit

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-11 Thread gbruzzo
Pat Farrell;267811 Wrote: jeffmeh wrote: I suppose that I have been using the Squeezeboxen long enough that I am used to the remote interface. I never used the normal remove on my SquuezeBoxen or Transporter. I use a laptop with a web browser. Have for years. Just getting used to

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread autopilot
amcluesent;267596 Wrote: Funny how posters have problems at 'parties', maybe there should be a 'designated squeezebox user' allowing everyone else to get hammered? Yep, need a 'i'm drunk' button or plugin to protect against stuff like this! Or yes, you could just save your playlists. I do a

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread amcluesent
Funny how posters have problems at 'parties', maybe there should be a 'designated squeezebox user' allowing everyone else to get hammered? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile:

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread ceejay
I'm sure we've been here before, or is it deju vue all over again? I think there is a clear need for a party-mode plugin which would disable all setting changes and only allow you to add tracks to the end of the playlist. Have access through the web UI (password protected) for fixing the

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread JJZolx
ceejay;267598 Wrote: I'm sure we've been here before, or is it deju vue all over again? I think there is a clear need for a party-mode plugin which would disable all setting changes and only allow you to add tracks to the end of the playlist. Have access through the web UI (password

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Whilst agreeing that a party mode would be useful, perhaps this thread could legitimately be re-titled Why my ability to properly operate my Squeezebox sucks? ;o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread SilverRS8
Metoo;267556 Wrote: So you're having a party demonstrating how easy to use Squeezebox and Slimserver is, or just getting comfortable, browsing the collection and adding what you want to hear with the Add + button like any old juke box. Then somebody goes and presses the Play instead, and

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread SilverRS8
haunyack;267563 Wrote: Yes..I agree. My rant was a bit off the cuff as I have been fighting the software lately. A recent post of mine (deleted by the lord of the web) explained (with a few expeltives sprinkled throughout) the embarrassment I endured during a dinner party featuring the

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Metoo
Well at least I know it's not just me that thinks this is a major flaw in Squeezebox's UI :) For all those that say I should learn how to use the Squeezebox properly, go through 20 keypresses to save the playlist everytime a track gets added (not simple to get to, is it?), teach my guests or

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Nostromo
Man, I don't even know how to save a playlist with the remote. I use Squeezecenter/Slimserver for that. But I see your point. Maybe it could be a little more user-friendly and fool-proof (with the possibility for more advanced users to opt out) But they made great strides with SC 7. And

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread haunyack
SilverRS8;267619 Wrote: he made a perfect good decision of removing your thread. I agree. If he had not, I would have given edit to clean it up. While the software is officially beta, it's late stage development that is primarily focused on the new Logitech toy Duet. I've been using the

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Metoo
Nostromo;267682 Wrote: Man, I don't even know how to save a playlist with the remote. I use Squeezecenter/Slimserver for that. But I see your point. Maybe it could be a little more user-friendly and fool-proof (with the possibility for more advanced users to opt out) But they made great

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Maybe there could be an option to automatically save playlists, like save the previous playlist whenever playlist changes and call them temp1.m3u, temp2.m3u, etc up to 5 playlists. or an option to save current playlist every x minutes Maybe even date and time stamp the filenames, like:

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Peter
Metoo wrote: Nostromo;267682 Wrote: Man, I don't even know how to save a playlist with the remote. I use Squeezecenter/Slimserver for that. But I see your point. Maybe it could be a little more user-friendly and fool-proof (with the possibility for more advanced users to opt out) But

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread jsprag
Most media players allow you to define the action taken by double clicking on a song. It can either be played immediately or added to the end of the Now Playing list. How about an option in Squeezecenter that allows you to define the action taken when you press the play button? It could do one

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread kdf
On 10-Feb-08, at 8:52 AM, jsprag wrote: Most media players allow you to define the action taken by double clicking on a song. It can either be played immediately or added to the end of the Now Playing list. How about an option in Squeezecenter that allows you to define the action taken

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread Nostromo
Metoo;267709 Wrote: Fair comment, and sorry if it comes across too strong. But painful as it may be to hear, for Squeezebox to be sucessfull, it has to comepete in the real world, and the sentiments expressed are those of real users. You guys have the power to change that, by perhaps

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread radish
haunyack;267698 Wrote: I've been using the beta releases for about 2 years now and have NEVER been stumped (although thoroughly frustrated) as I was the other night. Then you should be happy that you're so lucky. It doesn't matter whether it's late beta or whatever else, if it's not an

