mortslim wrote:
> Logitech is laying off employees and losing money.
>
> Here is a link about the layoffs:
> http://allthingsd.com/20120608/struggling-logitech-bites-bullet-lays-off-450/
>
And hiring new people:
http://hire.jobvite.com/CompanyJobs/Careers.aspx?c=qgX9Vfw1&v=1&page=Job%20Descri
maggior wrote:
>
> Whether a squeezebox or a BT speaker system appeals to you depends on
> what your PRIMARY music source is. If you are a high school or college
> kid, it's likely nowadays that your primary music source is some
> protable device like an iPod, andriod phone, tablet, etc. For tho
mortslim wrote:
>
> Here is how Roku works with content developers:
>
> An open platform, Rokus Streaming Player enables content owners to
> bypass traditional distribution routes and reach views and consumers
> directly. Rokus platform allows a wide variety of channels and
> monetization op
kidstypike wrote:
> Well if it's resting, I'll wake it up .. ::Wake up Logitech!!!::
This is the wrong place to try to wake anyone from Logitech, if you want
to reach someone within Logitech you better go to their official support
forum at http://forums.logitech.com where there at least are
mortslim wrote:
>
> Content providers will show interest if they see sufficient market
> penetration for the squeezebox. They do a cost/benefit analysis just
> like Logitech. If the missing content providers see that they can reach
> a tipping point for eardrums, they'lll come to the platform.
garym wrote:
> I have very little hirez, but the Sonos deal killer for me is the
> inability to handle more than about 60,000 files (except in some back
> door clunky way involving windows media player). I have 70,000 files
> and I'm only a third of my way through ripping my CDs.
>
I understand
michael123 wrote:
>
> Can we get any kind of roadmap?
>
No, we won't get any official roadmap, Logitech will keep information
about new major products or features secret until they are ready to
announce them.
What kind of functionality are you missing which you would like to be
included in the
michael123 wrote:
> The library based today with this one-hour scanning is less convenient
> that it might be.
> Browsing my 3000+ album library is not possible basically. I need to use
> search..
> and I want the search engine to be more powerful (see J.River for
> example)
>
Are you using a co
Sometimes I wish all these "squeezebox is about to die" threads instead
could be focused on posting specific ideas regarding what new/changed
features users are missing. I started a thread previously about this:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94987-What-is-missing-from-your-Squeezebo
cncb wrote:
>
> I would just like playlist groups (hierarchy) and predefined genre
> shuffle playlists (smartlists or whatever you want to call them). This
> kind of (standard) stuff should be built in and I shouldn't have to pay
> $50 to a 3rd-party developer to get it.
>
I completely agree t
I would absolutely love if there were some competitor, either based on
UPnP or based on some proprietary solution, which had similar features
and characteristics as the Squeezebox.
Unfortunately I haven't found anything yet within the same price range
and I suspect the situation is pretty much th
castalla wrote:
> Is there anyone out there who could investigate whether minus.com could
> be implemented for SB?
>
> There's API info at http://minus.com/pages/api
>
>From an API perspective it feels like it should be possible to
implement, the main issue is if they allow copyright files in p
castalla wrote:
>
> > erland wrote:
> > From an API perspective it feels like it should be possible to
> > implement, the main issue is if they allow copyright files in private
> > folders, if this isn't allowed it won't work.
> > Spontaneously,
aubuti wrote:
> The excellent PlayLog plugin will keep track of everything played. I
> don't recall how easy it is to go from its log to playing the
> tracks/albums again.
>
It's very easy to do it with the excellent PlayLog plugin if you are
happy using the SBS/LMS web interface to do it. PlayL
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
> I have 110,000+ tracks and I was forced to used a ramdisk for the cache
> and database. But LMS has been working very well since implementing
> it.
>
Was it getting better or worse with 7.6 when they introduced SQLite as
database engine ?
--
bobkoure wrote:
>
> Remember that SBS was written with the intention of being read only, so
> even if someone noxious breaks in they can listen to your music, or make
> you listen to some of your own music, make your music stop, stuff like
> that.
