Re: [SH-Discuss] What We Offer Page

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Buczko
I added the 3D printer. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > Alex, I added the agreed drafting in link format to the page. > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:22 PM, alex kot wrote: > >> After work today I can help out with this. Do we have an Blueprint of >> the new space, th

Re: [SH-Discuss] The Bucket System

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Buczko
That looks cool! -Derpy Approves- On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Tomm Smith wrote: > TD, > We could possibly make some calls to local industrial plants and inquire > as to if they have buckets about what we need or similar that their raw > materials come in and possibly try to claim there

Re: [SH-Discuss] Spiff updated with membership dues

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Buczko
Ah, where is the Forgot password link? and or Reset password? Andy On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote: > Greetings, all! > > Spiff is back up and running, with all the historical accounting data about > member dues imported. You can visit it here, at the same URL as always:

Re: [SH-Discuss] The Bucket System

2014-03-03 Thread Philip P. Patnode
FYI Any decent size restaurant or caterer uses and discards more than a few round and square buckets every day. Just ask the chief cook and bottle washer to save them for a few days and pick up the pile. In less than two weeks, several shelves could be filled with overflowing buckets of good jun

[SH-Discuss] Fwd: [SH-Members] Closing the space Reminder

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
Found on members@, its pretty useful on discuss@. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [SH-Members] Closing the space Reminder Date: Sunday, March 02, 2014, 23:00:40 From: Justin Herman To: memb...@synhak.org I stopped in tonight and the heat was still up high and some of the ligh

[SH-Discuss] open hours - monday/3

2014-03-03 Thread Philip P. Patnode
When will the building be open today? Who will be the member overlord/monitor/mentor for the day? Thanks! Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: [SH-Discuss] open hours - monday/3

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 09:47:52 Philip P. Patnode wrote: > When will the building be open today? > > Who will be the member overlord/monitor/mentor for the day? > > Thanks! > > Philip I will be there at 6 PM today. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@

Re: [SH-Discuss] open hours - monday/3

2014-03-03 Thread Philip P. Patnode
TF Thanks for the info. Will arrive shortly after 6pm. PPP On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote: > On Monday, March 03, 2014 09:47:52 Philip P. Patnode wrote: > > When will the building be open today? > > > > Who will be the member overlord/monitor/mentor for the day? > > > >

[SH-Discuss] need help with two hard drives

2014-03-03 Thread Philip P. Patnode
Anybody @ SH I have two hard drives that I need to work on and do not have the USB adapter to connect them to my laptop. It is buried in some unknown box in one on my storage units and I do not have the time or energy to conduct a mining expedition to find it. I need to access a 160 GB 2.5in SAT

Re: [SH-Discuss] The leased racks

2014-03-03 Thread Omar Rassi
My understanding from conversations at the space about this was that the racks would have plywood walls built onto them so that they can be separated from prying eyes and sticky hands. Nothing on those shelves should concern anyone but the Lessee and legal agents of the lessor. Is there a copy of t

Re: [SH-Discuss] need help with two hard drives

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 10:05:35 Philip P. Patnode wrote: > Anybody @ SH > > I have two hard drives that I need to work on and do not have the USB > adapter to connect them to my laptop. It is buried in some unknown box in > one on my storage units and I do not have the time or energy to conduc

Re: [SH-Discuss] The leased racks

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 10:13:08 Omar Rassi wrote: > My understanding from conversations at the space about this was that the > racks would have plywood walls built onto them so that they can be > separated from prying eyes and sticky hands. Nothing on those shelves > should concern anyone but th

[SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
Previous thread: https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003393.html I'd like to propose that we spend $200 to reserve the two t1.micro instances in that proposal for the purpose of web servers. Our current AWS expenditure is still ~$80/mo. Spending $200 up front will reduce that bi

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Andrew Buczko
WAT? first you said it was $1.60 Then $16.40 Now it's $123.10 ? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote: > Previous thread: > > https://synhak.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-February/003393.html > > I'd like to propose that we spend $200 to reserve the two t1.micro > instances > in

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
I agree with Andrew, I hold several concerns about this proposal and think we need to evaluate the needs of the infrastructure. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Buczko wrote: > WAT? > > first you said it was $1.60 > Then $16.40 > Now it's $123.10 > > ? > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:0

