Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 1:32 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Some projects collect data using google analytics... https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html has more info on that. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Niall Pemberton
_ > > > From: Andrew Musselman > > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:33:40 AM > > > To: diversity@apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Diversity Information from iCLA? > > > > > > I get nervous when people talk about using data about

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Some projects collect data using google analytics, that may be useful, It’s also opt in and compliant with various privacy and data laws, but this does shows users rather than ASF. Github also have a lot of stats about contributors (many of which are like to be PMC/committers in the

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Matt Sicker
we have plenty of people who feel this is a good idea, but > > not one we feel is appropriate. > > > > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > > > > > From: Andrew Musselman > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Joan Touzet
is appropriate. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: Andrew Musselman Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:33:40 AM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: Diversity Information from iCLA? I get nervous when people talk about using data ab

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Ross Gardler
ct: Re: Diversity Information from iCLA? I get nervous when people talk about using data about me "for reasons" if I haven't agreed to it before submitting information. I suspect I'm not unusual in having that reaction; it could be risky just using info "about people" without aski

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Andrew Musselman
I get nervous when people talk about using data about me "for reasons" if I haven't agreed to it before submitting information. I suspect I'm not unusual in having that reaction; it could be risky just using info "about people" without asking for their consent. One rule of thumb for whether

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I would also be falsely guessed as American based on my ICLA information. Less confusing in my case than in some, because I am a native English speaker of European ancestry. On 5/16/2019 3:24 AM, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy wrote: It would be helpful to do the analysis, but I do think we should be

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-16 Thread Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
It would be helpful to do the analysis, but I do think we should be careful on this analysis to jump into conclusions too quickly. I moved to the USA from another country, and US address is given in the ICLA. That is true for a good number of my friends who started getting involved with open

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/15/2019 7:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Awasum, On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:42 PM Awasum Yannick wrote: ...If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA files without displaying

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Ross Gardler
of anything other than where they live. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: Awasum Yannick Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:31:05 AM To: diversity@apache.org Subject: Re: Diversity Information from iCLA? Hi Joan, On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:06 P

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Awasum Yannick
Hi Bertrand, On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:20 PM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Awasum, > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:42 PM Awasum Yannick wrote: > > ...If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical > distribution > > of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Awasum Yannick
Hi Joan, On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:06 PM Joan Touzet wrote: > Awasum, > > On 2019-05-15 9:42 a.m., Awasum Yannick wrote: > > > If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution > > of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA > > files without

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Awasum, On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:42 PM Awasum Yannick wrote: > ...If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution > of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA > files without displaying names of committers, just the countries... I

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Joan Touzet
Awasum, On 2019-05-15 9:42 a.m., Awasum Yannick wrote: If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA files without displaying names of committers, just the countries and we will know for sure

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Sam Ruby
I don't see an issue with sharing aggregate data. Every ASF member has access to the raw data, but extracting it will be labor intensive. - Sam Ruby On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 8:42 AM Awasum Yannick wrote: > > Hi Bertrand, > > If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Awasum Yannick
Hi Bertrand, If we really wanted to know the country/country/geographical distribution of our committers, the most reliable way to do it is to look at the iCLA files without displaying names of committers, just the countries and we will know for sure how geographically diverse we are. This will

Re: Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:17 AM Awasum Yannick wrote: > ...I was wondering if we could get country information for all Committers, > PMCs, Directors and Members and see if we can even draw some facts on > geographical distribution of our volunteers?... There's

Diversity Information from iCLA?

2019-05-15 Thread Awasum Yannick
Hi All, Reading the threads here as well as on ComDev, I see we have a need to understand the current diversity state of our committers. This is great and I support the survey initiative. I was wondering if we could get country information for all Committers, PMCs, Directors and Members and see