> Yeah, SBS is in Perl, which can be, well, idio
gozer wrote:
>
> Second case: Can I install just LMS on a NAS like a synology 212 and
> stream to my Touches without a PC running? If not, what application(s)
> or plugin(s) do I need instead of or in addition to LMS to stream from a
> NAS to my Touches without a PC running?
>
If you run LMS o
gozer wrote:
> Thanks for the response, especially the clarity on whitebear. A
> followup question: while iPeng seems a popular choice for controlling
> from iwhatever devices, is there a consensus preference for controlling
> from Android tablets/phones? I looked around and could not tell what
pippin wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kotBhjloJIo
>
Even though the teaser video/process doesn't expose much it's some kind
of indication that there finally might be someone within the music
section within Logitech who understands that marketing is needed. I'm
not saying the teaser is a
autopilot wrote:
> Putting the fact that we can still run our hardware in the short term
> aside for now; To me, it seems like the only real alternative solution
> is Sonos. Opinions? What would you buy now and why?
>
Short term:
- Continue using Squeezebox, it's still the best system out there
Benefactor wrote:
> What I mean is extra units you purchased as backups in case one of your
> older units fails?
>
I have an extra Touch which has been upgraded to recent firmware but
after that been put back in the box.
Also have a Boom, a Duet and a Classic which are powered on but I'm not
usi
s especially true as long as the old Slim Devices developers
are still working for Logitech.
Wirrunna wrote:
>
> 2. Fork LMS - probably a good move, but again we need some indication
> from Logitech, better answered by you, Erland, Triode, CParker and other
> active developers
>
audiomuze wrote:
> The way I see it those looking for online media consumption/ streaming
> devices will and should begin looking to alternatives (please lets not
> debate that in this thread - anyone wishing to explore this topic please
> do so in a separate thread)
>
I agree, we should handle
castalla wrote:
> Not being any kind of devloper, I wonder how difficult it'd be to create
> an alternative Tunein plugin which doesn't depend on mysb.com?
As long as the developer can get access to the API from TuneIn it won't
be a big problem as long as you are running a local LMS, the LMS is
n
lrossouw wrote:
>
> > erland wrote:
> > ...but I don't want to go into any further details regarding this at the
> > moment> >
> What are you up to erland? :)
>
I don't want to go into any further details at this moment. :)
The only advice I
Labarum wrote:
>
> A software with all the ability of Logitech Media Server and able to
> send media streams to any Apple compatible (Airplay) device would be a
> boon. Apple would hate it, and the software would no doubt have to be
> constantly modified to dodge spoiling tactics, but that's one
Mnyb wrote:
>
> Also if the project fork and if a community replacement for mysb.com
> arises ,you still want the majority of work to be done by the local
> server to save load , so as much as possible done locally .
>
> This pretty much assumes a local server ,but that's how has to be.
>
It d
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote:
> Now that Logitech has destroyed the Squeezebox product line,will someone
> with the capabilities of Sean Adams
> pick up the pieces and continue to develop this product?What is the
> likelihood of that?
>
> Slim Devices rises from the ashes?
>
Great entrepreneurs u
Mnyb wrote:
>
> I can see the practical reasons for logitech as they do it now to keep
> most services at mysb.com even if they could be local ,as you say
> maintenance is easier . But that may be an expensive solution if done on
> hobby basis .
>
I don't think it can be done on hobby basis, if
mjwoj wrote:
> Most of my Squeezebox usage consists of playing my own digital FLAC
> files from my media server within my house through Ethernet/ wifi--I
> don't use MySqueezebox too often (don't play spotify or Pandora too
> often). With that in mind, and in light of the Logitech pending
> shut
jimzak wrote:
>
> However, I would be interested in the alternatives that are out there
> for hi-fi networked music aside from Sonos.
