I'm travelling this week, but am willing to look at the survey. No
proprietary formats please. ;)
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Mon, 8 Aug
Sorry, I hadn't meant to send to the whole list. Fingers went on auto
pilot.
However, I wonder if there have been any studies about what functions /
features people actually use or want to use in a productivity suite?
How about HCI studies with people unfamiliar with computers?
-Lars
Lars
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Jonathon Blake wrote:
It is such a small niche that microsoft has announced that they have
lost, and will continue to lose market share in the desktop, and
office suite, due to FLOSS products.
Uppsala University, for example, got a 90% discount on MS-Office. I'm not
sure
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
You would think that a conservative institution like Harvard would wanna
skew its results in Microsoft's favor. But I thought that their
analysis was surprisingly not handicapped very much in Microsoft's
favor.
Perhaps that's the best they
The article, and cetainly some replies, makes a mistake that many other
similar articles make: MS is not the alpha and omega of closed source so
the debate is not MS vs OpenSource, but MS vs both Closed and Open Source.
We get reminded of that every time MS gets caught using illegal methods
. It will be a viable
alternative to MS software. It may even be better. But it will never
replace MS software. There's too many corporate types that believe that
price and quality of software are directly proportional.
For the rich there will always be MS. For the rest of us there is OSS.
Chuck
Lars D
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Peter Reaper wrote:
[...]
Now the EU could, as a *client*, require that all electronically submitted
reports be in an open format...
[...]
That is an excellent idea. Where would one start on that?
I can think of similar reasons to do the same in the US for NSF and NIH.
been issued?
Alright! I'll just bend over and you guys can kick. Go ahead ... ;-)
Alex Janssen
Lars D. Noodén wrote:
One problem is the junk patent which is far too vague and covers obvious
developments and covers prior art. Two perl modules come to mind right off
Storeable and Data
One problem is the junk patent which is far too vague and covers obvious
developments and covers prior art. Two perl modules come to mind right
off Storeable and Data::Dumper;, I'm sure there are other serialization
modules in C libraries or even Pascal if one wants examples going back to
the
But the difference between copyright and patents are that patents govern
the *use* or *implementation* of that idea not just dissemination. So
that's why with software being governed by copyright, you can have several
programs that do the same thing. If software becomes governed by patents
That is why I recommended that OOo point to Mozilla for that
functionality. Mozilla's already rather mainstream, but having the
official documentation point to it wouldn't hurt. If some businesses have
subscribed to the monolith way of thinking, hten perhaps an arrangement
can be made to
If this bothers you then write your EU representative or that of the EU
country you have business or project partners in:
http://wwwdb.europarl.eu.int/ep6/owa/p_meps2.repartition?ilg=EN
Otherwise, the situations is likely to get worse. As monopoly rents go
away, look for more things
Mozilla already offers pretty good simple HTML editor. You can use that
along side OOo, and it includes a good web browser, mail client and news
reader as well. No real need to re-invent the wheel, unless you are sure
about inventing a better one.
XMetal and Dreamweaver have the advanced
John,
There seem to me to be few articles that actually compare the two, so if
you do some analysis yourself, you will quickly be a (world) leader in
that area. If you do write something, I'd look forward to reading it.
Check with several libraries in your area (e.g. public and university)
Lyle,
Here was an interesting quote regarding TCO. That even if the TCO weren't
lower (though pretty much all non-MS funded studies seem to indicate it is
lower) freedom does have a value in and of itself:
In the South African
context, it would be a bit like arguing for
I agree that ethics are important.
MS apologists often try to spin the discussion of ethics into a general
closed source vs open source debate, which is wrong. There are some very
good closed source companies out there, Opera AS being one, which provide
an excellent product which works well
Cleaning out my TODO list, I dug up an article with some coverage of
OpenDocument and OOo:
The case for open source software.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/300305_Database/30Mar2005_data51.php
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Not rocky enough, there's still little public discussion and what
discussion there is focuses on developers, usually only F/OSS developers
at that. Patents govern *use* and as such affect everyone who uses a
computer, though businesses and larger institutions will feel the brunt of
the cost.
Considering a corporate environment, the support staff, not the newbie,
would take care of connecting to the LAN/Internet as well as ensuring that
automount is set up. Permissions are simpler (rwx for user or group) than
most file sharing systems like AFS or Novell's Netware, but require a bit
During testing and roll out, don't do it all at once. That's a bad habit
introduced by MS to create crises. Find one or two early adopters who are
interested and have them run a short pilot. Then phase it in one group at
a time. As things go well, the pace can be accelerated. Once you're
I think more companies will be taking that approach, especially since BSA
and probably FAST give the appearance to be working on behalf of MS and
not any other closed source vendors:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1998/01/burstein.html
Using OOo allows companies to keep the
It's a bit misleading to try to call MS' data formats standards, they tend
to be specific to individual versions.
It would be nice if the EU were to publicize an endorsement of
OpenDocument.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
[...]
I wonder if mycrosoft respond to all this EU validating OASIS as the standard
has to do with the recent exposure of METRO
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/print/metro_FAQ.mspx)
I would expect so, MS seems to not can't stand for any press
That is really great news. Gary, can you post a URL for a press release
after the voting is complete on Saturday or Sunday?
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
[snip]
Mistake. Word 6.0 (for Windows 3.x) and Word 95 (for Win32) are
completely interchangable. I _know_ this. This is what forces me to think,
that thay formats are identical.
My experiences have been that those two formats are not the same.
US Federal grant applications are probably going to be moving to
electronic submissions eventually. I think that there is a strong case to
be made for supporting an open, platform independent, royalty-free format
like OpenDocument in the application process.
The test site is visible here:
Try approaching the problem from the topic of records retention and
interchange. MSO file formats change a little each version and the
different versions are not quite compatible with each other. That's
presumably to drive new sales. OOo, in contrast, does a good job in
importing MSO
I couldn't find the IRC details at the URL below. Is there a transcript
available?
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005, Daniel Carrera wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
This is NOT a missunderstanding OOo DOES look to communicate with Sun
Servers and the firewalls do warn the user about it.
The misunderstanding is on the side of the user about the nature of the
connection.
The firewall is doing it's job.
It
What is the best way to enlighten the large population of end users that
there are applications that track and report on all their activties and
that OOo is not one of them?
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
How in the world is that the responsability of the Firewall to know?
The
While we have the theme of privacy concerns going, does OOo embed a
tracking number (aka GUID or global unique identifier) into documents like
MS-Office97 and later do?
If yes, why and are there plans to stop?
If no, are there plans to keep it that way?
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Martin,
I think the opiner has confused OOo with MS-Office 2003 or with MSIE.
OOo has no tracking, especially not web.
However, MS-Office 2003 (along with MS-Windows XP) has DRM functions
which, as a side effect if activated, track who does tries to create,
edit, copy, delete, rename, save,
Ok, from the responses, it sounds like MS-Publisher is around because it
was bundled for a while with other MS products.
Perhaps an article or tutorial or HOWTO on the topic of using OOo for
flyers or newsletters is in order.
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Where can I find the OOo 2 beta for OS X? The OS X downloads page seems
to link only to OOo 1.1.2:
http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html#download
-Lars
Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Thanks Steve and Eike,
From the prompting from the two of you, I have the method I wanted:
Data-Filter-Standard Filter (= not empty )
- More - No Duplication, Copy results to...
-Lars
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