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread haunyack
radish;267738 Wrote: If I were having a big party which I wanted to use SC for the first thing I'd do is downgrade back to 6.5.4. That was my first mistake. My second mistake was venting on the forum before I gave myself a chance to get over it. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 -

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread DrNic
Doesn't Press and hold Play - save the current playlist? I've not had reason to use it for a while so I guess this functionality might not exist anymore... Not quite the same as 20+ key presses if it is still there though. Nic -- DrNic

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread peterw
ceejay;267598 Wrote: I'm sure we've been here before, or is it deju vue all over again? I think there is a clear need for a party-mode plugin which would disable all setting changes and only allow you to add tracks to the end of the playlist. Have access through the web UI (password

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread jeffmeh
I suppose that I have been using the Squeezeboxen long enough that I am used to the remote interface. However, I do remember making the same mistake numerous times in the early days (hitting play and clearing out a playlist that I had spent a bunch of time putting together). I agree with the OP

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread pichonCalavera
I would vote for the Undo option, I actually been having this problem since before I used Squeezecenter/Slimserver, I used Winamp and I would add music from Windows Explorer and occasionally by mistake I choosed the Play function and wiped all my playlist, and every time I shout, there should be

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread jsprag
kdf;267729 Wrote: On 10-Feb-08, at 8:52 AM, jsprag wrote: Most media players allow you to define the action taken by double clicking on a song. It can either be played immediately or added to the end of the Now Playing list. How about an option in Squeezecenter that allows you to

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-10 Thread maggior
ceejay;267598 Wrote: I'm sure we've been here before, or is it deju vue all over again? I think there is a clear need for a party-mode plugin which would disable all setting changes and only allow you to add tracks to the end of the playlist. Have access through the web UI (password

[slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread Metoo
So you're having a party demonstrating how easy to use Squeezebox and Slimserver is, or just getting comfortable, browsing the collection and adding what you want to hear with the Add + button like any old juke box. Then somebody goes and presses the Play instead, and all the previous requests

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread haunyack
Metoo;267556 Wrote: Or am I doing something wrong? No...the software sucks. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder - circa 1898. haunyack's Profile:

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread smc2911
Add does add to a *temporary* playlist, but the moment that you press Play rather than Add you zap the old playlist and start a new one...note the emphasis on temporary. However, there is a Save feature for playlists, so use this next time you line up a long playlist and then it will be visible

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread smc2911
haunyack;267557 Wrote: Why can't the experts make it work as advertised?As far as I'm aware it doesn't say anywhere that temporary playlists will be saved (unless you explicitly press Save), so I have never expected it to behave other than the way it does in this regard. -- smc2911

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread haunyack
smc2911;267562 Wrote: As far as I'm aware it doesn't say anywhere that temporary playlists will be saved (unless you explicitly press Save), so I have never expected it to behave other than the way it does in this regard. Yes..I agree. My rant was a bit off the cuff as I have been fighting

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread MeSue
I have accidentally wiped out playlists before by pressing play instead of add. It would be nice if there were some kind of confirmation for this. Maybe everyone wouldn't like it, so it could be an option in setting such as Confirm actions which would replace the current playlist. That way you

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread smc2911
SuperQ;267576 Wrote: When I was working on a bookshelf I drilled holes in the wrong place on several boards and had to re-make the boards. This took 3 more days to sand, stain, and varnish the wood. Of course I bitched at myself for an hour or so, but the drill press never asked me are you

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread SuperQ
I prefer the UNIX way of doing things personally. If I type do this thing I want you to do I don't want endless Are you sure prompts. Computers are tools, they should act like tools and not nannies. When I was working on a bookshelf I drilled holes in the wrong place on several boards and had

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread ehjones
SuperQ;267576 Wrote: I'd rather have the Slim guys working on new real features and fixing bugs than making every last bit of the system idiot proof. If I do an idiotic thing, it's my fault, I should pay attention and be less of an idiot. I largely agree with your sentiment and I like

Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...

2008-02-09 Thread Timothy Stockman
Seems to me that an undo feature to get back playlists accidentally wiped out would satisfy both groups. Those who want to use it can. Those who don't want to use it can kick themselves for accidentally clearing their playlist. And it won't get it anyone's way... -- Timothy Stockman