>
In my opinion, if we look at what's available now:
*For audiophiles:*
Base your system on a solution from your favorite HiFi manufacturer, you
can probably fo
jimzak wrote:
> Addendum: I don't understand why this URL does not work because when I
> go to the product page via Google, this is the URL.
>
> Anyway Google DNP720AE
>
> ?!
It's caused by forum software skipping the last ) in the url, the
correct URL is:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Page
Mnyb wrote:
>
> As for controll on iSomething or Andriod what would be good ?
>
The Kinsky iOS app from Linn is the best UPnP/DLNA controller I've seen,
no idea if it works with the Denon hardware, often there seems to be a
bit incompatibilities between UPnP devices from different
manufacturers
Please stop this discussion, none of the people here have any clue what
you are talking about.
You only have the outside view of it, you have no idea how the profit
and solvency for the Squeezebox business looked at the end in Slim
Devices and how it looked within Logitech during the period when
I asked this before at end of 2010:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?83986-Would-you-be-willing-to-pay-for-Squeezebox-Server
Of course, people might think differently now when Logitech has stopped
producing devices named Squeezebox, but I thought I'd post the link
since it might be in
BTHOEM wrote:
> The decent thing of Logitech to do, would be to secure the continued
> satisfaction of their Squeezebox customer base by submitting the
> Squeezebox technology to Open Source - client as well as server (incl.
> plugins and remote control SW) and contributing to establishing a
> de
the nightfly wrote:
> is there a forum or other such site for SB to continue on if (when)
> Logitech pulls the plug on this one? Personally, I wouldn't be the least
> bit surprised to see it happen very soon -- especially since I would
> guess management would not be happy with the beating their
verypsb wrote:
> Squuezeslave does not work with sample rates other than 44.1khz/16bit
> and many music streaming services don't work with Squeezeslave.
>
Isn't that because Logitech generally blocks all non Logitech players
from mysqueezebox.com provided premium streaming services ?
-
JohnB wrote:
>
> The problem would be setting up a "formal" group willing to maintain LMS
> whilst finding a structure that people felt comfortable with, which gave
> some assurance that the subscriptions would be properly used and which
> didn't dissolve into multi-forked versions of LMS as var
ticalex wrote:
>
> 5/ No display at all. Even the simple LCD display of the original
> squeezebow where the weakness of the product (as logitech kept same
> harware, it is the same with logitech devices). With the low price of
> any smart phone, tablets, smart TVs a remote software can show
BTHOEM wrote:
> Hi Erland - just landed on this URL:
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/
>
> Version 10 is called UE Music Library and looks very much like todays
> SBS/LMS.
> Do you know if it works as Squeezebox server for our current SBs?
>
> Bjørn Tore
>
SBGK wrote:
> wrong on 3 counts there.
>
When I said "People" it meant normal people not "Geeks" as most people
in this community are in one way or another.
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Mnyb wrote:
>
> So sure we can have an UE-radio forum besides the normal radio forum (if
> someone decides that is a good idea ) ? but they are going to have to
> build a knowledge base from scratch as most people here don't have such
> knowledge, it will take a while .
> But UE users may initia
garym wrote:
>
> And they pay for and host this forum. So it strikes me that keeping the
> forum alive is a good idea.
>
Exactly, and it's probably more likely that they will keep it on longer
terms if there is a UE Smart Radio section on it.
--
routehero wrote:
> It's highly unlikely that anyone is regularly reviewing these forums
> from Logitech besides mherger and perhaps some of the old
> Squeezenetworks engineers.
>
> With that said, any complaints that you're voicing here are unlikely to
> reach the right audience. The "official"
I agree with the general topic and I'm both impressed and thankful to
the great work and patience everyone both inside Logitech and in the
community has shown during the past years, it's also important to
remember that this community is not just about developers, I also want
to thank all active, h
This post is a good start, it gives a fairly clear view of what it means
for the Squeezebox (it's not an official statement but it comes from a
Logitech employee):
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295
On top of this I've also said
pallfreeman wrote:
> The last few posts have got me wondering... what are the most expensive
> and/or upmarket products that Logitech have sold? Are other things being
> EOL'ed?