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 11:33:37 Andrew Buczko wrote: > WAT? > > first you said it was $1.60 > Then $16.40 > Now it's $123.10 Erm, where are you getting those numbers from? This proposal is essentially only a small portion of the original suggestion. Instead of buying all two t1.micro, and th

Re: [SH-Discuss] The leased racks

2014-03-03 Thread Craig Bergdorf
If i may help summarize the mood as I saw it at the time for those in the back, 48 is still very new, with double the space and a seemingly never ending list of projects: member's money is flying out the doors with no end in sight, the saying 'give till it hurts, then come back tomorrow' feels lik

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 11:35:51 Justin Herman wrote: > I agree with Andrew, > > I hold several concerns about this proposal and think we need to evaluate > the needs of the infrastructure. If you've got "several concerns", what are those concerns? I too can claim to be "concerned" about somet

Re: [SH-Discuss] need help with two hard drives

2014-03-03 Thread Philip P. Patnode
TF If you can find one, please set it aside for me. Would you like a 6in sub from Subway? If yes, tell me what bread and contents you want. Dressing? Thanks! PPP On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote: > On Monday, March 03, 2014 10:05:35 Philip P. Patnode wrote: > > Anybody

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Chris Egeland
I'm sorry, but I'm siding with Torrie on this one. On 3/3/2014 11:35 AM, Justin Herman wrote: > I agree with Andrew, > > I hold several concerns about this proposal and think we need to > evaluate the needs of the infrastructure. The purpose of bringing up proposals on the discuss list is so that

Re: [SH-Discuss] The leased racks

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 11:50:03 Craig Bergdorf wrote: > If i may help summarize the mood as I saw it at the time for those in the > back, > > 48 is still very new, with double the space and a seemingly never ending > list of projects: member's money is flying out the doors with no end in > sigh

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Craig Bergdorf
or, if it's $200 and you know for a fact the space needs it right now, just grudgingly buy it and hold mild anger towards those that said it wasn't needed (sorry, in a mood). Unless (crosses fingers) this is meant as a way to test a new, functional system for the space approving purchases, if so:

Re: [SH-Discuss] The leased racks

2014-03-03 Thread Craig Bergdorf
it wasn't meant like that (didn't think of it like that until you mentioned it - thanks), I was just trying to ram home the point that the offer was not one made to take advantage of the space in their time of need for personal gain, but to help the space as much as possible, and at the time most d

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:05:08 Craig Bergdorf wrote: > or, if it's $200 and you know for a fact the space needs it right now, just > grudgingly buy it and hold mild anger towards those that said it wasn't > needed (sorry, in a mood). Unless (crosses fingers) this is meant as a way > to test a

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
My question is why no other options viable for hosting? Why MUST we use AWS? Why do we need 99.99 availability for 6 servers? Why could we not hybrid the design (like Craig said) and use some local hosting and some AWS? Hardware is cheap and easy to come by. Hosting our own allows us to have a TO

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
As far as reimbursement and membership credit I have submitted them. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > My question is why no other options viable for hosting? > > Why MUST we use AWS? Why do we need 99.99 availability for 6 servers? Why > could we not hybrid the design (li

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:27:50 Torrie Fischer wrote: > On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:05:08 Craig Bergdorf wrote: > > or, if it's $200 and you know for a fact the space needs it right now, > > just > > grudgingly buy it and hold mild anger towards those that said it wasn't > > needed (sorry, in a

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:31:51 Justin Herman wrote: > My question is why no other options viable for hosting? It isn't just about hosting our website. SYNHAK.org is a playground for people who want to build a hackerspace's online infrastructure. If you're against that, I'd be happy to ramp u

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 12:32:48 Justin Herman wrote: > As far as reimbursement and membership credit I have submitted them. *nod* Its in my backlog. > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > > My question is why no other options viable for hosting? > > > > Why MUST we use

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Craig Bergdorf
TWC is inherently bad in this region. Although a specific study has not yet been done at 48, I'll bet you a panda once the basement is built up a bit more and one is run it will fail. packet loss, inconsistent speeds, random outages, the whole deal. A single (especially docsis) connection to the

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 13:03:44 Craig Bergdorf wrote: > TWC is inherently bad in this region. Although a specific study has not > yet been done at 48, I'll bet you a panda once the basement is built up a > bit more and one is run it will fail. packet loss, inconsistent speeds, > random outages