>
> I'd somehow be happier if I thought they were cutting all of their
> high-end products, rather than targeting SBs.
garym wrote:
> Over my morning coffee, perusing the latest posts, I've been thinking
> about all the discussions recently that focus in some manner on trying
> to predict future Logitech actions. Can be interesting reading of
> course, but I've decided to focus my "seeing the future" skills on
>
SlimChances wrote:
> Erland You said in an earlier post on this thread "Squeezebox
> Classic/Boom/Transporter/Receiver all load their firmware via the local
> LMS, so for these there aren't any issue to load the firmware you like
> and they don't force mysqueezebox.com
bertdw wrote:
> Now that the Squeezebox line is gone, and its "replacement" doesn't even
> have a digital output, I'm in semi-panic mode. What happens if my three
> year old Duet dies? Can it be repaired? By Logitech? If I buy a Touch
> as a backup, can that be repaired?
>
First of all, why
lambono wrote:
>
> Is this really the beginning of the end? When did logitech decide to
> move away for the squeezebox/touch devices?
>
The following post summarize the situation:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295
--
The 10.0 version is UE Music Library, the server software which is used
for UE Smart Radio devices.
It comes with two start scripts:
- ueml.pl (Which starts it in UE Music Library mode)
- slimserver.pl (Which starts it in LMS mode)
I'm not sure how tested the LMS mode is at the moment, it might w
amey01 wrote:
> Wow - multiple startup scripts, text file configuration, no playlists,
> etc.
>
> Sounds really simple and highly suited to the mass market! NOT.
>
> Way to go Logitech.
>
There are playlists, it's just that the current playlist is handled by
the cloud server instead of the lo
local.bin wrote:
> Just wondered if 7.8 would be delivered, or will 7.7.x be the last?
>
Future will tell, nobody knows at the moment, not even people within
Logitech.
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local.bin wrote:
> Ok thanks :)
>
> Hope they open source it or something so it can be maintained.
>
> Not holding my breath though.
Most parts of LMS is already open source, but there are some parts like
Windows installer, some audio codecs and all icons/logos which can't be
redistributed wit
GeeJay wrote:
>
> If I could get back all the important functionality I currently enjoy, I
> could get over the backwards compatibility issues (meaning I'd
> eventually have to buy 4 new devices), and could even live with having
> to access all my local music through the Internet (although I sti
GeeJay wrote:
> It would have to retain the ability to run random playlists based on a
> variety of factors, such as genres, years, ratings, etc.
>
I doubt you will ever get anything more than random for genres from
Logitech, but if they decided to open UE Music Library to third party
plugins t
nervoteso wrote:
> Logitech did not invent SB, Slimdevices did it, didn't it? may be
> possible some company like slimdevices buy squeezeboxes line or
> mysqueezebox?
>
> maybe not, if logitech keep on producing something like UE smart
> radiobut i keep on dreaming!
>
If there is a need and
nervoteso wrote:
> just a curiosity: where are people from slimdevices now? are they in
> logitech o somewhere?
>
Some are within Logitech in other departments, some are within Logitech
and still working with Squeezebox or UE Smart Radio and some have moved
on and works for other companies. Even
sander wrote:
>
> How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices?
>
The press release is here:
http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/172/2763
Which says: "$20 million in cash plus a possible performance-based
payment, tied to reaching certain future revenue targets."
sander wrote:
>
> Could Slim Devices
gharris999 wrote:
> Yeah, but there were no announced plans to EOL the Squeezebox line
> either. In fact, has there been an "official" announcement at all? And
> yet we all know that this has happened.
>
This is the most official I've found:
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/L
Mark Miksis wrote:
> I think the real question is what will happen if, for example, Spotify
> changes their API and updates are needed on the MySB side to keep it
> active. Will the music services just all fade away one by one as this
> happens? LMA has already suffered this fate...
>
No reaso
DaveWr wrote:
> I don't blame the situation on external developers but the strategy (or
> lack of) from Logitech. There was no protection of Logitech value,
> consequently no business case. As soon as derivation of players
> appeared on third party software products, there was an inevitable iss
DaveWr wrote:
> Don't agree, at least the iPod system can be connected to a quality
> stereo system, it will also have App support for the majority if not all
> online music services.
>
Which works great unless you want a remote, because it's when you want
to remote control all these apps it's s
DaveWr wrote:
> However one of the users has been writing a server, which allows a great
> approach to flexible music library searching, Minimserver is definitely
> one of the better approaches to music library searching. I think it is
> significantly better than LMS. It allows loads of variety
Pale Blue Ego wrote:
> I currently have 5 Slimdevices players, the newest being the SB3. I
> would like to future-proof my system with another hardware player or 2.
> Would it be best to just stick with the SB3? That way, I could possibly
> use much earlier and simpler versions of the server s
foehammer wrote:
> Will the new UE smartradio be able to have all the same plugins? I use
> scannerbox alot ,...http://www.scannerbox.us/
>
At the moment UE Smart Radio doesn't support third party plugins/applets
at all.
In theory, applets like scannerbox can probably work, but at the moment
dbinder101 wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, is MusicIP still supported with the new server
> (that's the one plug-in I use almost all the time)?
>
I think they intend to support it because there are commits during the
last 2 weeks which indicates they are about to re-enable MusicIP plugin
in the
jimzak wrote:
> http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57519226-221/logitech-leaves-squeezebox-fans-wondering-whats-next/
>
Regarding official information, for what it's worth, I think the
official response from Logitech is the one found here:
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logit
menno wrote:
> I dont know. The fact they have not informed us their long-time
> customers of this news, and the fact we have to find out via forums or
> cnet is pretty poor in my view.
>
> I certainly dont feel like that this is the way for a company to treat
> it's loyal customers.
>
> We de
tigersim wrote:
>
> This to me suggests there is a good possibility to sustain this
> ecosystem just in the same way that other open source projects live on.
> Maybe in time there's even a possibility to come up with basic 'thin'
> players (think SB Receiver) based on a Raspberry Pi or whatever
tigersim wrote:
> Images and name can be "re-imagined"... :)
>
If someone with the necessary drawing skills is interested to spend some
time drawing completely new icons/logos for whole LMS and Touch/Radio
firmware, that would be a great start if some developer wants to make
what you suggested h
tigersim wrote:
>
> As for a new business entity taking it on, well I'm sure most people
> here would wish any such venture the very best, but with my objective
> hat on I'm not sure I can yet see a strong enough commercial case - one
> that would stand on pure business merits, independent of 'b
agillis wrote:
>
> I have been looking through the Logitech GIT repo and there is also a
> full version of UE Music Library. This has not been released by Logitech
> yet but it seems to be more like LMS. And it looks like it's designed to
> support both kinds of players. UE players and the old T
dasmueller wrote:
>
> My concern w the whole Squeezebox system going forward is that by
> attempting to appeal to more of a mass market that Logitech is shooting
> itself in the foot.
>
Logitech needs to do mass market, that's their strength, as a company
they don't have the experience and kn
didjean wrote:
> http://blog.logitech.com/2012/09/28/an-open-letter-to-squeezebox-fans/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LogitechBlog+%28BLogitech%29
>
Ok, let's try if Logitech are serious, I posted a thread about
activating the possibility to install third party a
Mnyb wrote:
> Now the comments on the blog is adding up but none of mine :-/ oh well
>
Maybe you said something they didn't like, or asked for something they
couldn't provide, or maybe asked something complex so they don't want to
publish your comment before they have discussed it on a managemen
It seems like the some more blog comments now have been moderated, at
least a few more is now visible including some answers.
There wasn't much news, but a few things were clarified:
- They "actively" plan to support mysqueezebox.com for the "foreseeable
future", so people who are worried it wil
JJZolx wrote:
> "Next step"? How so? What does Logitech gain from continuing to support
> Squeezebox? Financially, nothing. $0.