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
SynHak.org needs to be multiple things. A "playground" maybe should not be what we use it for. I don't use the plumbing or electric as a "playground" they are infrastructure. They are constructs. Instead of asking why AWS is the best, I should have asked what are the goals? As far as physical sec

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
IDEA: It might be smart to talk to other hackerspaces and see if they would act as an encrypted backup for us if we do the same. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > SynHak.org needs to be multiple things. A "playground" maybe should not be > what we use it for. I don't use th

[SH-Discuss] Fw: [makersalliance] Job Openings at Linestream Technologies

2014-03-03 Thread Joe O'Donnell
I just want to point out to the group, that the product of Linestream Technologies is at the core of mechatronics, software based motor controllers: http://linestream.com/news/ http://linestream.com/for-motors/   Motor and motor controller improvements are the main factors that enabled the

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 13:24:14 Justin Herman wrote: > SynHak.org needs to be multiple things. A "playground" maybe should not be > what we use it for. I don't use the plumbing or electric as a "playground" > they are infrastructure. They are constructs. Oh ok. I'll stop listening then if thats

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal discussion: Associate Members

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
No discussion on a mechanism that has the potential to prevent future tension? This makes me sad :( On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:29:34 Torrie Fischer wrote: > I'd like to discuss the possibility of an additional class of members based > on the success I've seen of using it at Noisebridge. Rig

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
Torrie, I would appreciate it if you could refrain from treating me like I am attacking you. I am not your enemy. I see things differently than you BUT I respect your point of view. I expect that you do the same. You *don't* have to agree with me.* I expect you to "Be excellent to each other." *I

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Craig Bergdorf
Justin: linking to the collective via vpn has been on my todo list for 6 months now. I'm waiting on a discussion on our ISP. Considering it's available for little to none additional $/mo I would like to have native ipv6 and a dedicated ip for outside vpn connections if for no other reason than to

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Chris Egeland
On 3/3/2014 12:31 PM, Justin Herman wrote: > My question is why no other options viable for hosting? No one has said that there are no other viable options for hosting. > > Why MUST we use AWS? Why do we need 99.99 availability for 6 servers? > Why could we not hybrid the design (like Craig said)

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread alex kot
http://i.imgur.com/DvXWk.gif How about we just discuss this in person.  Get some ideas together and draw out a plan.  In all honesty we wanted to raise member fees so we can support the space.  How about we get more member and create less drama on the discuss thread and meetings.  Let's get so

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Justin Herman
I think Alex Idea is a GREAT one. I will bring documentation and pricing. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:33 PM, alex kot wrote: > http://i.imgur.com/DvXWk.gif > > How about we just discuss this in person. Get some ideas together and > draw out a plan. In all honesty we wanted to raise member fees

[SH-Discuss] [drama] Re: Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 14:15:15 Justin Herman wrote: > Torrie, > > I would appreciate it if you could refrain from treating me like I am > attacking you. It'd be super cool if you also stopped treating me like I'm acting irresponsibly with the space's money. I honestly have no idea why one wo

[SH-Discuss] [drama] Re: Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 14:16:14 Craig Bergdorf wrote: > Justin: linking to the collective via vpn has been on my todo list for 6 > months now. I'm waiting on a discussion on our ISP. Considering it's > available for little to none additional $/mo I would like to have native > ipv6 and a dedicat

[SH-Discuss] Equipment to donate

2014-03-03 Thread Carol Saniuk
I have inherited a garage full of tools, handyman items, old electrical items, screws, wood etc. I don't want to throw it out.can you find people who might need these items? Carol Saniuk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mai

Re: [SH-Discuss] [makersalliance] Job Openings at Linestream Technologies

2014-03-03 Thread Joe O'Donnell
 I just want to point out to the group, that the product of Linestream Technologies is at the core of mechatronics, software based motor controllers: http://linestream.com/news/ http://linestream.com/for-motors/   Motor and motor controller improvements are the main factors that enabled the

Re: [SH-Discuss] The Bucket System

2014-03-03 Thread a l
We could also implement a drawer based system similar to the Lehigh hackerspace http://hackaday.com/2013/03/19/hackerspace-intro-make-lehigh-valley/ On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Philip P. Patnode wrote: > FYI > > Any decent size restaurant or caterer uses and discards more than a few > round