>
> Beyond keeping mysb.com afloat, what are you expecting in terms of
> support? An updated server that addresses the many hundreds of valid
> bugs on file? Repairs of
JJZolx wrote:
> It couldn't get much less active.
>
> Face it. It's dead.
>
It answers when I ping it, so something must be still alive :-)
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Mnyb wrote:
> *sigh* I really must rub those guys the wrong way
>
They can't answer your questions without exposing internal company
information.
If they provide an answer, they won't provide the details you want, so
there is no point waiting for an answer.
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Inconsistency/Problems", it sounds like the "Duplicate entries in
TrackStat statistics" and "Duplicate musicbrainz song tags" entries are
going to indicate issues in your setup.
Then if you have a lot of duplicate musicbrainz ids/TrackStat entries,
which I suspect you do
garym wrote:
> The poster that started this thread indicated he was interested in
> making an offer. The odds of original owners buying it back are said to
> be zero by people that know more about their situation.
>
I would say that the chance of Logitech selling to anyone would also be
pretty
47tuc wrote:
> I have a problem with my Duet Receiver and so I logged a case with
> Logitech back in August (I'm in Australia so I called the local freecall
> number). The operator told me that they don't deal directly with
> Squeezebox issues so my case would need to be referred to another
> se
TheLastMan wrote:
> In fact in terms of "features" (plug-ins etc) the competition are not
> even half-way there, and likely never will be as most, like AirPlay and
> Sonos, are closed proprietary protocols.
>
As long as we are talking about the currently known competitors I tend
to agree, they a
itm wrote:
> I have decided to revert to an older version of Squeezecentre Server, as
> the latest LMS release is frequently crashing on my Window 2008 Server.
> I need to find an older, stable version that supports the use of more
> than one Music folder (on separate network shares). I've tried
castalla wrote:
> Today's SB outage gives us a taste of the future without MySB.com.
>
Squeezebox maintained by Logitech isn't the long term future, we just
need it to live long enough until someone else (or Logitech) comes up
with something better, hopefully Logitech will keep MySB.com alive un
castalla wrote:
>
> At the very least, Tunein should be independent of mysb.com. As far as
> I know, Tunein on other systems is not dependent on a 3rd party
> connection?
>
It's not a problem to have third party streaming services depending on a
central cloud server, if the software isn't main
Mnyb wrote:
>
> Yes it will , if the central server goes down it's dead for everyone if
> it runs locally on everyone's server a failure only affects one machine
> , the slow death of lack maintainnance is another issue .
>
Correct, but it would really just make it work a bit longer, if it's no
charlotte wrote:
> logitech-leaves-squeezebox-fans-wondering-whats-next
>
> This article on cnet has freaked me out... My squeezebox radio is quite
> new and I m quite attached to it
> Please someone tell me the server will be alive and kicking for more
> than the 3-6 months logitech seems t
oddball wrote:
>
> 1) I get that the Radio stations could still be accessed directly by url
> but what solutions are there for Spotify support if MySB.com goes down
> or is pulled completely?
>
There is a third party Spotify which you can install in LMS running on a
computer on your local netwo
oddball wrote:
>
> If I can't connect am I able to install the Triode Spotify Plugin?
>
You might have to configure his repository URL directly since the
default repository url's are hosted on mysqueezebox.com at the moment.
His direct repository url is:
Code:
http:
jezbo wrote:
> Interesting comments on the VortexBox forums from one of the admins
> there about Logitech's possible intention of future server software
> supporting both sets of products (UE and squeezebox):
> http://vortexbox.org/threads/4401-Continued-support-for-squeezebox-LMS?p=28145&viewful
benybrady wrote:
> Alternatively, could I just buy 5 of these guys and 5 iPod touch and
> hook them independently to their own individual speakers and
> voila...??could I control each individual iPod with my phone?...just a
> thought. I watched the video on the link and he just hooked up a $22 am
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