Re: [SH-Discuss] [drama] Re: Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread a l
Thanks Chris for listing some of the logic behind our infrastructure. I think much of the frustration/confusion by the people who haven't built the IT comes from not knowing the reasoning behind why things are the way they are. I know there had been a short list of requirements before for what the

Re: [SH-Discuss] The leased racks

2014-03-03 Thread a l
I was under the apparently misinformed impression that this had been brought up as a proper proposal. This needs to be rectified posthaste. As Torrie brought up changes to the way SynHak operates need to be approved by member and/or board consensus.As Omar correctly brought up any legal agreement w

Re: [SH-Discuss] The Bucket System

2014-03-03 Thread Tomm Smith
I have began to contact manufacturing plants around the area to try and locate some totes. I have been keeping the dimensions general, with a specific trigger of a dimension of about 1'x1'x1 1/2'. I also had some ideas for "fantastic contraptions" that would allow for the storage totes to be store

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal discussion: Associate Members

2014-03-03 Thread a l
I didn't reply due to no concerns as the proposal is laid out here. I guess my question is: Why? Why does someone want to become an associate member? Are they allowed some small storage? They can't be a keyholder since that is a privilege of membership, so it wouldn't grant them additonal access to

[SH-Discuss] Things to tour in 2025 in Ohio

2014-03-03 Thread gs volt
http://www.ohiohistory.org/local-history-office/funding-opportunities/history-fund Apparently History Fund in Ohio is a thing I did not know about before. And my take home from it is - in time - visit all the recipients of the monies and check on their projects in person, well analog ones any way

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal discussion: Associate Members

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Monday, March 03, 2014 17:57:16 a l wrote: > I didn't reply due to no concerns as the proposal is laid out here. I guess > my question is: Why? Why does someone want to become an associate member? > Are they allowed some small storage? They can't be a keyholder since that > is a privilege of mem

Re: [SH-Discuss] [drama] Re: Proposal: Investing in synhak.org Infrastructure 2: Electric Boogaloo

2014-03-03 Thread a l
Follow up. I think its safe to say we all want to see SynHak succeed. We've all put time, money, and scraped knuckles into it. So let's do everyone a favor and stop questioning anyone's dedication. Regards, Andrew L ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synh

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal discussion: Associate Members

2014-03-03 Thread Tomm Smith
I agree with Torrie. I am not a member (yet) but am new to the community and in a situation where this would be a nice step to becoming a member. It would give the psych a certain feeling of acceptance to allow for new members to speak up a bit more and get to know the community better, quicker. Th

Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal discussion: Associate Members

2014-03-03 Thread Torrie Fischer
On Mar 3, 2014 9:29 PM, Tomm Smith wrote: > > I agree with Torrie. I am not a member (yet) but am new to the community and > in a situation where this would be a nice step to becoming a member. It would > give the psych a certain feeling of acceptance to allow for new members to > speak up a b

[SH-Discuss] Board meeting 3/9/2014 7pm.

2014-03-03 Thread degerovita
I would like to announce a board meeting to be held Monday March 9th 2014 at 7pm. The meeting will be held at the SYNHAK. The purpose will be to usher in the new board members and talk about our goals for the year. I have contacted a majority of the members, those I could not get a hold of, let

[SH-Discuss] Grant money

2014-03-03 Thread degerovita
Did anyone follow through with the Akron Community Foundation's list of press release material? http://akroncf.org/Nonprofits/FormsResources/PromoteYourGrant.aspx The URL was on our letter: http://i.imgur.com/l5Xnoq7.jpg If not I feel this should be priority number one, we need to show them we

Re: [SH-Discuss] [Board] Board meeting 3/9/2014 7pm.

2014-03-03 Thread gs volt
Correction: I think Devin meant 3/10 .. not 3/9 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:39 PM, wrote: > I would like to announce a board meeting to be held Monday March 9th 2014 > at 7pm. The meeting will be held at the SYNHAK. The purpose will be to > usher in the new board members and talk about our goals

Re: [SH-Discuss] [Board] Board meeting 3/10/2014 7pm.

2014-03-03 Thread degerov...@yahoo.com
Yes G, you are correct. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss